The Great Dingo debate.

[Lovey80]

A friend of mine that lived up Rainbow Beach way had a female staffy about 8 months old. She was in her first heat when a male dingo came calling. Chased it across the road into the bush and couldn’t be called back. She came back home several hours later with her white chest drenched in blood. Wouldn’t have thought a young staffy would react like that.

[tunaticer]

Using poisons like 1080 is very inefficient and the dogs do avoid the baits.
Some will die...maybe 10% of the population, 30% will recover having not injested a lethal dose....these survivors are the trainers of pups to avoid future baits.

Good trappers are overall the best strategy if they are given free reign.

Dogs and dingoes soon learn to avoid anything associated with gun shots....you get maybe two chances at a free roaming dog with a rifle until he learns you carry the gun.

Excessive hunting with guns creates a more wary target that will in most cases be almost impossible to shoot.

I have spent many years of vermin control on farms, including dogs and there is no other animal in Australia that learns faster and remembers longer than a dingo / wild dog.

The only other method than trapping that is highly effective is also highly illegal, but it's results are astounding....it does not discriminate what it kills....one lick and it is over before they can walk 20 metres or get airborne. Just as well not many people know of this.

[Dignity]

Using poisons like 1080 is very inefficient and the dogs do avoid the baits.
Some will die...maybe 10% of the population, 30% will recover having not injested a lethal dose....these survivors are the trainers of pups to avoid future baits.

Good trappers are overall the best strategy if they are given free reign.

Dogs and dingoes soon learn to avoid anything associated with gun shots....you get maybe two chances at a free roaming dog with a rifle until he learns you carry the gun.

Excessive hunting with guns creates a more wary target that will in most cases be almost impossible to shoot.

I have spent many years of vermin control on farms, including dogs and there is no other animal in Australia that learns faster and remembers longer than a dingo / wild dog.

The only other method than trapping that is highly effective is also highly illegal, but it's results are astounding....it does not discriminate what it kills....one lick and it is over before they can walk 20 metres or get airborne. Just as well not many people know of this.

Jack, you've probably sent everybody off on a googling exercise

[tunaticer]

Jack, you've probably sent everybody off on a googling exercise

I bet they have, they will not find anything much online though.
It has been removed from all uses now in Australia and most of the world.....it was once a very common commercial compound.
1cc would bait and kills hundreds of animals.

[Lovey80]

Using poisons like 1080 is very inefficient and the dogs do avoid the baits.
Some will die...maybe 10% of the population, 30% will recover having not injested a lethal dose....these survivors are the trainers of pups to avoid future baits.

Good trappers are overall the best strategy if they are given free reign.

Dogs and dingoes soon learn to avoid anything associated with gun shots....you get maybe two chances at a free roaming dog with a rifle until he learns you carry the gun.

Excessive hunting with guns creates a more wary target that will in most cases be almost impossible to shoot.

I have spent many years of vermin control on farms, including dogs and there is no other animal in Australia that learns faster and remembers longer than a dingo / wild dog.

The only other method than trapping that is highly effective is also highly illegal, but it's results are astounding....it does not discriminate what it kills....one lick and it is over before they can walk 20 metres or get airborne. Just as well not many people know of this.

i’d love to know his method too. Widespread use of silencers should be allowed for all hunters. Makes a huge difference especially with .22’s and sub sonic centre fire cartridges. For this reason and even safety purposes. Absolutely no good reason they’re restricted.

[shaungonemad]

i’d love to know his method too. Widespread use of silencers should be allowed for all hunters. Makes a huge difference especially with .22’s and sub sonic centre fire cartridges. For this reason and even safety purposes. Absolutely no good reason they’re restricted.

I’m guessing Strychnine.


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[tunaticer]

I’m guessing Strychnine.


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Dozens of times more potent than Strychnine.

[TheRealPoMo]

Dozens of times more potent than Strychnine.

West End Lager....I used to think XXXX was bad.

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[banshee]

Folodol (spelling)

[Dignity]

Dozens of times more potent than Strychnine.

And strychnine is still legal in some states e.g. WA

[woodchopper]

lucijet. very lethal.

[Lucky_Phill]

Updated thoughts from me and passed onto DES.

Unfortunately, I see the writing on the wall where visitor numbers to K’gari will be limited, partly in view of the Dingo situation, but mostly due to irresponsible driver behaviour and camping behaviour.

We all know the Dingoes on K’gari are not endemic to the island and also Dingoes are not a native animal. Contentious issue, yes, but just because they have been in Australia for about 5,000 years, does not make them native, like Kangaroos, Wombats and Koalas.

An option being discussed in my circles (frequent K’gari campers and visitors ) is to undertake a pro-active Dingo program in light if their “ contentious “ heritage and current problems.

We believe a program that would remove troublesome animals to a mainland zoo and the remaining ones contained within a large protected area on K’gari, aka , Information and interaction centre. Yes, like a zoo, but specifically for Fraser Island Dingoes.

This way the “ island “ dingoes can keep their subjective “ endemic “ status, you can educate the public, charge an admission fee ( or donation system ) , undertake a breeding program that can fulfil mainland zoo quotas, overall create a much safer environment for island visitors and lastly and quite important, give the islands native and truly endemic wildlife a chance to recover and or live in peace.

The Rangers on the island do a great job, but being minders for irresponsible people and Dingo wranglers should not come under their jop description.

It seems to all of us that Government policies are made reactive, rather than pro-active and are forever trying to shut the gate after the horse has bolted. Maybe it is time to round up the herd, shut the gate , protect the encompassing problem and provide sustainable outcomes for all stakeholders that share K'gari

LP

[gunna]

You just need the latest and greatest in dingo detterent methodology

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-...acks/104271336