Yammy four stroke starter motors

[Noelm]

yep, thats can work, it will wriggle the last bit of brush to maybe make just enough contact for one start, brushes in a boat starter should almost never wear out, even taxis would almost never wear them out, but as Murph stated, maybe it is just a sign of the times.

[marto78]

All I can say is you should have bought an Etec, they dont have problems with starter motors

[ShaneC]

Ha onya Marto... Might set her up with a single 300 etec. No dramas then, if the starter plays up I could get my 8 year old to pull start it. I did give it a tappin but I thought it was a power issue so didn't pursue it too much. All good now. Noel, brushes on both motors were significantly worn, I know it shouldn't happen but at least I know about it now and ill get them done every 12 months as a matter of course because the failure cost me a lot more than the price of the repair....

[CATchin'Em]

Have twin engines both installed brand new. one died whilst out at sea. got engine going (pull start and not easy on a 100hp four stroke but got it going without any real fuss). I removed both. The one that had failed had stator damage no magnet loose or anything like that and we found that the grease used in assembly has no where to go but pool up in bottom combine this with all the brush filings and you get grinding paste basically. the other starter had slighty less assembly grease used but the brushes where were just about non existant. (my motors would get started 30 -40 times every fortnight(about one trip per fornight)) I believe they had a good life and am not dissapointed or annoyed that they failed. I know how many times I turned that key in that time. I know if I started my car that many times it'd probably die too. I know I start my boat a lot of every trip. I will keep count when I go out in 2 days time. I would say that if you are like me and drive around the ocean moving constantly, drift fishing etc. THey have probably reached their service life and need replacing anyway that is my view on the whole thing. JUST REALLY ANNOYING YAMAHA PARTs ARE SO EXPENSIVE. I keep looking for gold in the parts but I can't find any.

[Giffo65]

Ahh I just use my boat lots put 1100 hours 7years on my engines before starter failure.

My Yammy has over the 1000hr mark before starter failure as well,at least I can pull start the 60 four banger with no worries !

[Noelm]

don't think it is how much you have used your Yamahas, I still say they are made cheaper, there is lots of pro boats (other brands) that get started 50 times a day and the starters are still working just fine, but as mentioned, it is not a deal breaker, but more something you should have checked at maybe every second service or something. Never heard of a Taxi having a starter repaired every year ever!

[ozscott]

...slip it in Noel..


Your point is probably well made though. You literally would never hear of any issues with the older ones. I suppose everything gets rationalised by companies now - trade off between reliability and the dollar and what people are prepared to pay at the outset. I still think these (pretty minor) problems dont make much of a dent in the brand. Its still right at up there in terms of reputation and commercial use.

Cheers

[Noelm]

yep, fully agree, I am not saying I dont like Yamaha, or think they are crap, but everything these days seems to have a price attached to it, and to cheapen an item like a starter so it requires routine service just seems to be a little too price oriented. (if you get what I mean)