Who has PERSONALLY experienced serious engine failure in the first 3-5 years

[captain rednut]

SO WHEN DOES LIMP MODE BE CLASSIFIED AS SERIOUS ENGINE FAILURE???
i THOUGHT IT WAS A PROTECTION DEVICE? HOW WILL THIS THREAD BE WORTHWILE IN DETERMINING SERIOUS FAULTS WITH ANY ONE BRAND?
CHEERS CR

[Spaniard_King]

I just ticked Honda because Spaniad King, being a Honda Tech, who has not owned a E-tec ticked the Evinrude box.. LOL

Oh, these 3 dont own E-tec's either, andkat, bunji9, Greg P

Jabba, I ticked etec as we nipped 1 up, melted a piston on another and killed 2 ECU's on Ficht engines when I was working for Seaworld. These were less than 12 month old engines, I recon that falls into the Evinrude category.. certainly wont fit in the suzi one:rolleyes: Please point out where the original poster asked for owners only to vote.. think it says those who have "experienced"

FYI yet to come across a honda that fits into the above category :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

Those second hand Hondas are coming up soon if your still interested :wink:

[Smithy]

2005 Johnson (rebadged Suzuki) 140hp cracked head @ 2,300 hours in January 2010.

[lampuki]

Hi....interesting thread.

I too hope honest feedback is provided.

I think number of hours is just as/if not more important than number of years.....


Cracked an alternator bolt on my opti, but I got home ok so I dont know if that would count as a serious failure??

[Jarrah Jack]

I'm a bit like finga, never had a new boat or car or motor..Thank god for GMC power tools.:smiley:

[ozscott]

...thanks Smithy...must admit didnt think about commercial motors...anyway worth sticking in.

How will limp home mode be relevant? Well, because unless it was just water pump failure or a placcy bag over the intake then it has failed to do what it was designed to do, advertised as doing, and expected to do from a buyer's perspective. Just cause it reduced revs to stop catastrophic failure does not mean it didnt fail...it failed to behave as you would expect - ie max revs when you want them and smooth running. If you were in a bar in limp home mode you might think it failed you...

Cheers

PS. YOU DONT HAVE TO YELL CAPTAIN REDNUT TO MAKE YOUR POINT...

PPS Gary is correct - it doesnt have to be the owner but it cant be hearsay (ie someone told you).

PPS. Gary - though thanked Captain Rednut and you are a mechanic - so please explain why you agree with him, so maybe the thread can be expanded/modified to suit what you are obviously thinking - thanks

[ozscott]

In some respects I agree on the hours, but most of us are not commercial guys and if we said inside 3000 hours that motor could then be 20 years old or more and if they are hot miles then 2000 odd hours is not on - its pretty poor for taxi hours occurring in the first 5 years of ownership.

I am confident that with honesty this thread can be worthwhile. Nobody should fear this thread. It may not be perfect, but it should help a buyer - especially if one particular brand is way ahead.

A buyer though will have to take into account advances, especially with the ETEC where the injector issue should not be put to rest (shoulda woulda...)

Cheers

[stinky-stabi]

had brand new efi 4s yamaha broke down once and wouldnt start the very first time out ...both were issues with the service personell and not motor quality though,,,,,,obviuosly they didnt sea test.....thats why bought another brand for the next motor...as dealer service was an issue changed dealers and brands

[finding_time]

hey Jabba , are you going to remove your vote now that garry has explained his or are you still head of marketing at BRP

[lampuki]

Hi Ian - i just read your updated post...cool

[ozscott]

FT - I made it a public poll mate to make it more transparent.

Cheers

[captain rednut]

HI OZSCOTT sorry it was just a flick of a button! i didnt mean to yell. cr

[finding_time]

Hi Ian.

Really...I didnt vote but I could see the results...strange?

There was just a window i had to click , i didn't initally see it

[ozscott]

No worries CR

Cheers

[Spaniard_King]

Scott,

CR was eluding to someone who may vote on a Engine going into safe mode and not allowing the user to get home. Most engines have safeguard paramaters to guard against continued damage to the engine.

IMO the serious engine failure should have been clarified some what to me i.e had a Total Engine failure with a repair cost of over $XXX including warranty support.