View Poll Results: Is the LNP are doing a good job with policies relating to recreational fishing??

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Thread: Do you think the LNP is doing a good job in relation to policies affecting recreation

  1. #31

    Re: Do you think the LNP is doing a good job in relation to policies affecting recrea

    Quote Originally Posted by NAGG View Post
    Has the LNP actually introduced any fishing related policy that has been a benefit to fishoes ?

    I'm trying to establish how 5 people can vote that they are happy with the LNPs fishing policies -

    Chris
    There is always a section of any population who are so blinded by party allegiances they will always defend them even with mounting evidence against them. Happens on both sides of politics. The fact none of the 5 'yes voters' have come out to give the reasons why they hold this view shows they have no ammunition to defend the LNP on this question but are simply party hacks with blinkered vision.


  2. #32

    Re: Do you think the LNP is doing a good job in relation to policies affecting recrea

    Either that or donkey votes

    So be fair to the LNP (seeing I was accused of been one eyed).
    What policies do the LNP have in regards to recreational fishing?
    I intend on living for-ever....so far so good


  3. #33

    Re: Do you think the LNP is doing a good job in relation to policies affecting recrea

    Happy to point out the commitments that the LNP made wrt fishing should we be in government.
    1. $10 million net licence buyback. This commitment is underway.
    2. Marine infrastructure fund. To build more boat ramps, pontoons, artificial reefs etc. Applications to this fund are to my knowledge open
    3. In state waters, no new marine parks, no new Green zones, no expansion of current Green zones.
    4. Fairer Rec Fishing Access. While there was no election announcement to allow one line in Green zones, it is current LNP policy to allow one line in selected Green zones. I look forward to this policy being implemented in due course at the minister's initiative.

    I have found rec fishers to be generally happy with these points.

  4. #34

    Re: Do you think the LNP is doing a good job in relation to policies affecting recrea

    What do you mean by "selected" green zones. How many green zones are we talking about and who decides which ones.

  5. #35

    Re: Do you think the LNP is doing a good job in relation to policies affecting recrea

    Quote Originally Posted by Matty_M View Post
    Both Fishway teams are goooone….and as recreational fisherman and conservationists, you should be extremely angry and disappointed .

    The Fishway teams constructed fishways with NO Base funds from the government, sourcing funding from NON- GOVERNMENT organisations to remediate barriers to fish passage. The removal of the fishway teams does not save any Base funds, but equates to less fish for recreational, commercial and indigenous fishers.

    Fish migration is extremely important for recreational/commercial & indigenous fish species such as barramundi, sea mullet, eels and mangrove jack, which migrate into freshwater habitats to feed, grow and evade predators. Barriers prevent these species from completing their life-cycles and recruiting into the fishery………Not allowing these species to reach their preferred freshwater nursery habitats means less fish you guys…less fish for commercial fisherman….and less fish for the environment.

    Attached photo’s are of a small bypass rock ramp fishway built on a weir north of Rockhampton (external funding). The 2nd photo shows juvenile barramundi and tarpon sampled at the top of the fishway that had successfully migrated upstream.

    On average 1.22 barramundi per hour successfully migrated upstream through this fishway into important wetland nursery habitats. That roughly equates to 29.8 barramundi per day, 835 barramundi per month or 2,500 over 3 months, that would NOT have been able to migrate upstream without a fishway!!!

    Many fishways just like this WERE built through-out QLD. And they were all funded by non-government organisations.
    Quote Originally Posted by Matty_M View Post
    Hi Lovey80,

    This rock-ramp fishway cost approximately $30,000.
    I was funded by Fitzroy Basin Association (FBA) Natural Resource Management Group,who are based in Rockhampton.

    The vast majority of fishways through-out QLD are funded EXTERNALLY by NRM Groups.

    cheers
    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Robinson MP View Post
    Happy to point out the commitments that the LNP made wrt fishing should we be in government.
    1. $10 million net licence buyback. This commitment is underway.
    2. Marine infrastructure fund. To build more boat ramps, pontoons, artificial reefs etc. Applications to this fund are to my knowledge open
    3. In state waters, no new marine parks, no new Green zones, no expansion of current Green zones.
    4. Fairer Rec Fishing Access. While there was no election announcement to allow one line in Green zones, it is current LNP policy to allow one line in selected Green zones. I look forward to this policy being implemented in due course at the minister's initiative.

    I have found rec fishers to be generally happy with these points.
    Bloody hell. I have a feeling I've read Mark's post somewhere before. I must be getting senile.

    So Mark. I'm glad the LNP are committed to building more boat ramps, pontoons, artificial reefs etc.
    So please explain the reasoning as to why are both Fishway Teams gone?? Specifics would be great instead of the vague, very vague, statements normally given
    I intend on living for-ever....so far so good


  6. #36

    Re: Do you think the LNP is doing a good job in relation to policies affecting recrea

    Very interesting post Matty M. I don't really understand how all the funding works for these programs, but I take it from your post that it did not directly cost the government coffers to build these fishways?

    Then why would they think it was a good idea to cut these programs?

    It seems to me like it was more to do with politics and ideology than common sense.

    Either way, I'm not too interested in politics but I am interested in my fishing, and this just seems like a knee-jeck, backward decision from 30 years ago. Surely common sense, science and economics must all be on the same page here, fishways = fish migrating, fish growing and fish breeding = more rec. fish catches, more commercial fish catches and more $$$ generated through the economy all round.

    The thing that disappoints me is that rec. fishers are not more outraged in short sighted decisions like this that affects them directly. If you think decisions like this are wrong, your have to make a noise about it!!

  7. #37

    Re: Do you think the LNP is doing a good job in relation to policies affecting recrea

    Quote Originally Posted by Cod King View Post
    Very interesting post Matty M. I don't really understand how all the funding works for these programs, but I take it from your post that it did not directly cost the government coffers to build these fishways?

    Then why would they think it was a good idea to cut these programs?

    It seems to me like it was more to do with politics and ideology than common sense.

    Either way, I'm not too interested in politics but I am interested in my fishing, and this just seems like a knee-jeck, backward decision from 30 years ago. Surely common sense, science and economics must all be on the same page here, fishways = fish migrating, fish growing and fish breeding = more rec. fish catches, more commercial fish catches and more $$$ generated through the economy all round.

    The thing that disappoints me is that rec. fishers are not more outraged in short sighted decisions like this that affects them directly. If you think decisions like this are wrong, your have to make a noise about it!!
    It is way more than fishway teams gone..way way more. This Govt does not give a rats about rec anglers.

    Geeze..Campbell says all these cuts need to be done 'cos the State is broke yet he is going to knock down some Govt buildings and build new Pollies Palaces in William Street....sure are broke aren't we.
    Rip away services from the publis..rip away considerable amounts from rec fishing yet build ya palace.
    This mob are hell bent on destruction of services to Queenslanders.

    No wonder I dislike all political parties..all tarred with the same brush.

  8. #38

    Re: Do you think the LNP is doing a good job in relation to policies affecting recrea

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Robinson MP View Post
    Happy to point out the commitments that the LNP made wrt fishing should we be in government.
    1. $10 million net licence buyback. This commitment is underway.
    2. Marine infrastructure fund. To build more boat ramps, pontoons, artificial reefs etc. Applications to this fund are to my knowledge open
    3. In state waters, no new marine parks, no new Green zones, no expansion of current Green zones.
    4. Fairer Rec Fishing Access. While there was no election announcement to allow one line in Green zones, it is current LNP policy to allow one line in selected Green zones. I look forward to this policy being implemented in due course at the minister's initiative.

    I have found rec fishers to be generally happy with these points.
    yeah right..probably only the LNP card carrying ones. I know of at least 100 that aren't happy about the cuts when explained to them last weekend.

    I cannot say what I really want to say Mark as I would probably be facing a law suit.

  9. #39

    Re: Do you think the LNP is doing a good job in relation to policies affecting recrea

    I have no doubt Mark has sympathy with all those now unemployed thanks to can't, he also got well and truly shafted by the human headline.

    DoNotFeedTheTrollsAandBelligerent

  10. #40

    Re: Do you think the LNP is doing a good job in relation to policies affecting recrea

    Certainly does not seem to have got any worse from my point of view, unlike the last decade when the other mob were in control. my recollection of the last 5 or so years of labour was that every time a pollie spoke about fishing, i had to buy something new or catch less fish or not fish somewhere. as for the research funding and programs ( at the high likelyhood of upsetting a few good people on here ) I have yet to see the research programme that resulted in me having more access to fishing areas or being allowed to catch more fish so forgive me for not sheadding too many tears for those causes. for those who have a different opinion and want to wish me well .... thats the best thing about OZ your entitled to your view and I'm entitled to mine and it does matter if one of us is wrong.

    BTW I'm not an LNP supporter or voter, but i do know my fishing experience hasn't got worse yet under the LNP not something I could honsestly say about labour. thank the lord the greens didn't fire in the election cause I'm sure that would have affected my fishing experience for the worse.

    BigE

  11. #41

    Re: Do you think the LNP is doing a good job in relation to policies affecting recrea

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Robinson MP View Post
    Happy to point out the commitments that the LNP made wrt fishing should we be in government.
    1. $10 million net licence buyback. This commitment is underway.
    2. Marine infrastructure fund. To build more boat ramps, pontoons, artificial reefs etc. Applications to this fund are to my knowledge open
    3. In state waters, no new marine parks, no new Green zones, no expansion of current Green zones.
    4. Fairer Rec Fishing Access. While there was no election announcement to allow one line in Green zones, it is current LNP policy to allow one line in selected Green zones. I look forward to this policy being implemented in due course at the minister's initiative.

    I have found rec fishers to be generally happy with these points.
    With regard to #3 ....... how is not doing anything a positive outcome ? Now if you said reduced that would be something positive . I guess labor must have done the right thing in the LNPs eyes with regard to Green Zones & Marine Parks

    Chris
    Give a man a fish & he will eat for a day !
    Teach him how to fish
    & he will sit in a boat - & drink beer all day!
    TEAM MOJIKO

  12. #42

    Re: Do you think the LNP is doing a good job in relation to policies affecting recrea

    You missed a couple Mark

    The Newman Government's rec fishing score card so far

    1. $10 million net licence buyback. This commitment is underway. Actually it's still in the planning stage until October (and you forgot to say it's a totally voluntary scheme and it's actually $9 million not 10)
    2. Marine infrastructure fund. To build more boat ramps, pontoons, artificial reefs etc. Applications to this fund are to my knowledge open, though nothing started yet.
    3.In state waters, no new marine parks, no new Green zones, no expansion of current Green zones. Also no reduction of Green Zones (which you claimed were too big and in the wrong places when Labor introduced them)
    4.Fairer Rec Fishing Access. While there was no election announcement to allow one line in Green zones, it is current LNP policy to allow one line in selected Green zones. I look forward to this policy being implemented in due course at the minister's initiative. Policy????? Where does this "LNP policy" appear? Does it realy exist? It's not on any LNP or Fisheries web sites. Is this like the policy you were going to show us as soon as the election date was anounced?
    4. Cut all funding to the states fish tagging program. Completed
    5. Cut all funding to for Sunfish to run it's junior angler programs that get more kids into fishing. Completed
    6. Sack fisheries extension officers, Completed
    7. Sack aquaculture researchers in Qld Fisheries, Completed
    8. Sack Fisheries Industry Development staff, Completed
    9. Wind up the Fishways Program that works on building better fish ladders so our native freshwater can travel to breed, Completed
    10. Opened up a dialogue with Sunfish Qld about the introduction of a state wide Recreational Fishing Licence for Qld anglers. (Despite telling us before the election that the LNP had ruled out introducing a Recreational Fishing Licence) Idea mothballed

    I have found rec fishers to be generally happy with these points. ??????

    And don't forget that 2nd Brisbane casino that Qld anglers have been begging for. On the drawing board
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  13. #43

    Re: Do you think the LNP is doing a good job in relation to policies affecting recrea

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Delisser View Post
    You missed a couple Mark

    The Newman Government's rec fishing score card so far

    1. $10 million net licence buyback. This commitment is underway. Actually it's still in the planning stage until October (and you forgot to say it's a totally voluntary scheme and it's actually $9 million not 10)
    2. Marine infrastructure fund. To build more boat ramps, pontoons, artificial reefs etc. Applications to this fund are to my knowledge open, though nothing started yet.
    3.In state waters, no new marine parks, no new Green zones, no expansion of current Green zones. Also no reduction of Green Zones (which you claimed were too big and in the wrong places when Labor introduced them)
    4.Fairer Rec Fishing Access. While there was no election announcement to allow one line in Green zones, it is current LNP policy to allow one line in selected Green zones. I look forward to this policy being implemented in due course at the minister's initiative. Policy????? Where does this "LNP policy" appear? Does it realy exist? It's not on any LNP or Fisheries web sites. Is this like the policy you were going to show us as soon as the election date was anounced?
    4. Cut all funding to the states fish tagging program. Completed
    5. Cut all funding to for Sunfish to run it's junior angler programs that get more kids into fishing. Completed
    6. Sack fisheries extension officers, Completed
    7. Sack aquaculture researchers in Qld Fisheries, Completed
    8. Sack Fisheries Industry Development staff, Completed
    9. Wind up the Fishways Program that works on building better fish ladders so our native freshwater can travel to breed, Completed
    10. Opened up a dialogue with Sunfish Qld about the introduction of a state wide Recreational Fishing Licence for Qld anglers. (Despite telling us before the election that the LNP had ruled out introducing a Recreational Fishing Licence) Idea mothballed

    I have found rec fishers to be generally happy with these points. ??????

    And don't forget that 2nd Brisbane casino that Qld anglers have been begging for. On the drawing board
    That is a great post Mike. Looking forward to Mark Robinson's response to that but I suspect you willl not get one.

    I think the results of this small poll speak for themselves. I would say about 16% of rec fishers are happy with the LNP performance.

    The plan for a new Government building is sickening given the other cuts made.

  14. #44

    Re: Do you think the LNP is doing a good job in relation to policies affecting recrea

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Delisser View Post
    I have found rec fishers to be generally happy with these points. ??????
    Oi Mike. How hard do you reckon it'll be to organise a few anglers (about 100 will do) to meet with Mark (or anyone from LNP) and discuss if they're happy with these points?

    Great post BigE. At least things have not got any worse. True. So we should be grateful for that at least but the writing on the wall was we were going to get better access, facilities and the fisheries were going to improve (roughly speaking).
    I intend on living for-ever....so far so good


  15. #45

    Re: Do you think the LNP is doing a good job in relation to policies affecting recrea

    No news is good news apparently

    DoNotFeedTheTrollsAandBelligerent

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