I was just stating how well and easy would a 4x4 have to be. To be able to tow another car through nagala.
I get your point on that matter andy. Never said they cant do fraser! Beach driving is a peace of piss... And I have seen a few normal cars up the beach before aswell. Only sometimes do the conditions on fraser change, mostly deep water crossings. And nagala upto the lighthouse. I wish I still had photo's of eli creek when it came halfway up my windscreen and my bullbar was chin level. Or a few years ago when all the sand was gone and it was a hell fun suspension crawl from nagala on. I even had to use my winch to get back up the 3 metre drop off.
Like others have said "My 4x4 can take me anywhere I want to go on fraser" Fair call. Fraser is only hard if you go looking for the hard bits. Most of the time.
But when people start saying "ahh fraser, strad and moreton is easy as. My little feroza or what ever kills it and can go everywhere on the island" Thats when I think they need to give these places a little bit more respect, because I have seen it (and im sure alot of other here) many times where they would be turning around and going home with their tails between their legs, or just restricted on where they can go because they just cant make it.
There are tonnes of tracks on stradbroke only a handful of 4x4's can do... Maybe we should go there.
You start saying ive seen a patrol bogged to its axles and the little 4x4's go right past it. Yeah, I see it all the time aswell. But tyres, power and gearing. Is all it needs to go way better than the little 4x4's. When it has those things then I would say patrol and cruiser all the way on the beach. But until then (given that the littles 4x4's can handle deep water or suspension hills) Id say the little 4x4's just have the overall advantage.
Here is some vids of a cheap 80 with an old carbie 5 litre in it. Having some fun.