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    Snapper Ban and Associated issues. merged threads

    Dr Mark Robinson MP
    Shadow Minister for Main Roads, Fisheries &
    Marine Infrastructure
    LNP Member for Cleveland


    17 June 2011

    Snapper bans - Wallace won’t rule more out

    LABOR’s Fisheries Minister Craig Wallace has refused to rule out more bans on snapper fishing.
    LNP Shadow Fisheries Minister Mark Robinson said Mr Wallace’s answer to a Question on Notice would bring little joy to Queensland recreational fishers, tourism and charter operators and bait and tackle shops.
    “Minister Wallace has refused to rule out more snapper bans – effectively saying watch this space,” Dr Robinson said.
    “By refusing to rule out more bans Mr Wallace has effectively confirmed that behind closed doors he’s again doing secret deals with the 'dangerous Greens' to sell out recreational fishing rights in Queensland.
    “Mr Wallace and his long-term Labor government are seriously considering snapper mega-bans of up to four months per year, every year,” Dr Robinson warned.
    Dr Robinson said the science on the snapper fishery was far from settled.

    “President of Queensland’s peak recreational fishing association, Sunfish, Dr Barry Pollock, disputes the claims of the Bligh government and dangerous Greens that snapper are overfished and that harsh bans are the only option.
    “A CanDo LNP government will do the science and protect our snapper stocks, while protecting the rights of rec fishers to fish sustainably.”

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    Re: Snapper Ban time: will Wally wimp out to the Greens ... what's your guess ???

    Well lets all pray that the LNP get it right this time round and don't shoot themselves in the foot.For whatever reason this just seems to culminate around election time.I wonder what the science was when we bagged out on snapper in one of of my personal spots when over the last 6yrs have never caught a legal snapper there,within the bay.I watch on with hand cupped eyes.Jim
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    Re: Snapper Ban time: will Wally wimp out to the Greens ... what's your guess ???

    Sounds like another dodgy deal with the grubby greens is happening simply to get greens preferences for the next election. Just like the last state election.

    It's amazing that the Greens, who don't even represent just one seat of the 89 in the Queensland parliament, can hold so much power over Labor.

    Isn't it possible to overturn or repeal stuff if the LNP get in?


    TOL

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    Re: Snapper Ban time: will Wally wimp out to the Greens ... what's your guess ???

    Quote Originally Posted by theoldlegend View Post
    Sounds like another dodgy deal with the grubby greens is happening simply to get greens preferences for the next election. Just like the last state election.

    It's amazing that the Greens, who don't even represent just one seat of the 89 in the Queensland parliament, can hold so much power over Labor.

    Isn't it possible to overturn or repeal stuff if the LNP get in?


    TOL
    Unlike this Labor govt, we will not be dictated to by the dangerous Greens Party about what our fishing policy will be. We continue to consult widely and will do the science properly so that the right decisions are made in a Newman govt. A CanDoQLD govt will put rec fishers ahead of politics.

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    Re: Snapper Ban time: will Wally wimp out to the Greens ... what's your guess ???

    Isn't it possible to overturn or repeal stuff if the LNP get in?


    TOL[/QUOTE]


    Thats the $64.00 isn't it ?. and a good one.

    Given Marks position and title within the party who better to confirm this can and will happen for all you folk up there.

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    Re: Snapper Ban time: will Wally wimp out to the Greens ... what's your guess ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Robinson MP View Post
    Dr Mark Robinson MP
    Shadow Minister for Main Roads, Fisheries &
    Marine Infrastructure
    LNP Member for Cleveland


    17 June 2011

    Snapper bans - Wallace won’t rule more out

    LABOR’s Fisheries Minister Craig Wallace has refused to rule out more bans on snapper fishing.
    LNP Shadow Fisheries Minister Mark Robinson said Mr Wallace’s answer to a Question on Notice would bring little joy to Queensland recreational fishers, tourism and charter operators and bait and tackle shops.
    “Minister Wallace has refused to rule out more snapper bans – effectively saying watch this space,” Dr Robinson said.
    “By refusing to rule out more bans Mr Wallace has effectively confirmed that behind closed doors he’s again doing secret deals with the 'dangerous Greens' to sell out recreational fishing rights in Queensland.
    “Mr Wallace and his long-term Labor government are seriously considering snapper mega-bans of up to four months per year, every year,” Dr Robinson warned.
    Dr Robinson said the science on the snapper fishery was far from settled.

    “President of Queensland’s peak recreational fishing association, Sunfish, Dr Barry Pollock, disputes the claims of the Bligh government and dangerous Greens that snapper are overfished and that harsh bans are the only option.
    “A CanDo LNP government will do the science and protect our snapper stocks, while protecting the rights of rec fishers to fish sustainably.”
    a couple of questions Mark.
    1. Does the LNP categorically rule out any snapper closures?
    2. What is the LNP's stance on existing green and yellow zones
    3. What isthe LNP 's stance on fishing/crabbing advisory committees
    4. What is the LNP's stance on maintenance of existing and new/upgrading of boat ramps. The ramp near the Power Boat Club at Caloundra is dangerous at anything below 1/4 tide.
    5. What is the LNP stance on the existing SIP scheme.
    6. What is the LNP stance of recreational fishing licenses.
    7. What is the LNP stance on fisheries inspectors. There needs to be more inspectors and vigilant inspections at all times..there is the start of a sustainable fishery..constant policing of current regs.
    7.

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    Re: Snapper Ban time: will Wally wimp out to the Greens ... what's your guess ???

    and just a little point..the heading.."will Wally"...the general public is sick and tired of the name calling etc. Andrew Fraser is no better lately in his little man attacks on Campbell Newman..it really does nothing to inprove our outlook on politicians. Craig or Mr Wallace would be much better. He is a Minister of the Crown..you may not like the man personally but you must respect the position..that is what our democracy is based on. Is the ALP's stance of fishing etc being driven by the Greens or the ALP's own Left faction of which Anna Bligh is a member.

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    Re: Snapper Ban time: will Wally wimp out to the Greens ... what's your guess ???

    Quote Originally Posted by PinHead View Post
    a couple of questions Mark.
    1. Does the LNP categorically rule out any snapper closures? ( NO, the LNP has stated it will act on the advice of the science... independent peer reviewed science )
    2. What is the LNP's stance on existing green and yellow zones ( review asap )
    3. What is the LNP 's stance on fishing/crabbing advisory committees ( the Draft Plan will take of these . But input from stakeholder groups will always be sought )
    4. What is the LNP's stance on maintenance of existing and new/upgrading of boat ramps. The ramp near the Power Boat Club at Caloundra is dangerous at anything below 1/4 tide. ( ramps are a state and local government item..... look into that one )
    5. What is the LNP stance on the existing SIP scheme. ( works well, no change other to include ALL impoundments, some are run by private utilities and they will not contribute to stocking )
    6. What is the LNP stance of recreational fishing licenses. ( not interested, under advisement )
    7. What is the LNP stance on fisheries inspectors. There needs to be more inspectors and vigilant inspections at all times..there is the start of a sustainable fishery..constant policing of current regs. ( certainly, if the draft plan requires that policing needs upgrading, it will be done within budgetary constraints )
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    I won't speak for Mark here, but will add comment.

    ECOFishers Qld, have been in contact with the LNP and ALP with regard to what we ( as a representative group ) feel needs to be addressed as far as recreational fishing in Queensland is concerned.

    Currently ( in another thread in the NEWS forum ), there is a Draft Plan having it's final touches done and will be made available to the public, hopefully around Xmas.

    This document will cover most points raised and more, but further, Sunfish and ECOFishers have supplied the LNP with a policy advisory statement, in which we outlined ideas and ideals for rec fishing in Qld.

    I have put in red above , responses that I believe the LNP has been advised of.

    To really manage the fishery in Queensland, any Government has to consider all aspects of recreational fishing. This includes what happens above the water and below, rivers, creeks and landbased development and agriculture practices.

    I wish it were as simple as putting forward a good idea and have it implemented.

    I believe....... Snapper bans WILL happen. How long for and how many and when ???????

    Guess....

    1. a period when they are possibly spawning

    2. NOT in school holidays time


    Worst case senario.......... a few bait and tackle shops and charter operators will fold. NO compensation will be offered.

    ALL IMO.....only.



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    Re: Snapper Ban time: will Wally wimp out to the Greens ... what's your guess ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky_Phill View Post
    I won't speak for Mark here, but will add comment.

    ECOFishers Qld, have been in contact with the LNP and ALP with regard to what we ( as a representative group ) feel needs to be addressed as far as recreational fishing in Queensland is concerned.

    Currently ( in another thread in the NEWS forum ), there is a Draft Plan having it's final touches done and will be made available to the public, hopefully around Xmas.

    This document will cover most points raised and more, but further, Sunfish and ECOFishers have supplied the LNP with a policy advisory statement, in which we outlined ideas and ideals for rec fishing in Qld.

    I have put in red above , responses that I believe the LNP has been advised of.

    To really manage the fishery in Queensland, any Government has to consider all aspects of recreational fishing. This includes what happens above the water and below, rivers, creeks and landbased development and agriculture practices.

    I wish it were as simple as putting forward a good idea and have it implemented.

    I believe....... Snapper bans WILL happen. How long for and how many and when ???????

    Guess....

    1. a period when they are possibly spawning

    2. NOT in school holidays time


    Worst case senario.......... a few bait and tackle shops and charter operators will fold. NO compensation will be offered.

    ALL IMO.....only.



    Cheers

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    I have just got back online and seen steeler/pinhead/Lucky Phill comments. In short for now (it is late), some measures may be able to be changed - either by immediate review or allowing reviews to run their current course. Phill's answers for the other questions are generally in the right direction, but we have not yet finalised and formalised all of our fishing policies. We are still in our consultation process and will announce policies as we get closer to the election.
    Mark

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    Re: Snapper Ban time: will Wally wimp out to the Greens ... what's your guess ???

    don't you just love politics, we could also have this headline:


    LNP Shadow Fisheries Minister Mark Robinson has refused to rule out bans on snapper fishing.


    what is the difference?

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    Re: Snapper Ban time: will Wally wimp out to the Greens ... what's your guess ???

    Quote Originally Posted by PinHead View Post
    don't you just love politics, we could also have this headline:


    LNP Shadow Fisheries Minister Mark Robinson has refused to rule out bans on snapper fishing.


    what is the difference?
    agree with pinhead. in my opinion, before getting stuck into the opposition on there policies you should have your own in place. regards, tony.

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    Re: Snapper Ban time: will Wally wimp out to the Greens ... what's your guess ???

    Ya know why pollies will never make good salespeople, there to busy knocking the competition rather than educating and enlightening us on there own positives.

    Its all so sad but thankfully the electorate is starting to wake up to this negative politics BS.

    DoNotFeedTheTrollsAandBelligerent

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    Re: Snapper Ban time: will Wally wimp out to the Greens ... what's your guess ???

    Quote Originally Posted by PinHead View Post
    don't you just love politics, we could also have this headline:


    LNP Shadow Fisheries Minister Mark Robinson has refused to rule out bans on snapper fishing.


    what is the difference?
    Unlike the Bligh Labor govt, the LNP has no plans to introduce snapper bans.

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    Re: Snapper Ban time: will Wally wimp out to the Greens ... what's your guess ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Robinson MP View Post
    Unlike the Bligh Labor govt, the LNP has no plans to introduce snapper bans.
    So Mark

    What happens if the science (revised / reviewed) ..... points to there being a problem with snapper stocks ?


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    Re: Snapper Ban time: will Wally wimp out to the Greens ... what's your guess ???

    Quote Originally Posted by NAGG View Post
    So Mark

    What happens if the science (revised / reviewed) ..... points to there being a problem with snapper stocks ?


    Chris
    Not speaking for Mark.

    But,

    It is ECOfishers proposed policy ( which may be undertaken by the LNP ) that, if the Peer reviewed, independent science says there is an issue / problem, then all steps and suggestions to address the issue will be taken.

    No point putting our head in the sand if there are problems.

    I, personally, believe we need to address any problem within any area of the fishery as soon as possible with the right solutions based on good research and advice.

    Rec fishos have been calling for the right science for years now, if we get that science we can only get behind it.


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