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    Suzuki DF140 Intermittent RPM Drop

    Hi All,

    I have a KC2400 with 3 year old Suzuki DF 140's on it. The Starboard engine is fine but the port engine drops RPM suddenly every 3 or 4 minutes. Originally this problem only occured a few months ago with the rpm above 5000. The rpm would rapidly drop off to about 3000rpm for a second or two and then rapidly recover again. But now it's doing it at rpms around or above 4300 and dropping back to about 2000rpm. Only for about a second or two and then recovers quickly. It's a major pain as now it's the rpm I want to cruise at. Between about 4000 and 4100 it is OK.

    To me it seems like a fuel delivery problem, vapour lock, water, blocked filter, kinked fuel hose but I can't find anything obvious. I've had a talk to the mobile mechanic I use and he had a list of things to do including swap the batteries over and place your hand over the fuel tank filler and see if there is an air lock when it's doing it. Always been too rough to do that!

    Was wondering if anyone has had a similar problem with a Suzuki or any other brand.

    Thanks, Scotty.

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    Re: Suzuki DF140 Intermittent RPM Drop

    Sounds like some sort of limp mode, over heat sensor, water pressure sensor or similar being faulty.

    Find out where they are on your motor and swap them over on your good motor and track down which one you need to replace.

    Cheers.
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    Re: Suzuki DF140 Intermittent RPM Drop

    Thanks RasGuts, hadn't thought of that one. Never been any warning lights or "beeps" but I guess it could be that.
    If I cant find something obvious by Monday I'm taking the boat up to the dealer at Noosa and getting the diagnostic gear hooked up while we take it for a run, so I might leave that one to them and suggest it.
    To me it still seems like it should be something obvious with the fuel delivery.

    Forgot to mention too, it doesn't seem to do it until sitting at 4300rpm for 10 or 15 minutes. I guess everything is nice and warm then!

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    Re: Suzuki DF140 Intermittent RPM Drop

    Mirage,

    I hvae seen the knock sensor do this on the modern 4 stroke to guard againt poor fuel quality it retards the timing which pulls rpm out of the engine.. and sudenly too.

    Other wise you would be looking at a fuel supply issue. best way would be to run it on a portable fuel tank (use 98 octane to give the best possible chance of keeping the knock sensor happy) Do this to Isolate the problem to either the boat or the engine.

    Water in the fuel will also pull rpm out of the engine so I would drain the vapor seperator and ensure all other filters are free from water.

    Also for the price of a new set of plugs I would throw them in as well. BKR6E for your engine.
    cheers
    Garry

    Retired Honda Master Tech

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    Re: Suzuki DF140 Intermittent RPM Drop

    Thanks very much Garry. Never heard of the knock sensor.
    Yeah the rpm drop is Very sudden. There is no sign of water in the filter but I'll check it again.
    Scotty.

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    Re: Suzuki DF140 Intermittent RPM Drop

    Sounds electrical - like it may be dropping a cylinder.

    Start with the simple stuff - spark plug / leads. I had a Suzuki four that suddenly dropped rpms when taken above 4000rpm when warm. Turned out to be a faulty spark plug.

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    Re: Suzuki DF140 Intermittent RPM Drop

    Maybe get your engine into the Suzuki service centre and have them do a computer download for a diagnostic for you? Yes its dollars; but if it sorts it out then your a happy camper a lot quicker.

    Why Not

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    Re: Suzuki DF140 Intermittent RPM Drop

    Quote Originally Posted by Why Not View Post
    Maybe get your engine into the Suzuki service centre and have them do a computer download for a diagnostic for you? Yes its dollars; but if it sorts it out then your a happy camper a lot quicker.

    Why Not
    Yes that is an option but there is a mirid of faults that do not show up on an ECU

    Generally if a sensor is out of range you will get an allarm I don't think he is gettin an alarm so most likely it wont show up on the ECU/laptop.
    Garry

    Retired Honda Master Tech

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    Re: Suzuki DF140 Intermittent RPM Drop

    I have 115 suzukis & occasionally have a similar issue when the boat has been sitting for a while until the fuel line is bled of air. you may be sucking air.
    cheers

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    Re: Suzuki DF140 Intermittent RPM Drop

    Or is it one of those mongrel resistor type plugs just beginning to break down?

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    Re: Suzuki DF140 Intermittent RPM Drop

    Thanks everyone for your replies. Spark plugs are another one I haven't thought of, will ask the question on them!
    Anyway, going up to Noosa tomorrow morning and try and get it sorted. Will let you know if anything was found.
    Scotty.

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    Re: Suzuki DF140 Intermittent RPM Drop

    Forgot to add, I checked again today. Definately no water in the tank and no pressure lock in the fuel tank!

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    Re: Suzuki DF140 Intermittent RPM Drop

    Check fuel lines for any kniks or collapses hose also check fuel primer bulb could be collapsing internally

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    Re: Suzuki DF140 Intermittent RPM Drop

    Thanks Julian, After all the trouble shooting turns out it was the primer bulb!! Learn something new every day!!
    Scotty.

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    Re: Suzuki DF140 Intermittent RPM Drop

    Quote Originally Posted by mirage View Post
    Thanks Julian, After all the trouble shooting turns out it was the primer bulb!! Learn something new every day!!
    Scotty.

    No worries Scotty glad to be of assistance, sometimes itcan be the simple things that can take ages to fault find !!

    cheer's

    Julian

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