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  1. #226

    Re: E-Tec, Optimax, 4 Stroke? Looking at 115hp range

    Quote Originally Posted by gazza2006au View Post
    Bill Sadly you would struggle to get $1500 for that engine in today's market thats if it would even sell

    I got it in todays market (more or less ie 10 mths ago). They wouldn't budge on price. I might of go a new one for $6,400 but the last shipment sold out in quick time. Maybe in 10 years time it would be worth $1500. In any case why would I care if it was worthless and I got 10 years of trouble free use out of it?

  2. #227

    Re: E-Tec, Optimax, 4 Stroke? Looking at 115hp range

    as the others have said, just save for the right engine and save yourself all the hassle. it sounds like the 90 merc is going to be drawn out process again as you might end up having to fork out more than you thought to get it going, or end up ditching it also depending on whats wrong with it.
    you have half an engine, half a boat and half a trailer, with no completion date in sight. at least save yourself the grief with the engine, and get the boat and trailer done!

  3. #228

    Re: E-Tec, Optimax, 4 Stroke? Looking at 115hp range

    I think the Mercury 90hp is a keeper, i will resume work on the trailer shortly as i also have half a car waiting on parts to get delivered, i was absolutely firing a long when i done the transom on the boat than i just hit a brick wall i was helping so many other people do there crap i got caught up and everything stopped on my projects and i dont even go fishing anymore and i love fishing this time of year i would be out 2 to 3 times a week i havent been out in over a month

    there is a reason for my lack of motivation and i wont air it out over the internet as i'll cop flack for it but i just need to focus on one project at a time

    if i can find a powerhead for the Mercury that will knock off one job which should be a easy unbolt and bolt on the new one but it cost some moolah that should tho save the farting around rebuilding one

    just wish i had some help someone to help with motivation someone rocking up on a sat sun morning 7am lets get stuck it to kind of thing

  4. #229

    Re: E-Tec, Optimax, 4 Stroke? Looking at 115hp range

    Quote Originally Posted by gazza2006au View Post
    Steve how would i be paying more for less? how on earth will a $800 engine that cost to buy in running condition $7000 that means i have $6200 for repairs to get a equal or better engine a powerhead is all i need there was one on ebay australia just yesterday for $1200 but the seller didn't get back to me
    I was referring to money spent on the etec driving 7 hours, driving to see crank specialists welders or whatever else you did to investigate its repair paying 800 for this and so on

    you spent 800 and its still not a running engine so don't be selective in your replies to counter a valid point
    also worrying about reliability when you plan to put a backyard rebuilt engine that's been previously detonated don't make sense either
    as per the etec you don't know why the merc failed

  5. #230

    Re: E-Tec, Optimax, 4 Stroke? Looking at 115hp range

    Quote Originally Posted by stevej View Post
    I was referring to money spent on the etec driving 7 hours, driving to see crank specialists welders or whatever else you did to investigate its repair paying 800 for this and so on

    you spent 800 and its still not a running engine so don't be selective in your replies to counter a valid point
    also worrying about reliability when you plan to put a backyard rebuilt engine that's been previously detonated don't make sense either
    as per the etec you don't know why the merc failed
    Money spent on the Etec was $1500, money spent driving 7 hours was about $55 for a tank of fuel, driving to the engineer was $10 in fuel, buying the Mercury was $800 and its still not running wow i am not a magician mate and i'm not trying to be funny but i have mentioned this i have spent $2365 where can i buy a running engine for this amount that is not a 30 40 year old engine? any modern fuel injected 90hp+ outboard for $2400 will be shagged to the shitter and ready to blow up, now i could keep saving and double that lets say $5000 what does 5k get ya? it gets u bottom of the line modern 2 or 4 stroke that could be on its last leg now that $5000 gets me a blown up engine it allows me to do a full rebuild without skimping on bits here and there and it gives me the confidence i need and the reliability to go where i want

  6. #231

    Re: E-Tec, Optimax, 4 Stroke? Looking at 115hp range

    Quote Originally Posted by gazza2006au View Post
    Money spent on the Etec was $1500, money spent driving 7 hours was about $55 for a tank of fuel, driving to the engineer was $10 in fuel, buying the Mercury was $800 and its still not running wow i am not a magician mate and i'm not trying to be funny but i have mentioned this i have spent $2365 where can i buy a running engine for this amount that is not a 30 40 year old engine? any modern fuel injected 90hp+ outboard for $2400 will be shagged to the shitter and ready to blow up, now i could keep saving and double that lets say $5000 what does 5k get ya? it gets u bottom of the line modern 2 or 4 stroke that could be on its last leg now that $5000 gets me a blown up engine it allows me to do a full rebuild without skimping on bits here and there and it gives me the confidence i need and the reliability to go where i want
    I'd trust my Parsun with 10hrs and a warranty and in the 5K ballpark more than a backyard rebuilt high tech motor. Also it is often said that the cost of rebuilding a 4 stroke is not economically viable. Your just assuming that you can rebuild for that amount and with confidence in it's reliability. As some have pointed out rebuilt motors often don't last that long, even when professionally done.

  7. #232

    Re: E-Tec, Optimax, 4 Stroke? Looking at 115hp range

    your up to $2365 and don't have either working another 2k to get the 90 running that's $4365 that's what you should be comparing which Is almost what billfisher paid for his engine

    in regards to where you will get a reliable low hours modern engine for the money you want to spend ?, well you wont so a 10 year old 2 stroke is the better option and will have a hp to transom weight to suit your older boat.

    its only the recent modern 4 strokes that are getting down in weight that 90 wont be enough for your hull but you have ignored that point

  8. #233

    Re: E-Tec, Optimax, 4 Stroke? Looking at 115hp range

    well sounds like the 90 is a keeper than and if it needs a powerhead that all is needed to bolt in than sounds like youve got this soughted, will be fine if you are doing trolling around the rocks and things like that . Any thoughts on how the damage occurred in the mercury..

  9. #234

    Re: E-Tec, Optimax, 4 Stroke? Looking at 115hp range

    Quote Originally Posted by stevej View Post
    your up to $2365 and don't have either working another 2k to get the 90 running that's $4365 that's what you should be comparing which Is almost what billfisher paid for his engine

    in regards to where you will get a reliable low hours modern engine for the money you want to spend ?, well you wont so a 10 year old 2 stroke is the better option and will have a hp to transom weight to suit your older boat.

    its only the recent modern 4 strokes that are getting down in weight that 90 wont be enough for your hull but you have ignored that point
    Steve i have sold 5 parts off the Etec in 2 3 days i should be able to get my money back on that so that should not be drawn into the equation

    that 10 year old to stroke has been rebuilt or it needs rebuilding 2 strokes are short lived and they need new top ends after so many hours i think they call it a major service possibly a overhaul its at the point people sell the engines than the next guy which will be me just runs it into the ground or rebuilds it

    the Mercury weighs about 185kg and the Etec 130hp weighed that!

  10. #235

    Re: E-Tec, Optimax, 4 Stroke? Looking at 115hp range

    Quote Originally Posted by catshark View Post
    well sounds like the 90 is a keeper than and if it needs a powerhead that all is needed to bolt in than sounds like youve got this soughted, will be fine if you are doing trolling around the rocks and things like that . Any thoughts on how the damage occurred in the mercury..
    Cat the boat was rated to 100hp when i was tearing it down i came across the old capacity sticker from back in the day from maritime and it was marked 100hp i have done the US Coast Guard calculations and it came out that my hulls maximum horse power rating is 124hp

    i need to send the computer off to the USA for repairs as the conrod dented the metal casing so i may ask if they can reflash the computer to 115hp as my mercury is a 75hp 90hp 115hp block

  11. #236

    Re: E-Tec, Optimax, 4 Stroke? Looking at 115hp range

    Bit of a shame really Gazza, I sold my 2005 125 mercury, 2 stroke, this time last year, was in A1 condition, didnt miss a beat, 4 cylinder model, I'm upgrading to a 4 stroke, I couldn't give it away ! the guy that bought it, has done over 100 hours, absolutely luvs it. sold it for 2k.
    I see them go or advertised for up to 3-4k, but they don't sell, there's some good running options out their, with guys looking to upgrade to a fourstroke.
    I regularly went out to shelf and in 4 years did over 300 hours, last owner had it new.
    plenty of cheap running options out there, in my opinion, cheaper than buying a non runner and having to rebuild.

    Col

  12. #237

    Re: E-Tec, Optimax, 4 Stroke? Looking at 115hp range

    Quote Originally Posted by gazza2006au View Post
    Steve i have sold 5 parts off the Etec in 2 3 days i should be able to get my money back on that so that should not be drawn into the equation

    that 10 year old to stroke has been rebuilt or it needs rebuilding 2 strokes are short lived and they need new top ends after so many hours i think they call it a major service possibly a overhaul its at the point people sell the engines than the next guy which will be me just runs it into the ground or rebuilds it

    the Mercury weighs about 185kg and the Etec 130hp weighed that!
    Plenty of 2 strokes last 20 or more years without a re- build under recreational use. By major service I think this means replacing the head gasket at around 10 years.

  13. #238

    Re: E-Tec, Optimax, 4 Stroke? Looking at 115hp range

    Billfisher

    I have a 15 evinrude from the 70s that still runs sitting in the corner of the shed for sentimental reasons.

    Would have thousands of hours on it the amount granddad then dad used it

    And Gazza your wrong
    Looked after low revving two strokes like outboards donít wear out, the ancillaries around them go first

    90 hp will not be enough for your hull

  14. #239

    Re: E-Tec, Optimax, 4 Stroke? Looking at 115hp range

    2 strokes short lived, really, that's too funny!
    what's a top end rebuild, rings and head gaskets, every chance it'll still have it's original hone marks!

  15. #240

    Re: E-Tec, Optimax, 4 Stroke? Looking at 115hp range

    I have had four of those Yamaha 30hp 3 cylinder models at various times
    One had 2000 hours on it from trolling a lot
    Compression was only 5psi off new

    Good oil
    Flush them well
    Replace the annodes regularly
    Soapy wash around the power head

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