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    Ausfish Platinum Member WalrusLike's Avatar
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    Navigation hints and shortcuts

    I have a couple of questions about my chart and also about safe shortcuts through Moreton bay.

    Can anyone tell me what these chart symbols mean from my Navionics app?

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    On another note: We have all seen or read about boats taking shortcuts around beacons and coming unstuck. But by the same token a runabout doesn't need the same water under it as a Gin Palace and so can afford to shortcut some channels.

    Can I ask if your leaving the Brisbane river what beacon would you round before turning for the Sandhills? All the way to the last or earlier on?

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    Ausfish Gold Member Richo1's Avatar
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    #1 submarine practice / military practice area

    #2 indicates an area for ships wanting to clear quarantine.

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    Re: Navigation hints and shortcuts

    the submarines mean that this is a submarine transit lane - probably nothing for us mere mortals to worry about.

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    Those dashes are spaced out evenly all over that page - I'd be confident from that snapshot that they don't represent anything in the real world.

    Boats and shortcuts - I'm not saying anything....
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    Re: Navigation hints and shortcuts

    As far as short cuts go in the bay You either have enough water or not enough water !
    I would not be using the Iphone app to navigate The bay even though i have it as well, If you do not know the bay that well leave from shorncliffe ramp Come out through the markers and point at bulwer or Tangalooma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WalrusLike View Post
    I have a couple of questions about my chart and also about safe shortcuts through Moreton bay.

    Can anyone tell me what these chart symbols mean from my Navionics app?

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    On another note: We have all seen or read about boats taking shortcuts around beacons and coming unstuck. But by the same token a runabout doesn't need the same water under it as a Gin Palace and so can afford to shortcut some channels.

    Can I ask if your leaving the Brisbane river what beacon would you round before turning for the Sandhills? All the way to the last or earlier on?
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    Re: Navigation hints and shortcuts

    Hi

    I believe that it is good navigational practice to always follow the beacons, therby being in safe water at all times. It is just something you should do as the skipper.

    Cheers

    VS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitamin Sea View Post
    Hi

    I believe that it is good navigational practice to always follow the beacons, therby being in safe water at all times. It is just something you should do as the skipper.

    Cheers

    VS
    Agreed. If you,ve laid a safe trail down the channel on the way out, it's a hell of a lot easier to follow the same trail back home, when its dark, or foggy, or the tide has dropped or the weather turned to crap.

    Saw some guys spend about 6 hours stuck on a mudbank on a falling tide after they cut the last corner in Westernport Bay. Hilarious.

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    Re: Navigation hints and shortcuts

    NUMBER 1, there is a heap of ship wrecks in your area. I would start fishing and try all those wrecks

    NUMBER 2, its snowing, so rug up or dont head out that day

    )))

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    Boats and shortcuts - I'm not saying anything....
    I'll agree to that - and if and when you do take a shortcut....you'll only do it once.

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    Boats and shortcuts - I'm not saying anything....
    Learn the hard way like the rest of us
    So many fish..... so little time

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    Ausfish Platinum Member WalrusLike's Avatar
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    Um... Er... I know I am tempting fate, and so far I always follow the beacons....

    But I feel a bit silly at the end of the Brisbane leads waiting to turn when there is more water all around than in most of the southern areas I usually haunt.

    I don't use Navionics to navigate... I have the Garmin 551s for that. I use it mostly to daydream on the commuter train.... That's where I am now and how I managed to be doing 37.5 knots in air conditioned comfort.

    Stuck late at work today... I am going to miss the first 25 minutes of the game!!!

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    Re: Navigation hints and shortcuts

    You just have to be confident that you can navigate your vessel safely, beacons or no beacons. I look at it firstly from a safety point of view, and then from an insurance/court of law point of view.
    "if I go here (outside of the clearly marked channel), can I justify my actions in court if need be?"

    Ultimately the skipper is responsible for the operation of the vessel, at all times, anywhere.

    Plenty of short cuts to be had around the bay, just check out the ones you are thinking of using with caution first.

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    Ausfish Platinum Member WalrusLike's Avatar
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    Yeah I agree... Safety first then also consider is it justifiable.

    In the case of the river exit to Sandhills it seems reasonable to me that the channel there, especially at the last couple of beacons, is really for the benefit of commercial shipping.

    If it was just a recreational boating channel those beacons wouldn't even be there. Maybe the first couple in case of river mud movement but that's all.

    Having said all that, I may still stick to the channel just because I am superstitious!

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    Re: Navigation hints and shortcuts

    Here's a hint.
    Never reply on the GPS for navigation. They lie just like those bloody fish finder thingamejigs.
    Learn how to use a paper chart and learn the area.
    Have you got a paper chart on board?? It's required as part of the safety equipment isn't it?

    Too many people have relied on their GPS and ended up on a rock wall.
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