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    question about kayaking.....

    hi all
    kinda curious, cuz i've been fishing for long time and the thing i see and caught out there is kinda scary in nature... and for me, i like the idea of bigger the safer... i mean when u go fishing to zone of 100-200m depth it gets creepy and chilling
    well i'll get the most basic question out...

    where u store your catch? (for saltwater if it on the side like some of the youtube vid i've seen, wouldnt u just be shark food?)
    i notice some has sounder... there big enough for battery pack?
    what happen if u tip? u ever lost your ride?
    what happen if u snag?
    how do u handle 1m-1.5m barras or catches when it'll clearly just drag you without anchor? when i was in tinaroo a nice 19kg barra tooks us for a ride in a small punt for about 20mins before it gave up...

    well for freshwater kayaks isnt it risky when there maybe a present of crocs?
    and for hardcore saltwater kayaks isnt it scary when there jellyfish, crocs and sharks about? i see alot out at redcliff and all and i'm thinking there nuts... or have i been watching too man jaws movie and i got it all backwards?

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    Re: question about kayaking.....

    I use a Stealth Kayak (http://kayakspecialists.com.au/kayak...volution-range) for all my kayak fishing and fish exclusively offshore with it. They are designed, built and imported from South Africa which has a long history with fishing from skis due to their lack of suitable boat launching areas, they have a dedicated compartment inside the hull that is easily accessed and I store my catch and fishing gear within here as it is able to take fully rigged rods up to 7ft in length. This allows me to store all my gear in the hull and transit through the surf zone with a clear deck and if I do get rolled (happens regularly) then my gear is safe and dry.

    Personally I am not worried about what happens below the water, I don't really ever think about sharks but have seen a few, thankfully I have not been harassed by any as yet. For those that are concerned about them, there is an electronic device called a Shark Shield (https://www.sharkshield.com) and I believe these are quite effective. Crocs are a different kettle of fish and are not something to be taken lightly, personally you will never find me kayaking in known crocodile waters.

    Yes we get dragged around by our fish. I fish mostly for pelagic such as mackerel and tuna and have been taken on many a merry sleigh ride getting towed along at speeds up to 8kph, I usually hang my feet over the side to create a bit more drag to slow things up if they get out of control.

    I use a sounder and up until recently ran it off a small 7amp hour SLA battery, these are about the same size and weight as a house brick. I have recently just changed my power setup to a bank of 4 18650 batteries, these are just a bit bigger than a standard AA battery and provide about 3.4-3.6v each, so a significant weight and size saving. I get about 8 hours life running my Lowrance elite 5 sounder. I use a small garmin etrex hand held gps mounted in a cradle that has a suction cup mount, this is stuck on the top of my fish box lid.

    I have come off my kayak a number of times for various reasons, mostly in the surf zone, though have been tipped out by a strike on a rod in a holder that had too high a drag setting, this was about 3klm east of Double Island Point is some sloppy conditions. I am fairly proficient in remounting my kayak, it is something that I have practised and used time and again. It is advisable that all people that fish from kayaks be able to perform deep water re-entry, This is a skill that will save your life and one that I practise regularly. I have my paddle leashed to my yak, so if l come off, I just keep a hold of my paddle. Most times I fish with mates also, not just for company, but for an extra bit of safety as launching through the surf there has been more than one occasion where yaks and paddlers have been separated in a wipeout and we need to help each other either get to shore or collect a yak, but most times the yaks wash in to the beach.

    Snags can be painful at times, particularly if fishing heavier lines. I just try to get over the top of the snagged line and point the rod straight down the line, take up as much line as possible with the rod right down in the water, lock the spool off and try and bust it that way. When I fished the creeks more I always kept a lure retriever and this saved me quite a few hardbodied lures at times. But if all fails, well sometimes you just have to cut it and lose the line which is far from ideal for many reasons, but a bad snag can create a capsize risk for the young player, particularly in current or swell, once again this could be where your deep water re-entry skills come in to play, but I can guarantee 75% of kayakers you see on the water will not have practised this basic skill.

    Kayaks offer an excellent platform to fish from and areas like Redcliffe are the perfect yak fishing grounds as being able to be quiet on the water is probably their biggest advantage. We get some incredible fish, and guys are continually pushing new boundaries with excellent results, things like successfully targeting marlin from kayaks are almost becoming main stream for those willing to put in the time and the effort.

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    Re: question about kayaking.....

    A great reply.
    Safety & common sense are your 2 biggest assets.
    There are too many yakers out there who can't paddle properly and have had virtually no practice in deep water re-entry.
    Some yaks I've seen have so many things attached, it would be very difficult to get back on after a capsize.

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    interesting might have to try it out on the lakes first, maybe i'll lose some weight while i'm at it 2 bridy in 1 stone... maybe....

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    know any good 2 seat kayaks

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    Everybody should start in the creeks or lakes until they build their skills and confidence. I've seen plenty of cashed up superheroes buy the best of everything and get smashed in the surf time and again, it's not pretty, it has taken me quite a few years to be able to catch the fish that I do, and I still consider myself a novice.

    I don't really know of many good double yaks, you probably just need to accept the fact that kayaking is a selfish past time unless you are out with someone of similar ability that can keep up with you, then you are pretty much on your own.

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    I use a prowler ultra 4.7, so I keep my catch in an ice box at the rear of my kayak.

    My kayak is designed to install a sounder, so there is a moulded in space for a SLA battery. I use a fuse so if I flip, the unit itself should be ok.

    If you tip, it's inevitable that at some point you'll end up in the water. I've probably rolled 8 or 9 times in 10 years. The worst was Noosa bar, I've also rolled for no obvious reason on a very calm beach. Weird. I leash everything, so that nothing gets lost. Obviously everything will need a thorough clean when I get home - but at least I don't loose anything.

    My ice box is 1.1 meters long, so I should be good for most catches. If I'm targeting mackerel, then I take a purpose built fish cradle. A lot of fish bleed havily like tuna for example. So once I've caught anything good, I move 500 meters or so to get out of the way of any sharks lurking around. I found Moreton the worst for sharks, always getting big whalers coming up under me.

    Sharks usually "grope" you. That is, they just run their nose on the base of your kayak - and that's it. Once they've worked out your not part of their normal food chain, they just leave you alone. That said there's a great story of a guy in NZ who basicially did everything wrong and was stalked by a 5 meter great white for a few hours whilst snapper fishing. Really good photos if you google it.

    I'm not scared of sharks. They're out there. They own that part of the neighborhood, so at some point one may well have a go. If it does, I've got a knife, a gaff and a paddle. But the result will be pretty simple. The shark will win.

    As for crock's. I'm pretty cray cray. But I'd never paddle around those things. A croc will simply try and mate with your kayak. When that doesn't work - it'll just eat you and your kayak. Happens.
    Tight lines, Look Cool - Act Cool - Be Cool

    Ocean Kayak Prowler Elite 4.5 meter

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    Re: question about kayaking.....

    wow phoenix makes it sad... when it come down to a fight i guess, u might wanna consider wasp knife, really helps, save my life a few time adventuring in the cape but like you said grope is the problem i see going out there in a kayak

    ah the reason i refer to 2 seat, so i could take my kid with me for kicks, all he dose IPAD!!!! all day long, dam that 4yr old i wanna try get him to do something other then youtube

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    Nahh, the grope is fine. It's when the shark does a second take with teeth that point where I do a 5c, 50c.

    As I said, I'll fight with a knife, gaff and shove a paddle down it's throat if I have to.

    Mate, very few kayakers get taken by sharks. I suppose it does happen, and spend enough time on the water, you'll have a close encounter for sure. But it isn't what I loose sleep over.

    I take my 6 year old son and other times, my 4 year old daughter out on my 4.7. It can be a squeeze - but it's ok. My son is rapidly approaching a point where I could put him in his own kayak and know that as long as he's not too far from me, that he'll be fine. It's just finding the coin to make such a big purchase, because my daughter will just star at it, and say "so - where's mine dad?"
    Tight lines, Look Cool - Act Cool - Be Cool

    Ocean Kayak Prowler Elite 4.5 meter

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    Re: question about kayaking.....

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-0...-water/5932564

    the more it turns me off in ocean, LOL but gonna give it a go on the lake this week mostly at wivenhoe so if u see a newbie falling and turning for afew 100s time, that'll be me, come n say hi, lol

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