Tow vehicle Pajero vs Navara

[stevej]

a newish v8 commodore or falcon will drop below 10l per 100 at hwy speeds they only use 2-22l per hundred cause thats how the owners want to drive them

[gofishin]

...Would be nice to have the extra tow capacity just in case I win the lotto...

If that was the case you would put a ‘free’ sign on the car and upgrade that too

With those 2 choices (assuming D40 and the Paj was NM 3.5L not NP3.8L) I would go the Paj 100% for several reasons... and I have owned both as well as Petrol and Diesel variants, and we have had quite a few D40’s at work too...
- highish k’s means petrol less likely for high maintenance $’s
- 3.5L V6 very reliable and proven motor and much better on fuel than 3.8
- @5k per year expected use the penalty for extra fuel cost is minimal; say between 5L to max 10L per 100km penalty, @ $1.40/L = $350 - $700 p.a. Not much considering what you could spend on the Diesel in repairs. Injector problems etc and worst case is engine goes bang. We had one at work do this too!

probably a few others but gotta go to work .

PS. Don’t get me wrong, I am a Diesel man 100% normally, but with these 2 options, 0% .

Cheers Brendon

PSS. The auto D40 diesel much more thirsty than manual version, especially when not on highway, although this was towing 3t and not 2ish

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[Paul071978]

Haha yeah second thoughts if I won lotto I would probably be getting around in a new cruiser wagon.

So it seems petrol Pajero might be better option for reliability If travelling minimal kms. Thanks again for everyone’s input much appreciated 👍🏿

[gazza2006au]

One thing u may need to watch is with the older 90's era models going over 90kph they sucked petrol like a water bomber picking up water i donno if this goes for the later 00 era models but look into it, if u sit on 110 115kph they go nuts on the fuel

[gazza2006au]

Speaking of tow vehicles i was trying to pull my 5.7 meter glass boat up a hill in the back yard the other day a lot of 'i cant hear you' ' what was that' cant see past the bow in the hull in the xtrail shes not wide enough almost tore my fence down and burnt out my clutch clutch was stinky

We over to my brothers house today and he is selling me his old car he paid 30-40k for $400 yeah ha new tow vehicle ford territory needs a tow bar i see hayman and reece make a 2700kg bar

[Flex]

What boat are you towing? That’ll make all the difference in choice.

If it’s a boat around 2.5t loaded then won’t matter what vehicle you choose out of the two.

Once you start getting close to the 3t-3.5t range then I find only a few cars can do it safely. A

Ute’s are better for towing due to chassis length. Especially on the freeway. Bigger cruisers etc Get away with it with airbags and car weight. But longer wheel base is better.





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[catshark]

didnt the x trail like the weight of the ol girl,,

[Andy56]

didnt the x trail like the weight of the ol girl,,

Well the xtrail was a very capable 4wd in deisel form but it is limited by its light weight. I did smoked all four wheels when the rear trailer wheels got stuck on the edge of the ramp at rosebud beach. Amusing that i did it but also a reminder that its wasnt a mac, lol.
as for deisel or petrol, my current car shows it aint so clear cut. I have a VE commodore V6. I have seen as low as 7.5l/100km on the freeways but i usually sit around 10l/100km. Towing goes straight to 14s.
My shock was borrowing my brothers toyota "low rider" ute. Deisel and primitive although only 4 yrs old. It was no better than the commodore on consumption.
yet my trailblazer in thailand has seen a low of 6.5 on the freeway work but averages about 10 in the city.
Add that petrol is now substantially cheaper than deisel and the equation gets more confusing.
my experience though is that petrol utes are phenomenal guzzlers. And this would sway my thinking to deisel for towing. No matter how much you may complain that it drinks, in petrol form i recon it would be worse. I am open to other input, but i recon what i just wrote would be on everyones mind. Then add the choice between poorer motor choices and outright costs. I would be hesitant too. Best to heed the lessons more experience user here have.

[Flex]

Diesels are far better at towing generally.
Having said that it can depend.
My 3l Navara would burn 28l per 100km towing my sharkcat. I’d imagine a petrol patrol/cruiser would do it faster for similar fuel.

New dmax towed the same boat for 16-17l per 100. So big difference in the newer diesels .


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[gazza2006au]

didnt the x trail like the weight of the ol girl,,

Not trying to take off up hill stopping reversing and restarting again lol it flogged my front drive shafts they king of had a wobble in them after this ordeal without towing anything,the territory should be able to tow the big boat piss easy tho

[Dignity]

My BIL had an auto petrol xtrail, wouldn't reverse a lightly weighted garden trailer up a slight incline, he wasn't impressive.

[Andy56]

My BIL had an auto petrol xtrail, wouldn't reverse a lightly weighted garden trailer up a slight incline, he wasn't impressive.

I had the 6speed auto. The new cvt are trash.

[gazza2006au]

Yeah the Xtrails are light weight i think they should be rated for no more than 1200kg towing capacity i have towed on a car trailer with my Xtrail a Holden Barina and another time a Mitsibishi Lancer, and a Citroen Berlingo, the barina was only towed around 5km's, the lancer was towed around 30km's the berlingo shit boxwas towed from Newcastle to Western Sydney about 200km's i done that trip solo and never will i buy another berlingo haha

[scottar]

Typical of a lot of small capacity road vehicles with gear ratio's that simply don't lend themselves to heavy loads and engines that develop stated torque numbers in a "peaky" fashion at high RPM. There is simply no replacement for displacement apart from specialist gearing to match - ie - low range or something like the Amorok's gearbox. Even the small capacity diesels in manual form have become problem children as far as towing is concerned - a combination of lighter clutches and dual mass flywheels to make the driving experience more "car like" and engines that need revs to develop any power.

[catshark]

well the ford terrie should pull allright, 4.0 barra engine and bullet proof german ZF gearbox. should be at least 2300kg tow limit , only thing against them is the fuel usage and back springs a bit saggy give the steering a bit of a floaty feel, my observation from towing a 2000kg package.