Would this setup for knots be ok - 50lb flurocarbon

[ItsHectic]

I am having some trouble with the 50lb flurocarbon leader I have as its quite thick, on top of that it turns out my cousin did the wrong knot for braided line so I need to start over.


Ive done some research and wanted to confirm if this was okay:
20lb Braided line using palomar knot to swivel
50lb flurocarbon inbetween swivel and hook both using Centuri knot??

[ItsHectic]

I am already regretting getting this leader, I was recomended it but I cant tie any knots with it, I tried a Clinch, Grincher and Palomar and theres always big gaps between the loops.

[Fafnir]

Hi ItsHectic, can I ask what you are fishing for? What style of fishing?

I tie my braid directly to my flurocarbon leader, no swivel. For trolling I would use a swivel, but then I would be trolling with mono normally, not braid.

[ItsHectic]

Hi ItsHectic, can I ask what you are fishing for? What style of fishing?

I tie my braid directly to my flurocarbon leader, no swivel. For trolling I would use a swivel, but then I would be trolling with mono normally, not braid.

King fish, jewfish and squid, and 2ndly bream and leatherjacket.

[Scott nthQld]

wow, 50lb leader for bream and leather jacket....a bit overkill I think. I use a lot of heavier leaders, up to 120lb, and the double uni works well for be from braid ( as small as 30lb to 120lb leader) to leader, and a single uni for tieing on terminal tackle, never had a failure in the knots and it probably the easiest knot to tie.

[Leighton]

Sounds heavy, Bimini twist to Allbright.
I have tied the Bimini twist to Allbright with 30lbs main and 40lbs leader with no dramas.
Are you really lubricating the knot before you tighten it?

[ItsHectic]

Yea I am spitting on it before i tighten it, but the problem is it wont easily bend tight enough so theres big gaps.

I will see how I go right now with a single uni to the terminal tackle.

[Leighton]

what brand leader?

[ItsHectic]

The uni knot seems to be the best I can do so far, its not snug but has the smallest gaps of all the knots I have tried. Looked at the Bimini but a double uni is a lot more apealing to me.

[ItsHectic]

Climax Haruna Seamaster is the brand of fluoro.

[Scott nthQld]

a bit of loctite over the knot will solve your dramas as well. Only a little is needed so a small bottle goes a very long way, and it retains close to 100% line strength in the knot.

[ffejsmada]

Personally, I reckon 50lb flurocarbon is a waste of time.

You've found out the hard way. It's very hard to tie knots in because of it's stiffness.

If you want to use 50 lb leader, I use Penn 10X, good stuff, nice and supple, easy to join braid main line to leader.

I reckon flurocarbon leader is more suited to lighter line sizes, leader up to 20lb, then I'd go with mono. Schnieder or Penn 10X.

Cheers Jeff..

[Leighton]

But if he is fishing for kings you are going to need the abrasion resistance of a good FC, do you get the same from a Mono?

[ItsHectic]

I got some 16lb mono leader.
I will give this stuff a tester with some superglue otherwise I will go with some different FC.

[ffejsmada]

But if he is fishing for kings you are going to need the abrasion resistance of a good FC, do you get the same from a Mono?

Once the outer coating of fluro has been compromised such as a nick or cut it's as good as useless.

Heavy monos like Damyl, Schnieder,Black Magic, Penn 10X are the way to go if wanting a 50, 80lb or heavier leader. Much tougher than flurocarbon. Heaps cheaper too.

What were they using before the flurocarbon craze?????

Mono, then jinkai, now it's flurocarbon.

Jeff.