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    Haines 445R - Does it have under floor boouancy to float if capsized?

    Not that I plan on capsizing one haha, but do the old haines 445 models have an under floor cavity so it will stay afloat if capsized?

    A lot of tinnies these days are modelled off a similar hull design, ie 2m~ beam with a moderate 16 degree deadrise with sharp down turn chines to help with spray but more so to make the hull nice and stable.

    But the 445 has a sharper entry and being made of glass has a softer ride. Being a bar crossing boaty I like to know there is something to hold onto if the boat some how capsizes, ie engine conks out just as hitting the swell and boat is side on. An act of god as they put it in insurance policies.

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    Re: Haines 445R - Does it have under floor boouancy to float if capsized?

    No they dont, unless they have been rebuilt and someone has done the job - hopefully properly in sealed cells to avoid water penetration. Water logged foam is no fun.

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    Re: Haines 445R - Does it have under floor boouancy to float if capsized?

    Surely they would have sealed air chambers wouldn't they?

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    Re: Haines 445R - Does it have under floor boouancy to float if capsized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fed View Post
    Surely they would have sealed air chambers wouldn't they?
    Thats what I thought. I know most Haines have a cavity there, most boats do.I just wasnt sure if it was designed to float. Some boats even in the 70s were designed with enough buoyancy to keep it afloat. There is a formula, I will have to dig it up, but will need to know the litre space of the cavity.

    This is why when buying an old haines thats had its seats chopped out for pedestals you want to make sure the structural integrity isnt compromised so it cracks and leaks water in and causes rot etc.

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    Re: Haines 445R - Does it have under floor boouancy to float if capsized?

    I've only seen two boats go over,don't know what the first one was but the second was a Seafarer Viking and both just had the nose just out of the water in a capsized position.My mate in the Viking said if it didn't have a bow rail he would have had no chance of hanging on.

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    Re: Haines 445R - Does it have under floor boouancy to float if capsized?

    The Tasmanians do this rather well, probably the cold water is an incentive to stay above it esp in winter.

    https://www.mast.tas.gov.au/guides/buoyancy-boats/

    https://www.mast.tas.gov.au/wp-conte...iler-Boats.pdf
    What could go wrong.......................

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    Re: Haines 445R - Does it have under floor boouancy to float if capsized?

    as banshee said
    will turn turtle and have about 1/4 of the boat sticking up

    nothing in the side pockets and tbh its only a very small floor area with small voids, so even the air pockets are minimal
    i rebuilt a 446 but was before digital photography and the ease of taking photos

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    Re: Haines 445R - Does it have under floor boouancy to float if capsized?

    Great links Chimo thanks

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    Re: Haines 445R - Does it have under floor boouancy to float if capsized?

    The Victorian government has a guidline here:

    https://transportsafety.vic.gov.au/m...ation/buoyancy

    I'm doing mine, a 5.4m fiberglass boat, I have done the calculation and I am about half way through. There is sufficient room under the gunnels, outboard well and bow area. I got hold of some microlene foam floatation from a factory in Revesby, Sydney which is 5 min from where I live so there was no freight - I just taped it to my roof rack and drove slowly.

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