Hydrive installation - not off to a good start

[Crunchy]

Installation manual states "you have been provided with two large spacers and two small ones....."

Apparently this is no longer correct, you get 3 small spacers and 1 large spacer....

[captain rednut]

hey crunchy
Ive been fitting hydrive 25 years and they have always only ever come with 1x large spacer and 3x small ones which will fit any outboard, the adjusting nuts supplied will accommodate the system to be centered, Ive never required 2x large spacers to center a bullhorn, normally only the one large spacer is used only. and whilst your fitting it over the weekend and need to talk to someone to answer any queries please call me Jim 0418748023

[Tracker]

SPOT ON. It also helps to have a few extra hands when filling and bleeding,and follow the instructions to the letter.The hydrive is a good system when setup correctly.

hey crunchy
Ive been fitting hydrive 25 years and they have always only ever come with 1x large spacer and 3x small ones which will fit any outboard, the adjusting nuts supplied will accommodate the system to be centered, Ive never required 2x large spacers to center a bullhorn, normally only the one large spacer is used only. and whilst your fitting it over the weekend and need to talk to someone to answer any queries please call me Jim 0418748023

[tenzing]

hey crunchy
Ive been fitting hydrive 25 years and they have always only ever come with 1x large spacer and 3x small ones which will fit any outboard, the adjusting nuts supplied will accommodate the system to be centered, Ive never required 2x large spacers to center a bullhorn, normally only the one large spacer is used only. and whilst your fitting it over the weekend and need to talk to someone to answer any queries please call me Jim 0418748023

OUTSTANDING reply.
Wish I could deal with some people like you during my work day Jim. Good on ya
Cheers
Brendan

[Crunchy]

Thanks guys, you're right Captain R. It doesn't look like I'm going to need it, I feel a bit bad about my vent last night, was just disappointed at the time of opening my new present! However their instruction manual is 10 years old and in need of an update.

My biggest drama today was locating loctite primer T.....not kidding 8 different shops. So I got the bullhorn on, the hoses run, the fillings locktited into the helm and cylinder, the helm holes drilled and old holes filled, tomorrow I connect it all up and do the bleed thingy.

I do have a question....

The T fittings into the cylinder only went in about 2 1/2 turns.....I only did it by hand as they got real tight quickly and the instructions say over and over "don't over tighten". I just hope it's enough as it doesn't seem right?

Cheers C

Ps I think hooking up the tillers is going to be a bit of a pain, would you normally use the tiller hole with the plug in it? How does that plug come out....




One question

[captain rednut]

hi
Loctite primer is not necessary if it it a new system which it is, and i agree the manuals are defiantly old and require updating to avoid these problems occurring. The bleeder T pieces procedure is wind in until firm and then continue one more full turn until they are at the required position using the green loctite provided . The reason the manual states information which is encouraging people to perform installation lightly is because some people only have a big hammer and a 2 foot long set of stilsens in there garage so you could imagine what i have seen, brand new cylinders stripped threads and bent shafts and the best one that we see regularly is when people remove there steering wheel they get there mate to pull on the wheel whilst the other one belts it repeatably with a hammer damaging the alloy thread and bending the shaft again making the helm unit unrepairable. again crunchy ring me if you require assistance even on a Sunday.
regards Jim

[johncar]

the best one that we see regularly is when people remove there steering wheel they get there mate to pull on the wheel whilst the other one belts it repeatably with a hammer damaging the alloy thread and bending the shaft again making the helm unit unrepairable. again crunchy ring me if you require assistance even on a Sunday.
regards Jim

Yes this is a sore point so often I find a helm steering wheel nut that seems like it was tightened by Hercules himself and hence wheel siezed on. Please only tighten these enough to stop any freeplay on the shaft and that's all. A light smear of anti sieze or good marine grease on the shaft and it should always come off without having to damage it.

[Fed]

After a quarter of a century I thought mine would be tight but luckily it had a hub and a ball joint puller made short work of it.
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[Spaniard_King]

4" grinder is pretty quick too

[Crunchy]

Yep already had the grinder out, to get the old cable out somehow..also had to hacksaw the steering wheel off but have managed to recycle it now.

Garry did you get my PM? I wanted an expert to do this for me!

I have a bad feeling that I haven't screwed the t-fittings in far enough....time will tell....

I couldn't finish the job today as the tiller arms bind and I cannot get full turn in one direction, I think that anyone fitting a yammy 90A 2st will have the same issues...the shape of the motor tiller coneector is such that the flat bar tiller of the cylinder cannot move through the full range. I will have to take both the motor tiller connecter thingy ( that's the correct technical term I believe) and the tiller arm that came with the unit to work and ask the engineer to do some mods.

So, that's super strong locktight right, but I may have to redo the t-fittings....can they be undone?

PS C.R I do wish I'd rung ya when doing up the t-fittings!

[Spaniard_King]

Yeh Just went back and found it... 2 weeks behind in my work so it may not have been suitable and I would have talked ya out of hydrive

[Crunchy]

Slack prick (kidding) yeh I started out wanting to go seastar but the hole in my dash was exactly the right size for the hydrive helm so that clinched it....and the fact I was able to call them with a few questions...much of a muchness I reckon....

[LittleSkipper]

Yeh Just went back and found it... 2 weeks behind in my work so it may not have been suitable and I would have talked ya out of hydrive

What brand of system do you recommend Garry?

[Spaniard_King]

For reliability and strength and a unit where the hoses do not move with the ram you cant go past the Hynautic K6 system.

[Fed]

2 1/2 turns doesn't seem right to me Crunchy, I'd be asking the manufacturers if no one else here can add some input. Are you sure you didn't cross thread them, easy to do with a fine tapered thread?