Maiden Voyage - Complete Fizzer!

[Splash]

I took my Polycraft 4.1m out for the very first time today - yellow waters kakadu national park.

Huge disappointment with the brand new 2012 yami 60hp motor!

It started first up, and about 2 mins into the journey - stop.

I tried and tried again, checked for fuel and waited 30 mins a few times before starting again to ensue flooding did not occur.

We had to row back around 1km back to ramp and then go home.

We try again to start it and nothing.

Yes, the battery is fully charged and yes i have clean fuel.

I lift the cowling and observe around 1.5cm of oil in the fuel filter.

I did not hear or observe any overheating alarm.

Why is there so little oil inside this filter???

The motor may now be cooked already and now I have to justify to Yamaha why I should have it fixed at no charge to myself.

If this motor is cooked and they won't replace it, I am giving this game up completely, selling everything and never to return to boating/fishing!

Thanks for listening to my vent..........

Splash

[rooboy98]

Splash, after all the planning and questions that went into this boat purchase I cannot believe that.

Oil in the fuel filter? I hope Yamaha get it sorted asap for ya.

Cheers,
Roo.

[Chas & Clarry]

Mate that is a clearly not how you wanted today to go. What a shocker after all the work you've put in. I really hope it is not a major issue and that yammy comes through for you.

Tim

[Mrs Ronnie H]

Hi
Sorry to hear and hope you get all things sorted with the motor.

Nothing worse in planning a trip only to have some mishap spoil the whole day. Know this only too well but persevere and i am sure things will get sorted and you will appreciate that day out even more when it eventuates.
Ronnie

[Splash]

re: filter - what ever filter it is - the level is very low.

This filter is inside the cowling.

Splash

[Justin Rossiter]

Rotten luck Splash

On my maiden voyage I had to be towed home due to outboard trouble, it's not much fun !!



Justin

[Spaniard_King]

Splash the only visable filter under the cowling is the fuel strainer now this may never e completely full of fuel, it can function perfectly with some air . Did you pump up the fuel system with the primer bulb.
Did you check the safety lanyard was in place corectly
Did the engine turn over at all?
Can you check the oil level in the engine.
Did the selling dealer explain the alarm system to you when you took ownership of the boat/

besides any of this Yamaha will sort it out for you. To be honest most faults like these are generally the dealers failure to fitup and predeliver the engine as per the manufacturers requirements.

[Axl]

I took my Polycraft 4.1m out for the very first time today - yellow waters kakadu national park.

Huge disappointment with the brand new 2012 yami 60hp motor!

It started first up, and about 2 mins into the journey - stop.

I tried and tried again, checked for fuel and waited 30 mins a few times before starting again to ensue flooding did not occur.

We had to row back around 1km back to ramp and then go home.

We try again to start it and nothing.

Yes, the battery is fully charged and yes i have clean fuel.

I lift the cowling and observe around 1.5cm of oil in the fuel filter.

I did not hear or observe any overheating alarm.

Why is there so little oil inside this filter???

The motor may now be cooked already and now I have to justify to Yamaha why I should have it fixed at no charge to myself.

If this motor is cooked and they won't replace it, I am giving this game up completely, selling everything and never to return to boating/fishing!

Thanks for listening to my vent..........

Splash

Unfortunate to here this on your maiden run after the waiting and preperation I have read about in your previous posts.

However it sounds like you are a bit confused I dont know much about 4 strokes as I have always owned 2 bangers but one thing I do know is there should'nt be any oil in a fuel filter.

Get it back to the dealer and wait and see what the mechanics have to say before you right it off, hopefully you will find all is ok.

[Splash]

thanks SK.

Yes, I pumped the fuel system with the primer bulb, but not 100% confident this was performing as it should over repeated attempts (i.e. getting hard).

For the very first time today, the bulb was hard, and the motor started straight away.

Everything turned to crap after that.

The motor ran for about 2 minutes and that was it. The rest of the voyage the motor tried hard to start, but gave up basically.

I do not know how to check the oil on this engine.

The lanyard was placed correctly as far as I know - is there any way of improperly connecting it (besides ON/OFF)?

The dealer sort of explained the alarm system but really did rush it IMO.

I presumed they tested the boat as part of their pre-delivery, but when I checked the external water/fuel separator, it was clean and had zero fuel in it - so I am pretty jacked off that (a) they either ran the motor without the fuel/water separator or did not run the motor at all......??

I made sure this water/fuel separator was full of fuel before I ventured out today....

Splash

PS - It seems that issues on maiden voyages with new outboards appear are not isolated.....

Axl - Yes I am confused a little - I think SK correctly identified that this item is the fuel strainer...

[Spaniard_King]

Splash.

Get the dealer to run over the itmes that you need to be doing. ie check the oil, flushing etc

IMO you ha ve a fuel blockage. New boats sometimes have foreign obstacles in them an they get stuck in the fuel lines causing the symptoms you have expressed here.

Very hard to damage a modern 4 stroke

[Splash]

thanks SK.

Where could this fuel blockage be?

And, shoudl the fuel tank have the vent screw released or tightened?

Also, what would cause my CTECK MS 7000 12V trickle charger to be very hot when charging this boat battery?


Splash

[Chas & Clarry]

Splash, definitely vent screw released. It is isn't the fuel flow can be compromised

Tim

[Spaniard_King]

Splash if you have the under floor fuel tank it has a ven t hose fitted to the front of the tank and it usually vents out the back of the boat on a poly

[Splash]

portable 22L tanks only...

splash

[WalrusLike]

Um, I am not an expert.... But I think you must have the vent open so that as fuel leaves the tank air can fill the void.

If its closed then I would expect the motor to run for a short while then die....

Maybe that's the problem?

My first trip didn't happen because my 'in driveway muffs on test' of the motor couldn't start it.... The dealer gave me a second hand boat with a flat battery. Just enough grunt in it to sound like it was ok but not enough to fire up the Yammie.

Good luck with yours..... All will be well soon.

[edit: Oops... Too slow]