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Fisheries Queensland
23-01-2013, 10:54 AM
Queensland crabbers are being cautioned to stick to the rules this summer after two recreational fishers were fined more than $2000 for interfering with commercial crab pots.

Queensland Boating and Fisheries Patrol (QBFP) acting district officer Chris Watts said crab pot interference and other illegal crabbing practices were major compliance issues for the patrol.

“After witnessing the recreational crabbers interfering with his pots, the Cabbage Tree Point commercial crabber, assisted by the Redland Bay Water Police, confronted the two men,” said Mr Watts.

“On inspection, the recreational crabbers were found to be in possession of an esky half full of mud crabs, illegally taken from the commercial crabber’s pots.

“The recreational crabbers were each fined $1100 for unlawfully interfering with commercial crab apparatus and the crabs were returned to the owner.”

Compliance agencies such as QBFP, Water Police and Maritime Safety Queensland often work together to ensure effective monitoring of all areas.

“We’ve got large areas to patrol and teamwork from all agencies certainly makes the job easier,” said Mr Watts.

To combat the rising reports of crab pot interference and other illegal crabbing activities, QBFP has increased the number of patrols across the state.

“With the apparent recent increase in illegal crabbing activities, it’s obvious that some recreational fishers are just not getting the message,” said Mr Watts.

“Interfering with crabbing apparatus that are not your own is a serious offence and you will be caught.

“It’s un-Australian, significantly impacts the livelihoods of our commercial crabbers and threatens the economic viability of Queensland’s commercial crabbing industry.

“Those caught doing the wrong thing risk an on-the-spot fine of $1100—that’s a lot more expensive than the cost of buying a mud crab from your local seafood store.”

QBFP rely on the support of the public to help protect our fishing resources for future generations.

“People who suspect illegal crabbing are urged to do the right thing and report it to the Fishwatch hotline on 1800 017 116.”

The Queensland Recreational Boating and Fishing Guide contains the fishing rules and is readily available online at www.fisheries.qld.gov.au (http://www.fisheries.qld.gov.au) or by calling 13 25 23.

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Moonlighter
23-01-2013, 12:49 PM
Fisheries Qld:

It would have been good for you to reinforce the fact that rec or pros interfering with other recreational anglers crab pots is just as serious an offence.

Otherwise you risk the perception that you are looking after the pro's interests, and not rec interests as well.

The tone of your report was all about rec interfering with pros, where thats only one part of the story. There are far too many "share farmers" out there who have no compunction about checking other peoples pots, and they dont care if the owners are pro or rec. They are just scumbags, and many of us rec guys suspect that other rec anglers are not the only culprits!

lethal098
23-01-2013, 12:52 PM
I have personally seen a Pro Crabber doing the same to a Recreational Pot, There are good and bad pros and reccos out there thats for sure,

BUT Its simple, IF ITS NOT YOURS DONT TOUCH IT!!!!

Tailortaker
23-01-2013, 03:13 PM
Shouldn't the tittle read " Crab theives warned: you will be caught"? Remember, not all crabbers raid others pots......

tunaticer
23-01-2013, 05:08 PM
This story is too biased to be of any credibility. There needs to be representation from both rec and pro sectors in protecting their pots and catches alike.

I think the fisheries should plant bait pots with video survielance equipment nearby to nab these bastards and move them around continually. Every 24 hours come and process the images and send out the fines. I am sure it will more than cover the expenses and their wages. Just use a generic float, some telstra rope and cheap bcf pots, with or without bait (be sure they are tagged correctly though!!).

Horse
24-01-2013, 05:44 AM
I can't believe they got away with an $1100 fine for stealing 1/2 an esky full of Crabs (depending on the esky this could be almost $1000 worth of Muddys). Watching their car and boat get crushed would have been a major warning to like minded scum.
Fisheries are not interested in catching these ferals. As Tunaticer pointed out its not hard to set up cameras to catch the theives. That combined with microchipping some Crabs inside pots would make them think twice. Seize their boat afterwards and we are well on our way to a solution

Feral
24-01-2013, 06:11 AM
Warned, yeah right, I reckon I could head out on the bay and spend 6 months raiding crab pots and never be trouble by a fisheries patrol.

You reckon they would have caught the bloke if the owner hadn't seen what was going on and called them?

Get real. Thieving mongrels do what they like and we all know it.

IRMC000
24-01-2013, 11:54 AM
Great Idea Tunaticer - sound argument - What about it Fisheries?



This story is too biased to be of any credibility. There needs to be representation from both rec and pro sectors in protecting their pots and catches alike.

I think the fisheries should plant bait pots with video survielance equipment nearby to nab these bastards and move them around continually. Every 24 hours come and process the images and send out the fines. I am sure it will more than cover the expenses and their wages. Just use a generic float, some telstra rope and cheap bcf pots, with or without bait (be sure they are tagged correctly though!!).

solaris
24-01-2013, 06:39 PM
You know when a pro crabber has been through you pots because your pot will be left open with the bait removed, I had this happen to me on several occasions down the Gold Coast and finally one morning caught the culprit, unfortunately the 25 on my tinny could not keep up or catch his.

His day will come

QuinTin
25-01-2013, 06:53 PM
hmm who do we fine for touching/stealing our pots thanks for the post don't think we need to be warned like 2 year olds here

“Interfering with crabbing apparatus that are not your own is a serious offence and you will be caught.

PS. LOL when ya fine my pots stolen over the years can you return them please because the tag i put on them will still be their when you fined them yea right Thank you MR Fisheries

rosco1974
25-01-2013, 07:45 PM
funny how the fisheries point the finger at rec crabbers,i know a few pro crabbers in the bay who wont go past the brissy river as the pro crabbers around green ,wello and cleveland have such a bad rep for pulling anyones pot its not worth them crabbing these areas yet us rec crabbers have to get the warnings.bloody joke...then you get the so called semi pros who hammer any float in sight and get away with it.there are a few semi pro's who spring to mind with atleast 30 pots in the bay yet get away with it...really pisses me off.one uses a beam trawler numbers which has a crabbin quota but can only do use 1 fishing liecence at a time yet still trawls and the other bloke crabs at the same time....buggered if i know how this works but i really sucks....maybe police it properly fisheries and catch the real sharefarmers...no good having all the gear and no idea time to step up .pissed off rec crabber here
cheers rosco

BigE
28-01-2013, 08:59 AM
Sounds like were getting close to a good old fashion car burning at the ramp....... always entertainting if you haven't seen one before, most (but not all) theives get the message first time round , very cost effective.

BigE

Fallen angel
28-01-2013, 08:20 PM
Good to see them get caught....

There have a few commercial operators caught up north for the same thing, there would have to be about 8-10 cameras being used around the hinchinbrook area. As stated above good and bad on both sides.

I understand the frustration of many people on this issue, been there had this done to me to many times.

However retribution is sweet

manta man
03-02-2013, 08:58 AM
Wondering if i can get the same assistance at the the of a hat. what a f.....g joke.

Bruce William Davis
05-02-2013, 09:10 PM
I put my expensive pop up pots not far from the Maroom Hole where there was a lot of pro pots. But I kept well away from theirs only to come back next morning to find one pot missing and the other five all slashed. What right do they have to do that. Just scumbags.

hungry6
06-02-2013, 04:13 PM
I can say in the pumicestone passage, crab and pots thieves are rampants. I have witness the low life, reported it, nothing has been done, and I guess will never be done.
So coming here with a half arse warning is ludicrous.
A better way is to sign post boat ramps and be on the water.

WalrusLike
06-02-2013, 04:59 PM
I agree with you Hungry except please don't waste money on signs... spend that money on enforcing the law, they all know it anyway.

Besides... there's way too many signs already.

netmaker
06-02-2013, 06:32 PM
i have 2 sets of pots. 1 set of those nice pop up pots that bruce mentioned which i will take out for a day (and keep a reasonably good eye on) and a second set of those "4 for $55" pots (still made by crabbin gear at clontarf and way better than those bcf knock offs) that i run the gauntlet with and leave out overnight. the pain in the ass is not being able to take them all out at once which seems a little weird when you consider i can travel across green zones with my gear stowed. so i can be trusted to not fish in a green zone (despite the fact i am carrying fishing gear) but i cannot be trusted to only have 4 pots in the water at the one time.

wags on the water
15-02-2013, 11:24 AM
How simple is this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQh3sr5bQQg

tunaticer
15-02-2013, 02:46 PM
A good video but it falls short of some other vital bits of information that could see you in trouble.
Baits must be legal, either legal size or unregulated.
Depending on the species used as bait, it can add to your in possession bag limits even if they are fish frames. I specifically asked the question to DPI about keeping whiting frames for crab bait....they stated it was illegal to exceed the bag limit even with the frames.

No mention of three spot crabs or spanner crabs as well or the spanner crab closed season.

I think fisheries should have videos playing at all bait and tackle shops and above the bait freezer at all servos. It is their responsibility to make the information available I think.

Gazza
15-02-2013, 03:39 PM
Time 4 Jennies to be allowed 2 be kept by "RecFishos ONLY , never pros in QLD" .... 2 x 17cms.+
sounds fair 2 me....

Linedropper
15-02-2013, 03:52 PM
Thanks for the video. I was wondering what a QLD Fisheries officer looked like because I've never seen one!

tunaticer
15-02-2013, 05:51 PM
Nah Gazza, It will just be another grey area people will exploit to take a bit more home.
We don't need to feed the less desirables with a loophole that might give them some leniency.
Leave the law stand and enforce it better.
Removal of the share farmers and pot thieves will do massive amounts of good to the crab fishery.
If they are raiding your pots the chances are they are talking all sizes and sexes.

marto78
15-02-2013, 07:03 PM
How simple is this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQh3sr5bQQg


I noticed his crab measurer was 3mm over size :o:o:o

mort
15-02-2013, 07:22 PM
yeah bloody pro crabbers
I know they like to slash rec crabbers pots and thats coming from the horses mouth
I had 7 pots stolen from ningy creek just recently.
step up fisheries and do your bloody job before i catch the pros responsible!!!!!!!!

rosco1974
17-02-2013, 08:19 PM
its amazing 25 posts on this topic and no responce from the fisheries,
cheers rosco

Horse
17-02-2013, 09:49 PM
I can't see why they dont set up some simple camers surveilance on a few pots left out overnight. Catch a couple of the mongrel bastards , crush their boats on the evening news and hit them with a fine.

rosco1974
17-02-2013, 11:21 PM
i hear ya niel be good actually seeing these buggers on the water doing what there spose to and try an sort outthis whole sharefarming/pot pinching what is rampant at the moment

Gazza
20-02-2013, 03:34 PM
Nah Gazza, It will just be another grey area people will exploit to take a bit more home.
We don't need to feed the less desirables with a loophole that might give them some leniency.
Leave the law stand and enforce it better.
Removal of the share farmers and pot thieves will do massive amounts of good to the crab fishery.
If they are raiding your pots the chances are they are talking all sizes and sexes.Nahhh m8 , totally over being "penalised" for loser-X % Feral Activity......(in all facets of life) :'(

K.I.S.S. ....2 max. 17cms Jennies "allowed" L.E.G.A.L.L.Y , i.e. 10m-0jens,9m-1jen,....8bucks & 2 JENS... "allowed"
or Xceed limits & ALL your Relatives will be "shot" , and a $10billion fine.... ::)...... and 2hrs community service... :-X
p.s. don't freakout....NOTHING CHANGES UNDER THE QUEENSLAND LNP...j.m.o.