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  1. #1

    The most unreliable web page.

    Do other user's have trouble loading web pages on Ausfish or is only me? I have included some pics for admin to have a look at, but 6 times out of 10 the pages don't fully load when logging on. When clicking on a subject it won't open fully. I have to constantly refresh pages to make them load. I am using a desk top computer, window 7. All other web sites are running fine. I might add, the Ausfish web page has been clunky for years.

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  2. #2

    Re: The most unreliable web page.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gon Fishun View Post
    Do other user's have trouble loading web pages on Ausfish or is only me? I have included some pics for admin to have a look at, but 6 times out of 10 the pages don't fully load when logging on. When clicking on a subject it won't open fully. I have to constantly refresh pages to make them load. I am using a desk top computer, window 7. All other web sites are running fine. I might add, the Ausfish web page has been clunky for years.

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    Not seeing any issues from here. Load time is around 2 seconds, and I am in Vietnam with crap internet.

    I assume you are using Vocus as your ISP.

    Have you tried accessing pages through any other ISP?

    There was a problem with Bigpond and Cloudflare not long ago. Maybe Vocus has similar issues, but I don't know, will look further into it.


    Have you spoken to your ISP about it to see if they know why they can not deliver the site?


    Can you show me a traceroute to maybe see where the problem is?


    Go here http://network-tools.com/default.asp...ausfish.com.au

    It should look a bit like this
    1 15 0 0 XXX.XXX.XX.XXX -
    2 0 0 0 XXX.XXX.XX.XXX -
    3 0 0 0 64.124.196.225 xe-4-2-0.er2.dfw2.us.above.net
    4 24 24 24 62.115.55.201 dls-b21-link.telia.net
    5 0 0 0 62.115.44.2 cloudflare-ic-306332-dls-bb1.c.telia.net
    6 1 1 1 104.28.11.124 -
    Last edited by Ausfish; 13-11-2015 at 02:52 AM.

  3. #3

    Re: The most unreliable web page.

    Same here but only using chrome and just started a while ago, not the service provider because if shut down chrome and open IE pages load, you using chrome gon fishing?

  4. #4

    Re: The most unreliable web page.

    I think it's a feud between Chrome (Google) & Flash (Adobe) & Java (Oracle) causing it.

    Anyone getting odd black rectangles appearing in Chrome or bits of the top of a website page plastered further down the page?

  5. #5

    Re: The most unreliable web page.

    How it should look plus with black boxes and plastered artefacts.
    Attached Images Attached Images

  6. #6

    Re: The most unreliable web page.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunchy View Post
    Same here but only using chrome and just started a while ago, not the service provider because if shut down chrome and open IE pages load, you using chrome gon fishing?
    Yep, using Google Chrome and the service provider is iprimus.com.au


  7. #7

    Re: The most unreliable web page.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ausfish View Post
    Not seeing any issues from here. Load time is around 2 seconds, and I am in Vietnam with crap internet.

    I assume you are using Vocus as your ISP.

    Have you tried accessing pages through any other ISP?

    There was a problem with Bigpond and Cloudflare not long ago. Maybe Vocus has similar issues, but I don't know, will look further into it.


    Have you spoken to your ISP about it to see if they know why they can not deliver the site?


    Can you show me a traceroute to maybe see where the problem is?


    Go here http://network-tools.com/default.asp...ausfish.com.au

    It should look a bit like this
    1 15 0 0 XXX.XXX.XX.XXX -
    2 0 0 0 XXX.XXX.XX.XXX -
    3 0 0 0 64.124.196.225 xe-4-2-0.er2.dfw2.us.above.net
    4 24 24 24 62.115.55.201 dls-b21-link.telia.net
    5 0 0 0 62.115.44.2 cloudflare-ic-306332-dls-bb1.c.telia.net
    6 1 1 1 104.28.11.124 -


    Is this what you mean Steve? Iprimus is my service provider.

    202.136.40.35 is from Australia (AU) in region Oceana
    Input: www.iprimus.com.au
    canonical name: www.primus.com.au
    aliases:
    www.iprimus.com.au

    Registered Domain: primus.com.au

    TraceRoute from Network-Tools.com to 202.136.40.35 [www.primus.com.au]
    Hop (ms) (ms) (ms) IP Address Host name
    1 0 0 0 206.123.64.217 -
    2 Timed out Timed out Timed out -
    3 33 33 33 4.69.144.80 ae-2-70.edge1.losangeles6.level3.net
    4 33 32 33 4.69.144.80 ae-2-70.edge1.losangeles6.level3.net
    5 33 33 34 134.159.61.17 i-0-0-0-14-peer.tlot02.pr.telstraglobal.net
    6 32 31 31 202.84.253.17 i-0-4-0-9.tlot-core01.bi.telstraglobal.net
    7 207 206 206 202.84.249.42 i-0-1-0-32.sydo-core03.bx.telstraglobal.net
    8 207 206 208 203.50.13.97 bundle-ether3.oxf-gw11.sydney.telstra.net
    9 207 206 207 203.50.6.92 bundle-ether1.chw-core10.sydney.telstra.net
    10 222 223 222 203.50.11.125 bundle-ether8.exi-core10.melbourne.telstra.net
    11 220 220 220 203.50.11.112 bundle-ether1.lon-edge902.melbourne.telstra.net
    12 223 221 222 139.130.198.250 dod1518537.lnk.telstra.net
    13 224 224 224 123.2.3.178 be1-v427.bsr02.pmelnxd.vic.m2core.net.au
    14 223 223 224 122.151.0.38 38.0.151.122.sta.dodo.net.au
    15 Timed out Timed out Timed out -
    16 Timed out Timed out Timed out -


  8. #8

    Re: The most unreliable web page.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fed View Post
    I think it's a feud between Chrome (Google) & Flash (Adobe) & Java (Oracle) causing it.

    Anyone getting odd black rectangles appearing in Chrome or bits of the top of a website page plastered further down the page?
    Nope. Not getting any of that.


  9. #9

    Re: The most unreliable web page.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gon Fishun View Post
    Is this what you mean Steve? Iprimus is my service provider.

    202.136.40.35 is from Australia (AU) in region Oceana
    Input: www.iprimus.com.au
    canonical name: www.primus.com.au
    aliases:
    www.iprimus.com.au

    Registered Domain: primus.com.au

    TraceRoute from Network-Tools.com to 202.136.40.35 [www.primus.com.au]
    Hop (ms) (ms) (ms) IP Address Host name
    1 0 0 0 206.123.64.217 -
    2 Timed out Timed out Timed out -
    3 33 33 33 4.69.144.80 ae-2-70.edge1.losangeles6.level3.net
    4 33 32 33 4.69.144.80 ae-2-70.edge1.losangeles6.level3.net
    5 33 33 34 134.159.61.17 i-0-0-0-14-peer.tlot02.pr.telstraglobal.net
    6 32 31 31 202.84.253.17 i-0-4-0-9.tlot-core01.bi.telstraglobal.net
    7 207 206 206 202.84.249.42 i-0-1-0-32.sydo-core03.bx.telstraglobal.net
    8 207 206 208 203.50.13.97 bundle-ether3.oxf-gw11.sydney.telstra.net
    9 207 206 207 203.50.6.92 bundle-ether1.chw-core10.sydney.telstra.net
    10 222 223 222 203.50.11.125 bundle-ether8.exi-core10.melbourne.telstra.net
    11 220 220 220 203.50.11.112 bundle-ether1.lon-edge902.melbourne.telstra.net
    12 223 221 222 139.130.198.250 dod1518537.lnk.telstra.net
    13 224 224 224 123.2.3.178 be1-v427.bsr02.pmelnxd.vic.m2core.net.au
    14 223 223 224 122.151.0.38 38.0.151.122.sta.dodo.net.au
    15 Timed out Timed out Timed out -
    16 Timed out Timed out Timed out -

    I Primus are using Vocus by the looks of it, that is what it is showing when I trace your IP address.

    Hop (ms) (ms) (ms) IP Address Host name
    1 0 0 0 206.123.64.217 -
    2 Timed out Timed out Timed out -
    3 2 1 2 4.68.111.102 cogent-level3-6x10g.dallas1.level3.net
    4 2 2 2 154.54.7.45 be2031.ccr21.dfw01.atlas.cogentco.com
    5 12 12 12 154.54.3.134 be2432.ccr21.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com
    6 48 48 47 154.54.30.53 be2132.ccr21.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com
    7 48 48 48 154.54.28.34 be2164.ccr21.sjc01.atlas.cogentco.com
    8 48 48 47 154.54.1.162 be2063.rcr21.b001848-1.sjc01.atlas.cogentco.com
    9 63 63 63 38.122.92.2 -
    10 218 218 219 114.31.199.242 bundle-101.cor01.sjc01.ca.vocus.net
    11 204 204 205 114.31.199.59 bundle-100.cor02.sjc01.ca.vocus.net
    12 218 218 220 114.31.199.37 ten-0-5-0-0.cor01.syd04.nsw.vocus.net.au
    13 219 219 220 114.31.192.47 bundle-101.bdr04.syd03.nsw.vocus.net.au
    14 219 218 219 175.45.124.197 asn13335.cust.bdr04.syd03.vocus.net.au
    15 203 203 202 108.162.XXX.XXX -
    Trace complete




    At a quick look at that traceroute posted, you need to contact your ISP and have a chat to them. You are connected to them and getting time outs doing a traceroute to them. Does not seem right.

    See what they are finding. As suggested above, also try another browser and see if you are getting the same result. If so then definitely contact your ISP.


    Can you do a trace on ausfish.com.au and post up what you are getting This link http://network-tools.com/default.asp...ausfish.com.au




    This is what I get when I do a traceroute to iprimus.com.au

    1 0 0 0 206.123.64.217 -
    2 Timed out Timed out Timed out -
    3 36 33 33 4.69.144.80 ae-2-70.edge1.losangeles6.level3.net
    4 34 33 33 4.69.144.80 ae-2-70.edge1.losangeles6.level3.net
    5 33 33 33 134.159.61.17 i-0-0-0-14-peer.tlot02.pr.telstraglobal.net
    6 34 31 31 202.84.253.17 i-0-4-0-9.tlot-core01.bi.telstraglobal.net
    7 206 207 207 202.84.249.42 i-0-1-0-32.sydo-core03.bx.telstraglobal.net
    8 207 208 206 203.50.13.97 bundle-ether3.oxf-gw11.sydney.telstra.net
    9 208 207 207 203.50.6.92 bundle-ether1.chw-core10.sydney.telstra.net
    10 223 223 223 203.50.11.125 bundle-ether8.exi-core10.melbourne.telstra.net
    11 220 220 220 203.50.11.112 bundle-ether1.lon-edge902.melbourne.telstra.net
    12 221 221 221 139.130.198.250 dod1518537.lnk.telstra.net
    13 224 224 224 123.2.3.178 be1-v427.bsr02.pmelnxd.vic.m2core.net.au
    14 224 224 224 122.151.0.38 38.0.151.122.sta.dodo.net.au
    15 Timed out Timed out Timed out -
    16 Timed out Timed out Timed out -
    17 Timed out Timed out Timed out -
    18 Timed out Timed out Timed out -
    19 Timed out Timed out Timed out -
    20 Timed out Timed out Timed out -
    21 Timed out Timed out Timed out -
    22 Timed out Timed out Timed out -
    23 Timed out Timed out Timed out -
    24 Timed out Timed out Timed out -
    25 Timed out Timed out Timed out -
    26 Timed out Timed out Timed out -
    27 Timed out Timed out Timed out -
    28 Timed out Timed out Timed out -
    Trace aborted.
    Last edited by Ausfish; 13-11-2015 at 12:43 PM.

  10. #10

    Re: The most unreliable web page.

    Here is a link to Iprimus help on the matter http://www.iprimus.com.au/support/te...ific-websites/

    Their Facebook page has a couple of people complaining about load times as well.

    Maybe a phone call to them might resolve it.

    I will keep checking things at this end, but so far all looks good


    Video just taken of what the page is loading like for me

    Last edited by Ausfish; 13-11-2015 at 01:13 PM.

  11. #11

    Re: The most unreliable web page.

    Mr Ausfish,

    Please don't give advice where you are not an expert. They are not drop-outs. The routers that his path traverses do not have ICMP enabled, thus you get the *. No need to waste ISP support services on this. This is perfectly normal. I work at an ISP and my support staff get annoyed with these questions...

    I too have got the page not loading correctly, but a reload fixes it. However I can't track down the cause for this myself. Boys and Girls, just reload the page and be done with it, this will be a hard one to track down.

    --julian

  12. #12

    Re: The most unreliable web page.

    Quote Originally Posted by JulianDeMarchi View Post
    Mr Ausfish,

    Please don't give advice where you are not an expert. They are not drop-outs. The routers that his path traverses do not have ICMP enabled, thus you get the *. No need to waste ISP support services on this. This is perfectly normal. I work at an ISP and my support staff get annoyed with these questions...

    I too have got the page not loading correctly, but a reload fixes it. However I can't track down the cause for this myself. Boys and Girls, just reload the page and be done with it, this will be a hard one to track down.

    --julian
    As I said, "Maybe a phone call to them might resolve it." Not saying they are dropouts, just saying it looks odd. I cannot see anything here as it all looks OK from here.

    I cannot find anything from this end. There is a bit of talk on Facebook and Whirlpool about customers with similar problems of late so maybe a chat to them could shed some light on it. Always worth a try to talk to the ISP and see what they can find. Link to there website provided so can try that as well. Could also be a cloudflare issue as was the case recently with Bigpond.

    Your IP address and Gon Fishun's and Chrunchy's are similar so "maybe" that is why you are having the same problem?
    Are you using the same ISP?
    Last edited by Ausfish; 13-11-2015 at 02:35 PM.

  13. #13

    Re: The most unreliable web page.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ausfish View Post
    As I said, "Maybe a phone call to them might resolve it." Not saying they are dropouts, just saying it looks odd. I cannot see anything here as it all looks OK from here.

    I cannot find anything from this end. There is a bit of talk on Facebook and Whirlpool about customers with similar problems of late so maybe a chat to them could shed some light on it. Always worth a try to talk to the ISP and see what they can find. Link to there website provided so can try that as well. Could also be a cloudflare issue as was the case recently with Bigpond.

    Your IP address and Gon Fishun's and Chrunchy's are similar so "maybe" that is why you are having the same problem?
    Are you using the same ISP?
    I control my end all the way to the general internet. As I said, I work at an ISP and am using my own services to get to the internet. You're going down a dud path here(please listen Steve). The Vocus issue is not related. I do not route through Vocus, I peer with cloudfare via WIAX. Calling the ISP is not going to get anywhere except annoy them. I've had the issue occur from Optus and my own internet connections, but it's not a biggie, reload, all fixed.

    I can't narrow down the issues myself, it returns a 200 OK when the drama occurred. If I had to take a massive stab in the dark here, I'd point at cloudfares cache. However this is just a guess as I haven't found anything in my small amount of digging when it occurred.

  14. #14

    Re: The most unreliable web page.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ausfish View Post
    Are you using the same ISP?
    If Crunchy were a customer of mine, I'd be throttling his connection and having all sorts of fun...

  15. #15

    Re: The most unreliable web page.

    Quote Originally Posted by JulianDeMarchi View Post
    I control my end all the way to the general internet. As I said, I work at an ISP and am using my own services to get to the internet. You're going down a dud path here(please listen Steve). The Vocus issue is not related. I do not route through Vocus, I peer with cloudfare via WIAX. Calling the ISP is not going to get anywhere except annoy them. I've had the issue occur from Optus and my own internet connections, but it's not a biggie, reload, all fixed.

    I can't narrow down the issues myself, it returns a 200 OK when the drama occurred. If I had to take a massive stab in the dark here, I'd point at cloudfares cache. However this is just a guess as I haven't found anything in my small amount of digging when it occurred.
    Thanks for the info. Will check Cloudflare again. There was an issue with them and Bigpond not long ago and I had to turn off Cloudflare for a while, maybe a similar issue, but will also check Cloudflare Cache settings.

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