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  1. #16

    Re: Are you acting illegally and if so why?

    I voted yes. But I don't do as thorough a job as i use to before the restrictions. I think if you know what your doing you will use less water using a hose/pressure system then a bucket. I did the bucket thing once. it took 4 times the time it would using a hose and i managed to miss a couple of spots that ended up getting some nice salt encrustation marks on the hull > Mine lives in the shed but has to be washed outside. I like keeping the inside clean too so the smelly stuff dosn't drift up stairs

    I have tried washing the rig down the road at car lovers but all the cr#p in the boat kept blowing back into the boat probablly a different story for a bigger boat.

    Cheers
    Brandon...

  2. #17

    Re: Are you acting illegally and if so why?

    Hey Kev, I think the government offer up to a $1500 rebate on a tank so you could buy a pressure cleaner for around $200. I spose it's a matter of having the funds first for the tank,im renting so i can't do the tank job.

    Dave.
    Avast ye matey!


  3. #18

    Re: Are you acting illegally and if so why?

    As I hav said in another thread in regards to washing your boat, My bet would be to take it down to a place live car lovers etc and pay the $20 is takes to get your rig washed (that price depends on the size of your rig as well!).

    Brett and I don't own a boat but the cost we are saving to get even a cheapy runs well over what it costs by the council to use the water. If you are in an area where your boat sits out the front and you have those busy body neighbours that will run to the council, on your way back form a great day, stop in there and give her the once over.

    Not only do you not get into trouble by the council you can use a gurney and make sure you get all the grunge off her. I believe that if you pay $20,000 for a decent boat you should be able to clean her in your front/back yard but in some circumstances its just not that easy.

    We are on tank water where we are and as long as you have a sign up you can do what you want. But being a preious resident in the Brisbane City area I can understand completely how neighbours nad the council will react.

    Its in the end up to yourselves what you do but if car lovers are happy to use their water then I say spend that little bit extra and do it there.

    Think of it this way... If you catch fish for dinner then the money you spend saves you buying dinner..

    Happy hunting,
    The Hooded Warriors
    " Put a beer in one hand and a rod in the other and We're in Heaven! "

  4. #19

    Re: Are you acting illegally and if so why?

    Think of it this way... If you catch fish for dinner then the money you spend saves you buying dinner..

    Happy hunting,
    The Hooded Warriors[/quote]


    Hodded Warrior, But have'nt you already shelled out for your dinner in buying the boat in the first place.

    Dave.
    Avast ye matey!


  5. #20
    bidkev
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    Re: Are you acting illegally and if so why?

    Quote Originally Posted by dogsbody
    Hey Kev, I think the government offer up to a $1500 rebate on a tank so you could buy a pressure cleaner for around $200. I spose it's a matter of having the funds first for the tank,im renting so i can't do the tank job.

    Dave.
    Rung and e mailed quite a few companies....they're having a beano.........the earliest delivery was late April/early May

    kev

  6. #21

    Re: Are you acting illegally and if so why?

    Quote Originally Posted by kingtin
    [quote author=Brett1907 link=1163984007/0#4 date=1163989769]

    Kingtin, have you thought abaout buying a small tank, you can get one big enough to wash the boat for less than $300. #That way it will cost you less than $30 per wash over the long term and if they try to fine you, you can give them the finger. #Works both ways.

    Brett
    Yeah Brett..but then I'd have to buy a pressure cleaner that sucks water and they ain't cheap.

    kev
    [/quote]

    They are not that bad Kev, I got a Karcher for $299 and it sucks, and there was a cheaper/smaller model Karcher that sucked.
    Two fines would buy one.
    You have the option of buying a pressure pump for the tank and using a normal hose with trigger.
    Buckets are supposed to be 20 litres or less, and you are not supposed to use the hose to fill the bucket, just directly from the tap.
    My tap is a fair way from where I wash the boat so I am installing a new tap closer, then I will bucket a short distance (2 feet) to a storage box which holds about 70 litres and suck from that so I can do the whole boat in one go.
    As far as I can tell that is all legal.
    Then I will go inside and open a beer and jump into a hot bath and use another couple of hundred litres.
    It is a wonder they havn't banned that, but then how would they know.
    Gone are the days when you washed your boat for a couple of hours and left the hose running full pelt on the lawn in between uses.
    Even when the dams fill up this summer there will probably still be some bans.

  7. #22

    Re: Are you acting illegally and if so why?

    Kev,

    http://www.nrw.qld.gov.au/water/save...ise_scheme.pdf

    The state government will give a rebate of up to $1000, towards the supply and installation of rain water tank and pressure pump. You seem like a handy bloke so most of the install can be done by yourself, might find you are only out of pocket $300 - $500.
    Saves wasting the the potable water, and you wont need to get a new gurney.

    Sorry mate but "30 bucks a wash to protect 90 grand ain't too bad in my books" is not a good enough reason to pour potable water down the storm water drains. To many people think its somebody else's problem not mine, sitting here boasting about it ain't gonna make you any new friends

  8. #23
    hussy
    Guest

    Re: Are you acting illegally and if so why?

    they are selling plastic 44 gallon drums near my place for $25.00 put a tee off the downpipe and hook up to karcher. could work

  9. #24

    Re: Are you acting illegally and if so why?

    Quote Originally Posted by dogsbody
    Think of it this way... If you catch fish for dinner then the money you spend saves you buying dinner..

    Happy hunting,
    The Hooded Warriors

    Hodded Warrior, But have'nt you already shelled out for your dinner in buying the boat in the first place.

    Dave.[/quote]


    You get a lot more out of that boat than just fish for dinner
    " Put a beer in one hand and a rod in the other and We're in Heaven! "

  10. #25
    bidkev
    Guest

    Re: Are you acting illegally and if so why?

    Quote Originally Posted by bungie
    Kev,

    http://www.nrw.qld.gov.au/water/save...ise_scheme.pdf

    The state government will give a rebate of up to $1000, towards the supply and installation of rain water tank and pressure pump. You seem like a handy bloke so most of the install can be done by yourself, might find you are only out of pocket $300 - $500.
    Saves wasting the the potable water, and you wont need to get a new gurney.

    Sorry mate but "30 bucks a wash to protect 90 grand ain't too bad in my books" is not a good enough reason to pour potable water down the storm water drains. To many people think its somebody else's problem not mine, sitting here boasting about it ain't gonna make you any new friends
    I ain't boasting mate, I'm just trying to gauge other folk's feelings on the matter and how important it is to them to wash their boat. I know of folks who never wash down from one year to the next.

    One of the points I'm making is that it's alright for someone to wash their boat with buckets and probably most of the water drips off the sponge and goes down the drive, isn't directed efficiently to where the water should be concentrated and is wasted, whilst I could be penalised for using less water via a pressure cleaner.

    I'm zero lotted so my only option is a slimline tank which has a minimum delivery date of 6 months Even then, if I do install, I will have a bare 2 feet to squeeze round it down the side of the house.

    The post was intended to gauge reaction so that I could identify certain issues that may just fire me up enough to start a pressure group to try and convince the minister for water that the bucket rule (in relation to boaties) is a detriment to water conservation, not a help. If a pressure cleaner is more efficient, then shouldn't they be legislating for that?

    It may sound pompous but I think I have a "right" to use a water efficient method of cleaning my rig, when I have put other considerations into saving water. I have a "dry" garden, planned for water conservation which I don't water at all, whilst folk around me are chucking mega bucket litres of water onto their gardens for an hour, 3 days a week. Me washing my rig once a fortnight (at most) pales into insignificance when compared to that...........the law's an ass..........as someone once said, and I will continue to say

    kev

  11. #26
    bidkev
    Guest

    Re: Are you acting illegally and if so why?

    Quote Originally Posted by thehoodedwarriors

    As I hav said in another thread in regards to washing your boat, My bet would be to take it down to a place live car lovers etc and pay the $20 is takes to get your rig washed (that price depends on the size of your rig as well!).
    That's ok in theory but it takes me an hour to clean my rig properly. How would you feel if you were behind me in the queue?

    No thanks, I'd rather deal with a water inspector.........dealing with road rage, ramp rage, kid's Xmas wish list rage, and the deckie's "the bloody pick's stuck" rage is enough for me, without having to deal with car wash rage

    kev

  12. #27

    Re: Are you acting illegally and if so why?

    Quote Originally Posted by kingtin
    [quote author=thehoodedwarriors link=1163984007/15#17 date=1164004120]

    As I hav said in another thread in regards to washing your boat, My bet would be to take it down to a place live car lovers etc and pay the $20 is takes to get your rig washed (that price depends on the size of your rig as well!).
    That's ok in theory but it takes me an hour to clean my rig properly. How would you feel if you were behind me in the queue?

    No thanks, I'd rather deal with a water inspector.........dealing with road rage, ramp rage, kid's Xmas wish list rage, and the deckie's "the bloody pick's stuck" rage is enough for me, without having to deal with car wash rage

    kev
    [/quote]



    Kev you need to chill out and get some of that stress out of your life!

    I suppose that is true but at the same time depends ont he car wash place. If your an avid fisherwoman like I am I would be happy sitting watching till your finished.
    " Put a beer in one hand and a rod in the other and We're in Heaven! "

  13. #28
    bidkev
    Guest

    Re: Are you acting illegally and if so why?

    Quote Originally Posted by thehoodedwarriors
    [quote author=kingtin link=1163984007/15#25 date=1164008394][quote author=thehoodedwarriors link=1163984007/15#17 date=1164004120]

    As I hav said in another thread in regards to washing your boat, My bet would be to take it down to a place live car lovers etc and pay the $20 is takes to get your rig washed (that price depends on the size of your rig as well!).
    That's ok in theory but it takes me an hour to clean my rig properly. How would you feel if you were behind me in the queue?

    No thanks, I'd rather deal with a water inspector.........dealing with road rage, ramp rage, kid's Xmas wish list rage, and the deckie's "the bloody pick's stuck" rage is enough for me, without having to deal with car wash rage

    kev
    [/quote]



    Kev you need to chill out and get some of that stress out of your life!

    I suppose that is true but at the same time depends ont he car wash place. If your an avid fisherwoman like I am I would be happy sitting watching till your finished.[/quote]

    You mean you wouldn't get out and help me? Bugger!

    kev

  14. #29

    Re: Are you acting illegally and if so why?

    Kev I voted yes

    I was my boat at work on the way home from fshing evertime usint the preeure washer...so no rules broken

    I flush my outboard at home...no rules broken.

    But

    I wash my fishing gear like rods with soapy water..no rules broken, and then......rinse off with the hose.....please dont think I am a criminal.

    Cheers

    Steven
    Cheers

    Steven

  15. #30
    finga64
    Guest

    Re: Are you acting illegally and if so why?

    Yep, I'll have to say I'm a criminal.
    Bloody little boat took me too friggin' long and I lost too much bark off the knuckles and sweat out of my brow doing it up to let corrode away because this silly government couldn't see far enough in the future to allow for the massive population explosion in SEQ. Knumbskulls they are >
    Bloody hell, until a week or so ago it was legal for lazy so and so's to empty their dirty 50,000L pool down the gutter and refill it again with nice clean water instead of spending a few hours cleaning the existing water in the pool. Where's the logic in that??

    But on the other hand I know what it's like to have no water so we don't use very much water anyways at the best of times.
    We don't water the garden at all from the tap. (was have a grey water system that does a lap around the house evry week or so just using shower water) we have a front loader washer and we have short showers to name a few saving measures.

    Really hard to throw water under a hull from a bucket, so the hose does the job for me but whenever possible I go to a rello in the Redlands to wash the boat out after a hard day on the water.
    In my own little mind I know I'm saving more water then most of the neighbourhood so I haven't got a guilty mind at all when I wash the boat.

    How many people turn the tap off whilst brushing their teeth??
    We learnt that years ago when I was a kid when the only wter we had was from a 1000 gallon tank.

    My conscience is clear because I make sacrifices elsewhere so I can wash the boat.

    PS I'm sure I read in the fine print of the rebate scheme that the work has to be done by a licensed person and no a drivers license won't do

    PPs I'm with Kev.
    I'm not going to get into the carwash rage when someone pulls in behind me and I start to pull the boat apart to wash it. It takes me about an hour to pull apart, wash and put back together.
    I'm also not going to go to a carwash at 10pm so there isn't anybody else there to (a) me to peeve or (b) somebody to peeve me

    Time for a green ginger the cook tells me so ta ta

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