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  1. #31
    Ausfish Platinum Member gruntahunta's Avatar
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    Re: Wrong Wrong Wrong

    Have you ever seen or spoken to one of the pro fisherman on the Clarence river at Illuka? They sit for hours upon hours waiting for the mullet to come down the river. Row their boats out and fire their nets. Sometimes they get lots, some times they get zero.

    Once they shoot their net, that is it, as the fish will not be back so if they shoot at a small school they miss the big school. These blokes are not rich, they live a lonely life on the river edge. Once the mullet season has finished they have to net for bream just to feed their families. All this is forgotten about by some recreational fisherman, recreational says it all, it's for fun not your livelihood.

    I for one admire the skill, patience and dedication by these people and do not begrudge anyone making a living from a legal source. Legal being the operative word.


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  2. #32
    Ausfish Platinum Member gruntahunta's Avatar
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    Actually mullet are not to bad to eat when fresh.


    Dan[/QUOTE]



    Mullet are bloody good when cooked whole, like bream....lovely white flesh when fresn....beautiful


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  3. #33

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    Is your comment any less applicable da Jew man about other forms of professional gathering of bait species such as pilchards? Occasionally the humble pillie populations had to bounce back after a sickness swept through the schools, I can't recall if its happened recently but a few years ago it was a major concern. Wipe out a food source like the pillie and see what ecological effect you have on other species? So it comes back to sustainable harvesting, both mullet and pillie netting are regulated through gov authorities and these guys in the 1st instance will be commercially licensed to carry out their specialised method of harvesting. Not sure where all the harvest goes. Roe? Sushi in an overseas Japanese restaurant or Dutch rollmops, but I haven't fished a fresh slab of mullet for trag in ages, maybe we should start there and veto bait fishing all together . Ha! That will get your tongues wagging!

    Scalem

  4. #34

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    Gruntahunta

    Netters -Sitting for ages, lonely life !!!!!! Get a different job then
    Where talking about beachnetting/hauling where boats, jet skis and 4wd's are used, Oh and by the way they hardly never miss any when they run a net
    getting the whole school.

    Scalem

    You are spot on SUSTAINABLE
    But how can it be sustainable when the netters hit every school from Newcastle to Noosa. Technology today allows them to monitor schools and be ready
    when they arrive,nets out and then to the co-op.
    Ripping the food chain to pieces for roe for the Middle East and Asia Can anyone agree to that.
    Not talking about trag jew, mulloway to be more exact.
    Yes I agree with you over other forms of bait gathering.
    When was the last survey/report done into bait gathering by commercial fisherman?

    This is and always be a big issue to beachfishers.
    Historian/Collector of Old Sidecast Fishing Reels

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    Ausfish Platinum Member gruntahunta's Avatar
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    Da Jjew Man

    Maybe YOU should get a different pastime. What a stupid comment you made..


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  6. #36

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da-Jew-Man View Post
    Gruntahunta

    Netters -Sitting for ages, lonely life !!!!!! Get a different job then
    Where talking about beachnetting/hauling where boats, jet skis and 4wd's are used, Oh and by the way they hardly never miss any when they run a net
    getting the whole school.

    Scalem

    You are spot on SUSTAINABLE
    But how can it be sustainable when the netters hit every school from Newcastle to Noosa. Technology today allows them to monitor schools and be ready
    when they arrive,nets out and then to the co-op.
    Ripping the food chain to pieces for roe for the Middle East and Asia Can anyone agree to that.
    Not talking about trag jew, mulloway to be more exact.
    Yes I agree with you over other forms of bait gathering.
    When was the last survey/report done into bait gathering by commercial fisherman?

    This is and always be a big issue to beachfishers.
    Mate, the obvious inference is that you don't think that current practices ARE NOT sustainable, despite the fact that this form of mullet harvesting has been around for ages, even when Jesus said "guys, cast your nets on this side of the boat", and you guessed it, they were mullet! Only Joking But the point is, this form must be sustainable and when evidence would suggest otherwise, fisheries reduce catch quotas and buy back licenses, which we know has been happening in other areas of the commercial sector.

    In the string every school from Newcastle to Noosa is an unquantifiable use of the word every. There is no way you can prove that, we would all be staggered to know just how many fish every school of mullet represents, covering that amount of coastline real estate. Neither can you prove that they "get the whole School" unless you are in the water filming during an operation. Generalization needs testing as to its accuracy, and the only way to do that is to help get an accurate base line. If you don't think fisheries have an accurate base line and are concerned about it, start looking for risk assessment and scientific studies. Not enough recently done you say? Let's help fisheries establish a credible base line? Sound familiar? May have been easier to help with reef fish species, but Mullet which is not as much targeted species by recreational fishermen and we have a problem... we don't know and can't know if the bags of fish these guys are taking is sustainable except when we see them in operation, by our recreational understanding, that's a LOT OF FISH!

    Personally I am not repulsed by seeing these guys in action, as Gruntahunta has said, its these guys profession and conditions may not allow for a regular harvest from the beach. I don't know where technology comes into their methods other than a good pair of binoculars and a good knowledge of spotting a school according to reading the water and seeing colour change. Can you explain how technology allows them to be ready for their arrival?

    Scalem

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    I've all but given up on catching decent fish off the beach in winter. I could see the prop wash off the beach on the last new moon from a trawler, they come very very close to the beach at times. Then a beach hauler drove all the way along the beach spotlighting the surf including the gutter i was fishing. 3 blokes fishing in 2 locations for 1 shovelnose and a wobbegong. Fishing is my passion and Golf or Billiards is not going to replace it. Very disheartening for me personally to see the haulers active. Ben
    Last edited by BLOOEY; 25-05-2013 at 10:16 AM. Reason: grammar

  8. #38

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scalem View Post
    But the point is, this form must be sustainable and when evidence would suggest otherwise, fisheries reduce catch quotas and buy back licenses, which we know has been happening in other areas of the commercial sector.
    Scalem
    I know about the licence buy back Scalem, but where are Fisheries reducing catch quotas? Other than for us rec-anglers that is .
    Cheers

  9. #39

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    I think they could use those big ponds out the end of the Port of Brisbane as a fish farm!

    They could give people jobs and make a profit from the unused ponds.
    Then when they reclaim some space for the port they can move the ponds further out.

    Not only that but it is a Port!
    They have already proven to hold and keep snapper.

    I mean countries like Vietnam and Thailand use every thing they got, if a farmer has a dam he grows fish and catches frogs, if he has yard space he grows mushrooms in straw and sells them.

    Do a google on it and you will see the huge salt dams they have.



    Dan


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    I was wondering when the old"spotlighting" thing would come up, what a crock, Wobbygong from the beach? I also wonder why they use the same beach the next day, when all the fish for miles around have disappeared because of netting the day before !

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    How is the spotlighting thing a crock Noelm? I believe spotlights shined into the surf startle and scatter the fish to the deeper water. Yep Wobbegongs from the beach or is that a crock aswell? Ben

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLOOEY View Post
    How is the spotlighting thing a crock Noelm? I believe spotlights shined into the surf startle and scatter the fish to the deeper water. Yep Wobbegongs from the beach or is that a crock aswell? Ben
    BLOOEY it appears as you have been called out as a "wobbygong fibber"


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    Quote Originally Posted by MudRiverDan View Post
    BLOOEY it appears as you have been called out as a "wobbygong fibber"
    Haha! so it would seem dan! Must have imagined that 4by dragging the pro boat up the beach shining that 5billion candlepower spottie in the surf and my eyes too. Ben

  14. #44

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noelm View Post
    I was wondering when the old"spotlighting" thing would come up, what a crock, Wobbygong from the beach? I also wonder why they use the same beach the next day, when all the fish for miles around have disappeared because of netting the day before !
    As someone who's both line fished and speared from many a beach, there are an eff tonne of wobbies and shovels that inhabit the break zone. No lies from Ben, I'm afraid.

    Cuzza

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    Re: Wrong Wrong Wrong

    Wheres the pictures fellas. All this talk of Wobbygongs and no pics. Its all a bit hard to believe
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