Lee it was an absolute pleasure to go with you and i got to ride in a Riptide, now i know why no one wants to sell theirs uness upgrading. Conditions werent great as Lee mentions, we wondered how wide the bar was as it just didnt ease up. As mentioned there some great shows but they just weren't on the chew, there was no current at all which was probably the cause, no run, no fun. I still a great day on the water, thanks again (still didn't get to try out my electric reel)