Mooring or Trailer?

[The Woo]

I have a mate selling his GQ 4.2 Patrol with a Safari turbo kit. Good thing. But you proba don't want one just yet haha

[Chimo]

And Steve here are the makings for your new trailer or stand in the short term if thats your wish. Looks the goods for the price (plus freight / bugger!) There may be a way who knows?

http://www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-...ardstand/95166

Cheers
Chimo

Woo PM me the GQ details please

[The Woo]

Shall get and PM it

[stevemid]

Chimo,
Looks built like its built like a brick shite house but $4K? I would have thought the cost was in the axles/braking system. This is 8K.

[Chimo]

Price: AU $750 ono

[Chimo]

Price: AU $750 ono
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[cormorant]

Hi Steve


So many things depend on your usage and if you are 1 up or with mates/ family.

There is now 2 hardstand / racking marinas , one on pitwater and one on the harbour but if you have a mate with a waterfront and a pontoon it is teh way to go. Pen rental in Sydney is seriously offensive in cost

The antifoul you are talking about is OK for if it is trailered but you need to check with people who are using it in the harbour. It can collect slime fast and then everything attaches to the slime. Get a 1st hand opinion from someone using it in your local waters. Remember with any antifoul it is a hassle to coat with other styles afterwards if it doesn't work out. If your local yacht racers are not using it I would be asking why.

Several on water storage options from airlifts , floating docks and look up seapen

http://www.seapen.com.au/seapen.php ( yes it is the most painful website!!!)

Trailer . The great thing about cat trailers is you can do ally as they have the structural core to get stiffness up the tunnel. Look at a sailfish ( style) alloy trailer , stainless brakes , led lights and electric over hydraulic with durahubs. Very little maintainance and very long life but not cheap up front ( but worth it) . The ability to do maintainance out of the water, the less maintainance and wear and tear.

The downside is ramps and the people at em!! Downside is being a big rig on the road. Grip on ramps is a issue an d4wd can make it easy to access less than perfect ones at all tides safely.

The idea of transport is a vexed one as well. A full cabin cat with self draining floor on a trailer can't go on a regular truck as it will be over height. You need a lowloader and even then with our cat on a trailer we were overheight with spotlight and radar. 1mm over 2.5m in NSW for width and you are overwidth and the truck checking stations and RTA will catch up with big fines on the truck driver. Yes you can do oversize trucking and low loader but not at those rates and you have to wait for the right truck and then you have storage at the other end etc etc.

Let me tell you that to get around the height limits we used to put the boat and trailer on the low loader and then jack it up and take the wheels off and lower axel onto blocks we made. Took half a hour for 6 wheels for 2 blokes and reverse at the other end. We did use a newcastle bloke who transports caravans who had a extra low low loader rollon rolloff and with a spotlight off and tyres at low pressure we were 10mm under with cold truck tyres and lastly there was a super expensive towtruck that Sydney busses used to move busses but it was always on standby for the STA .

Now towing in NSW 2.5 is your limit on width without restrictions. Go over that and have a accident and you risk not being insured so keep it under 2.5m

Now the bad - Think about security. Unfortunately the small outboards you will have will be prime targets for theft on a moored boat and on a trailer visible to the public depending where you live as they are portable.

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/sydne...5ft/1004393150

Talking of motors did you see my post the other day where there is a QLD bloke importing small chinese diesel outboards. If they were reliable becuase you are displacement the weight wouldn't matter and would be great range but not sure about noise or vibration as I haven't seen em in the flesh.

If you are going to trailer the boat I'd be checking with the designer on if anymore glass matting would be required along the keels and if he suggests tefflon strips or rollers and what spacings. Check what he suggests for strap ro tiedown points as painted boats can cop a flogging from vibrating straps on the road

[stevemid]

Price: AU $750 ono
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I woulda swore it said 4k but musta been a grey moment

[Smithy]

My BA Forte sedan has a 2,300kg tow kit and heavy duty springs on it. If you were buying a Falcon for towing I would go a wagon for a bit of extra weight and the rod and esky storage in the back. It had no probs towing my Stabi all over the countryside but it was under 2T. I towed a 6.2 Seafarer Vagabond around Port Stephens with it and that was getting a bit scary. I'd say that was over 2.5T I wouldn't want anything approaching the 2,300kg. It did it but only just. Speed wobbles on the open road and had grip issues on the Little Cove ramp at low tide but then I also saw Rodeos and stuff with dramas on the sand at the bottom as well. Once you spun through the sand and got grip on the concrete it was ok. You'd want an auto with a transmission cooler. The clutch wouldn't last long on a ramp towing big stuff. 4wds with low range are an advantage on ramps. An alloy trailer will save you a bit of weight. I look forward to seeing where this discussion goes. Lots of pluses and minuses for both.

[Chimo]

Smithy you were game hitching a Vag behind a Falcon. Mine behind the Patrol (GQ 4.2 manual turbo diesel) is keen to share the fact that it is there but an easy safe tow. There is no way IMHO that the boat Steve is building will be safe or pleasant to tow behind anything less than a Patrol or equivalent. The windage alone will be a killer. At least the GQs are now affordable esp if one can find one in good mechanical condition thats not not rust affected.

The other issue will be whether the total package will be legal and who wants to spend retirement as a pauper if you get into an accident / some idiot hits you and you have no insurance and get sued as well.

Cheers
Chimo

PS Steve toughen up the boats bottom, buy a trailer (with lots of rollers and an electric winch so you don't have to wet your brakes) and a old 4WD (Woos mates Patrol?) and forget the trucking.
PS 2 You can always leave your boat up here, plenty of us to look after it!