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    FISHING spots for Redland anglers have been extended after more than 224 concrete reef balls were tipped into waters off Peel and Coochiemudlo islands today.



    A Stradbroke Ferries barge spent all day loading, transporting and then dropping the balls in to waters about 3Nm west of Peel Island and at the East Coochie Reef.
    There are 11 reef ball clusters to the north-west of Peel Island and seven clusters off Coochiemudlo’s eastern shores.


    A large crane hoisted the 600kg balls off the barge deck before they were lowered 14.5m into the water to settle on the seabed.


    Today’s operation was to top-up Peel Island's existing reef with 128 extra concrete balls and add 96 to Coochie reef's existing 78 balls.


    There are four other artificial reefs in the Moreton Bay Marine Park.


    The North Moreton Artificial Reef, built in 2011, is about 3Nm off the northern tip of Moreton Island and was made of 25 fish boxes at a depth of 14m and is deep enough for spearfishermen.


    Others are at Wild Banks, about 12Nm east of Bribie Island; the Harry Atkinson Artificial Reef, about 12Nm west of Amity Point and the South Stradbroke Artificial Reef, made of 20 concrete cubes covering 208ha at 23m to attract reef and larger pelagic fish.




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    Re: Reef Ball updates. MBMP

    I still reckon they should have whacked a string of arties in 8-10m of water about 2.5-3km out off Shorncliffe to Redcliffe to Skirmish point. Even if they are only 1 reef ball wide and 30 metres apart, they will become fish highways and refuges for bait. would also act as a permanent underwater fence to keep the trawlers away from the coast.
    Jack.

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    Re: Reef Ball updates. MBMP

    Yes Jack.

    We have not stopped in our efforts to get more artis underway.

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    Re: Reef Ball updates. MBMP

    Have they released the gps marks for the new balls yet?

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    Re: Reef Ball updates. MBMP

    Quote Originally Posted by Triple View Post
    Have they released the gps marks for the new balls yet?
    I can't find the co-ords on the website, but the Redland Times nedwspaper will have them in Fridays edition.

    I'll get onto DAFF.
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    Re: Reef Ball updates. MBMP

    Phill....where is the South Stradbroke Artificial Reef, made of 20 concrete cubes covering 208ha at 23m to attract reef and larger pelagic fish ?

    Thanks, Ray.

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    Re: Reef Ball updates. MBMP

    All information is here:-

    http://www.nprsr.qld.gov.au/parks/mo...f_program.html

    click on the South Stradbroke PDF for gps co-ords

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    Lightbulb Re: Reef Ball updates. MBMP

    is a reefball an economic or limiting factor...??...due to unit cost to deploy?
    or an 'industry green solution'....??.. i.e. precluding cheaper solutions

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    Re: Reef Ball updates. MBMP

    Quote Originally Posted by Gazza View Post
    is a reefball an economic or limiting factor...??...due to unit cost to deploy?
    or an 'industry green solution'....??.. i.e. precluding cheaper solutions
    Sorry Gazza, no idea what you asked.

    I'll have a crack at it though.

    Reefballs ( specific marine concrete blend ) are primairly used in shallow waters. They are inexpensive to produce.

    The major economic factor in all artificial reefs programs is " deployment ".

    An industry green solution is to utilise " materials of opportunity "... ie:- existing suitable materials that are donated by landbased industry.

    The most expensive artie's are " ships "....... which in our working group discovered gets you bugger all " bang for buck ".

    The ultimate material is bare steel due to it's ability to attract plant life in a very short space of time.

    Purpose built steel structures offer the best practice solution to deep waters.

    At all times many factors contribute to the artificial reef design, construction, materials and deployment. There is also a mountain of Government ( Federal and State and Local Council ) RED TAPE to get around, over and through.

    Hope that helps ?????

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    Re: Reef Ball updates. MBMP

    Quote Originally Posted by tunaticer View Post
    I still reckon they should have whacked a string of arties in 8-10m of water about 2.5-3km out off Shorncliffe to Redcliffe to Skirmish point. Even if they are only 1 reef ball wide and 30 metres apart, they will become fish highways and refuges for bait. would also act as a permanent underwater fence to keep the trawlers away from the coast.
    More southern bay shallow artis (which is good), but what about the off Redcliffe? We lost fishing spots to green zones too.

    Perhaps the State member for Redcliffe could stick up for us.

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    Re: Reef Ball updates. MBMP

    Artificial Reefs do not necessarily have to be deployed in open water.

    Things like Hervey Bays Urangan Peir are actually artificial reefs and so could be other " groins / rock walls ", that have their start on land and protrude into the briny.

    The pipeline traversing the Seaway is also an Arti.

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    Re: Reef Ball updates. MBMP

    Hi Phill,

    As an interested onlooker from much further north, how did you start this project? Any tips?

    Thanks mate,

    Nick.

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    Re: Reef Ball updates. MBMP

    Nick,

    This project, IMO, was started and undertaken due to a couple of reasons.

    First and only quantifiable one, being the then Labor Government were coping a flogging from the Rec Fishing industry in response to their Moreton Bay Marine Park Zoning fiasco.

    After protests by Rec Fishing Groups and losing a couple of seats and a minister, someone ( unknown which specific person ) promoted the idea of " dispersing recreational fishing presure " due to closures in relation to Green Zones, implimented within the MBMP.

    The Government, through DERM sought out stakeholders, formed a working group and were allocated funds, initially $1 mill with NONE of those funds going to Government to " manage " the project. $1mill is pittance and that amount grew to $2 mill, but the Government syphoned off 10% for " management fees ".

    The ship, Tiwi Pearl , cost nealry 200,000 smackers to drop into the bay, hence my sugestion that wrecks do not give us bang for buck as they need specific depths, deployment methods, cleaning etc and only cover a small seabed area. Probably good for divers, but that's it.

    The Current Government have stashed $50 mill as part of the Marine Infrastructure Program and is earmarked for recreational activities / projects / programs. These funds are sitting there, waiting to be distributed to those that ask for them. There is criteria to be met and unfortunately, there is no organisation willing to or qualified, to submit a proposal to get funding for Artificial Reefs in Queensland.

    Nick, if you'd like to get a hold of funding, I suggest you meet ( not email, call etc ), meet.... with your local LNP member and ask them the criteria needed to access this funding.

    Tell them all management, design, construction and deployment data is established and at hand and you only need dollars.

    Let's not forget we need part of that funding to be set aside for monitoring of all the artie's.

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    Re: Reef Ball updates. MBMP

    Hi phil
    Thanks for your very informative posts - much appreciated. Do you know where there are publicly available gps marks for the tiwi pearl? Are there any other largish ships that have been sunk as artis that are also publicly known?
    Cheers phil.

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    Re: Reef Ball updates. MBMP

    The link in post number 2 ( http://www.nprsr.qld.gov.au/parks/mo...f_program.html ) should have the marks, although I haven't checked, but Tiwi Pearl location is public record.

    There are many wreck sites and most are public record.

    Maybe in the " notice to mariners " Qld.... MSQ site. ????

    Dive websites also have lots of listings for wrecks.

    I also think if you do an " advanced Search " here on Ausfish, this subject may have been covered and data posted up.

    Advanced Search icon at top right hand side of pages.

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