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    Composite blank for light surf

    Hi all,
    not so many sniffing around this site any more but wanted to ask a question anyway. I did a search for light surf blank and found one from 2013 but Iím not sure about the availability of some of the blanks these days Exel /PAC composite surf blanks. Iíve checked on MOT and done a general search but canít seem to find much information.

    Iím after a high quality light composite blank around 3.6m, 1 or 2 piece 4-6kg mono to use with new super light graphite AlveyÖ.bream, dart etc and maybe also be able to throw on unweighted pilly for bait spinning. Realistically that may have to be another build. Iíve built numerous heavier surf with FSU 4&5120 and have old glass MT4144 but Iíd really like to get a nice light strong composite blank. I see now on MOT that there are graphite versions of numerous MTs, so was thinking maybe a GMT4144 & 6144 but out of the loop now in terms of Livefibres and others. Lots of good tech these days although Australia has often had a pretty meagre selection of quality surf blanks to choose from.

    I can also see there are obviously major supply issues across many manufacturers & retailers resulting from Covid, overseas conflicts etc.Very frustrating

    thanks all for your input, Mike

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    Ausfish Platinum Member
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    Dec 2003
    Seaforth QLD & Cairns

    Re: Composite blank for light surf

    Ya right Mike, not that many here anymore, I can't help you with your questions, but I do miss the older days when there was a lot of 'chat' here about building personalised rods, was enough that I got keen to get in to it at one stage but moving around for work made it difficult then, now I've got a bit more time have contemplated having a shot.
    I remember Roz made a pearler once, had an image of a marlin on it if I recall correctly, was some time ago now. Keen to follow your progress if you do start a build.

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    Re: Composite blank for light surf

    Hi Corry, thanks so much for your reply. Youíre right, I remember when I first joined about 15 years ago and this site was humming. I remember Roz well, she was a keen builder but used to love Stuart's comments the most, he used to really crack me up with his probably unintentional but hilarious replies. His knowledge about all aspects of blank design and manufacture was unmatched. I remember one guy was talking about building an SU9177 with a huge Alvey for a beach stick and in Stuart's first comment, was you better get down to the gym because that rod will be like carrying a Besser block.

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    Re: Composite blank for light surf

    Hi Mikey. Its a completely different ball game to 10-15 years ago that's for sure - back when Snyder Glas and PC were still rolling blanks in Brisbane! Wilson has got Kilwell NZ to roll a few of the old Snyder blanks due to popular demand, i wont get into the arguments about old glass vs new glass but i have built and fished on a couple and they are beautiful blanks.

    Here's my take on it all.

    There are a few light surf composite blanks for bream, dart and surf flatties that would cast an unweighted pilly - i'll start from the lighter end and go up.

    Kilwell/Snyder HHGT - has a wrap of carbon in the butt for strength, lighter fibreglass tip/faster action compared to a MagBream
    Kilwell/Snyder MagBream - has carbon in the butt and a larger diameter butt for added power down low. A bit slower (more glass) in the tip for a more rounded curve but definitely has lifting power where you need it.
    Kilwell/Snyder CR3145C - this is the old GP3145 with a wrap of carbon in the butt. The all glass 3145 is a beautiful stick for 4-6kg with a nice parabolic curve. The carbon in the butt would increase the lifting power and potentially speed up the action (i havent got my hands on the composite one yet)
    Kilwell MT4144G - there are a few of these floating around but i am yet to get my hands on one. 4144s have a light tip and lock up in the top 1/3 of the blank. More suited to fishing off the rocks in my opinion but people swear by them for light surf. I prefer a deeper, more forgiving bend.

    FYI - in my opinion the new live fibre blanks are nothing on the old red ones. Avoid at all costs. If you can track down a red live fibre ZMT4144 (12') or ZCR4126 (10'6) these would be perfect for your needs I built a lot of the ZCR4126 blanks up for light surf when they were available. Try marketplace for New Old Stock blanks but be warned some blokes like to take the pi$$ with the old blanks.

    6144 are the perfect tailor rod which will handle a legal jew so i would think too heavy for your application.

    Where are you located? I am in Brisbane southside if you ever want to come pull on some blanks.


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