Johno 110HP startup

[Splash]

HI Team.

110 1989 Johnson - took it out to boat ramp just before for a spin.

It woudl not start - checked everything etc.. beofre journey to ramp (about 30mins.

Woudl not start.

tried and tried, waited for fuel to settle, etc - stil not start.

give up and go home.

i go to flush motor - and starts first thing...

What gives ?????

Obviously a fuel problem..

what should be my starting procedure - what do I do if this happens again at boat ramp?

Splash

[mako101]

Did it turn over a the ramp or nothing?....kill switch.....choke.

My routine is always the same with my old johnno, pump a few times, kill switch off, lift lever beside throttle to give a bit of extra fuel for warm up, push in key for choke and starts every time.
Kill switches can be temperamental???.
Otherwise could be loose or corroded battery terminals.

[hoga]

had somthing simmilar it was eiectrical next time check spark mine done it 4 2 years be4 we found wat it was

[Splash]

not turn over ramp - not one iota.

WHen u say "pump few times" - pump what?

Baterry is brand new.

Ho wto check spark whilst at ramp?

Splash

[mako101]

If nothing at all, first check battery connections and kill switch, pumping petrol won`t make any difference.
I meant pump fuel line but it won`t be a fuel problem if it isn`t turning over.
Probably a simple solution, could be electrical but usually it`s battery or kill switch, I am guessing battery terminals or connection issues.

[Splash]

for kill switch - do i simply disconnect and re-connect?

[Noelm]

OK, lets do this from the very beginning, first off lets assume that the battery is good and there is fuel in the tank, the choke works, the motor is in the water and the water pump inlet is covered, so here we go, pump primer bulb untill it is firm/hard, lift warm up lever about 3/4 or so, push in key (to activate choke) turn over motor while holding in the key, when it fires, release the key and adjust warm up so it does not "rev it's head off", you may need to reactivate the choke if it seems it may cut out, I don't think the 110HP had a "cut out" emergency lanyard system

[Roughasguts]

Hi Splash, So hows your battery leads ? might be time to put some new ones on it, may be the wires are going green wicking and turning to dust.

Or at least take the clamps off the battery and clean the clamps with a battery post terminal wire brush ( 5 bucks super cheap every boat should have it on board) Emery paper rolled up and turned inside the clamp will also clean the contacts up. I do this every time I re- conect the battery which is every trip.

[Noelm]

I think I read it that it all turns over OK, but does not start, if you reread it! so I THINK the battery and so on are OK, it just does not start, but it did when he got it home from the ramp.

[honda900]

Splash,

NoelM's reply is pretty much on the money, just with my 87 johno (may be different),

where you stick the key in the forward control box is a choke, however mine required that you depress it a few times as it squirts fuel into the carbies.

I could be wrong but that worked for me took me a little while to work out the same problem.

Regards
Honda

[Splash]

Thanks guys.

I do recall doign all those steps and in that order - at ramp.

Yes - it does have a lanyard.

Terminals are clean, battery is 2 months old.

Outboard is started every weekend at home - first up without a hitch.

I wonder why it started carrying out a those steps at hoome but no start at ramp...?

Splash

[hoga]

i checked the spark with a timing light mine would only do it every now & then it tturnd out to be asolder jont in stator i think

[FNQCairns]

Just a hickup?

Possibly for whatever reason (plugs oiled form last muff job, old-ish unleaded in carb bowls) you ended up flooding it, if it continues consider decreasing the plug gap to the minimum stated in the specifications for your engine.

Also engines start easier on muffs due to less back pressure, if you have the problem at the ramp again (I assume you have already tried to start it and in the process the pump has pumped water) pull it back up on the trailer out of the water and try to start it till it kicks and even catches for half a second then back it back down and try again.

Tilting the engine up to somewhere near shallow drive (when in water) can help also.

SENSIBLE use of an ether spray like 'start you bastard' does no harm either, it's only a fraction of the inducted charge, a little goes a long way.

cheers fnq

[Hagar]

Splash

Sounds like the battery is not the problem . Try this next time it does it .

With the key still at start if it does not crank jiggle the throttle around the neutral position to exercise the switch and see if it starts .

If still nothing keep the key at start and move the clip on the kill switch lanyard to pull the switch plunger further out and see if it starts .

If either of these make it start - take it to a marine mechanic and explain .

Chris

[Splash]

Many thanks boys...

Seems liek it could be a multitude of things...

I luv my Johno!

Splash