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    2 stroke end in sight

    After July 1, 2019, any carbie outboards in stock at dealers or importers must be destroyed or re-exported. Those engines in operation and privately owned are still OK to use. The regulations apply to the sale of new engines only.

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    Ausfish Silver Member
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    Re: 2 stroke end in sight

    Do you have a reference for that statement?

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    Re: 2 stroke end in sight

    No need for a reference. Old news. It's happening. Initially it becomes illegal to import new engines then further down the track illegal to sell them and existing stock is required to be destroyed. Not illegal to own one or sell second hand privately
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    Re: 2 stroke end in sight

    Quote Originally Posted by scottar View Post
    No need for a reference. Old news. It's happening. Initially it becomes illegal to import new engines then further down the track illegal to sell them and existing stock is required to be destroyed. Not illegal to own one or sell second hand privately
    Which means a dealer will put one in a boat as a demo and sell it as second hand😉

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    Re: 2 stroke end in sight

    Yes, just upgraded my tender outboard on the basis they will be phased out on 1 July. During my enquiries dealers wouldn't bring outboards in if they didn't already have them in stock. So had to ring around to find dealers with stock (Yamaha 2st 8hp).

    A quick Google will find you the relevant rules applying from 1 July.

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    Re: 2 stroke end in sight

    Get your carby 2 stroke and hang onto it, cheers


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    Re: 2 stroke end in sight

    Can't say that I will be rushing out to buy one and keep it.

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    Re: 2 stroke end in sight

    Haha...thought some people would say that. Horses for courses. I just read a reprint of Peter Webster's Australian Boating test of a 15hp Yammy 4 stroke v 15hp Yammy 2 stroke...very little in it at cruising RPM (10% fuel difference) and personally in some applications i would prefer the reliability and simplicity of a 2 stroke over the slight fuel gain and much quieter idle of a 4.

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    Re: 2 stroke end in sight

    It's a weight thing

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    Re: 2 stroke end in sight

    so what is the difference in weight of say a 90 hp Yamaha 2 stroke, and a 90 hp Yamaha 4 Stroke?
    My understanding is imports stop as at 1 July this year, and they have 12 months to sell them. After that the initial post details applies.
    David.

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    Re: 2 stroke end in sight

    Some HP there is quite a weight difference, some not much at all.

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    Re: 2 stroke end in sight

    As an example, a new 70 4 stroke is only 120KG, the 3 cylinder 2 stroke is 123KG, in the 90HP, the 4 stroke is much heavier at around 160KG than the old 3 cylinder 90 2 stroke.

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    Re: 2 stroke end in sight

    Absolutely Noelm. Horses for courses. I would go a 4 stroke in a number of situations and a 2 stroke in others. I have to say I'm loving the Tohatsu 40hp 2 stroke oil injected that I have now. Very fuel efficient on the plane.
    Cheers



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    Re: 2 stroke end in sight

    Very true about different applications and which one is better in the eye of the beholder. I bought a 50hp oil injected Yamaha 2 stroke about a year ago to replace a tired 3 cylinder premix 50 Yamaha on an existing boat when the news first broke, and on that boat I wouldnít have anything else, certainly wouldnít have had a 4 stroke. But that isnít a 2 stroke vs 4 stroke argument totally, I think those 3 cylinder oil injected Yamahaís are a sweet motor. At the time I heard stock wasnít real high so Iím glad I got one at the time.

    Like wise I just replaced a 2 year old 2 stroke Yamaha 15 on the inflatable with a new 25 4 stroke, mainly because I got over mixing oil and more importantly itís at our holiday house and with other people using it, it would only be a matter of time before someone put fuel in without oil. That and Yamaha released a light enough 25 4 stroke that didnít need a battery. It is a pretty sweet motor too. Much like the old 15, also a really nice motor which I still have one in the shed ďjust in caseĒ but on that boat the 25 suits the application better.

    I donít really buy the nostalgia of the 2 strokes, though Their simplicity can often be appreciated in some locations. In saying that, with clean fuel I am yet to have any type of reliability issue with a 4 stroke, and thatís across 8 or nine engines. Though when I compare the 2 v 4 stroke in the Yamaha 50 of which I have had both I would take the 2 all day long, above that though itís purely 4 stroke territory for me.


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    Ausfish Bronze Member
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    Re: 2 stroke end in sight

    The old v4 evinrude 115ís I have will be staying on for as long as they are reliable, a 8hr drift fishing day at the banks I use 70l of fuel per side, cheap compared to 30k for new donks!


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