Noble Super V vs AMM Tournament series

[Redhunter]

Hi fatenhappy
Ive been in many plate boats in the six meter class ranging from badgecraft, stebie craft, profish, jbs, fisher, riptide, amm, vindicator, barcrusher and the list goes on, without a doubt the supervee wins hands down on ride with two other boats in this list that come very close.
I too had my heart set on a super vee but the problem was they were just so darn dear. When ben was running the business down at clontorf you could not have met a nicer bloke, however I must say that after seeing one of the super vees at the boat show I was very disappointed with the build quility compared to when ben was building them in oz, just my thoughs.
regards Steve

[Jarrah Jack]

Looking like a super vee design built by AMM might do the trick.

PS.My sister lives in Dubai, has own driver and maid etc... no wonder you are fatenhappy.

[yknot.com]

I have had a 6.4 amm and about to up grade to 7.4. experence dealing with amm boys and their product I would not think about going with anything else.

[John_R]

Looking like a super vee design built by AMM might do the trick.

Well I have an Aussie Built Noble - it's awesome. Last time I looked, the Chinese ones don't look too bad either.

[Fatenhappy]

Hi fatenhappy
Ive been in many plate boats in the six meter class ranging from badgecraft, stebie craft, profish, jbs, fisher, riptide, amm, vindicator, barcrusher and the list goes on, without a doubt the supervee wins hands down on ride with two other boats in this list that come very close.
I too had my heart set on a super vee but the problem was they were just so darn dear. When ben was running the business down at clontorf you could not have met a nicer bloke, however I must say that after seeing one of the super vees at the boat show I was very disappointed with the build quility compared to when ben was building them in oz, just my thoughs.
regards Steve

So Steve .... got me curious now ... which are the other two?

[Fatenhappy]

Looking like a super vee design built by AMM might do the trick.

PS.My sister lives in Dubai, has own driver and maid etc... no wonder you are fatenhappy.

Thanks JJ ..... Naaaa! ... You could do that or like me you can be a tight ass and save the dosh then also put that towards the new rig when I get back to OZ .... ... I know which I'd rather do .....

[bigjimg]

I looked at the range of Nobles at Cunnighams today,and I have a very critical eye,looked pretty average the finish of them.Never rode in one but did ride in a Pacific Sportfish,it was okay the usual slap slap,rode in a 5.2 CC AMM bullet proof boat but as expected did lift a bit of spray.If it were me I would go the AMM at least they are here and easy to claim warranty if need be.Some of the welds on the Nobles looked a bit,lets say 'over worked',to make them look pretty.Paint job looked thin as well and dull.Jim

[yknot.com]

noble great boat but very ordinary company history !!!!

[Redhunter]

Hi fatenhappy
Ive been in many plate boats in the six meter class ranging from badgecraft, stebie craft, profish, jbs, fisher, riptide, amm, vindicator, barcrusher and the list goes on, without a doubt the supervee wins hands down on ride with two other boats in this list that come very close.
I too had my heart set on a super vee but the problem was they were just so darn dear. When ben was running the business down at clontorf you could not have met a nicer bloke, however I must say that after seeing one of the super vees at the boat show I was very disappointed with the build quility compared to when ben was building them in oz, just my thoughs.
regards Steve

So Steve .... got me curious now ... which are the other two?

Yeh mate the other two that i found pretty close were fisher and riptide.
The super vee rides better in a head sea but the fisher and riptide are a bit more stable at rest and ride a bit better in a following sea.
Some people may think that a riptide with 16 deg at the transom may not perform
all that well but i can tell you they perform very good.
If you look at the front of the rip tide it has a very sharp nose, the trik is to keep the trim tabs down hard and to keep the hull in the water.
Good luck with your choice.
Regards Steve

[Fatenhappy]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fatenhappy
Hi fatenhappy
Ive been in many plate boats in the six meter class ranging from badgecraft, stebie craft, profish, jbs, fisher, riptide, amm, vindicator, barcrusher and the list goes on, without a doubt the supervee wins hands down on ride with two other boats in this list that come very close.
I too had my heart set on a super vee but the problem was they were just so darn dear. When ben was running the business down at clontorf you could not have met a nicer bloke, however I must say that after seeing one of the super vees at the boat show I was very disappointed with the build quility compared to when ben was building them in oz, just my thoughs.
regards Steve

So Steve .... got me curious now ... which are the other two?

Yeh mate the other two that i found pretty close were fisher and riptide.
The super vee rides better in a head sea but the fisher and riptide are a bit more stable at rest and ride a bit better in a following sea.
Some people may think that a riptide with 16 deg at the transom may not perform
all that well but i can tell you they perform very good.
If you look at the front of the rip tide it has a very sharp nose, the trik is to keep the trim tabs down hard and to keep the hull in the water.
Good luck with your choice.
Regards Steve

Thanks Steve .... appreciated ....

[Horto22]

If its smooth ride your after is and alloy boat the 800 Fisher Maxi take alot of beating. The 800 maxi has 23 deg dead rise but unlike its smaller sibblings it has a double chine that allows the entry to be pulled in real fine without leaving a large (150-200mm) chine up fornt to slap into larger wave faces. Every other alloy boat that Ive seen that runs this kind of deadrise (Stabicraft 23 deg) Noble Super V 24 deg, and AMM to a lesser degree with ther 20 deg hull, all have really wide shoulders or chines up front. The Fisher 800 maxi has a conventional chine approx 100mm wide down near the water line and a second higher chine approx 75mm wide approx 450 above the lower chine. Not only does this provide a very fine and soft entry it also make for a very dry boat as the second chine helps deflect water that passes the lower chine on bigger waves-chop.

I am lucky enough to co own one with my two brothers and we have comfortable outpaced many a quality boat both glass & alloy on the run back in to Portland & Bermagui. On our last trip to Portland we motored back in at 30-32 Knots in 1-1.5m chop completeing the trip in 70 min and beat back all the charter boats. Our fishing buddy in his 6.0m seafarer took 110 min to do the same trip as he could only manage around 18 knot.


I have found that unless you do a side by side comparison in the same seas it is almost impossible to compare boats., as most skippers will push the hull to the same comfort point so the sensation can feel very similar. The better boat will just be travelling much quicker for the same given comfort level.

So if a smooth ride is what your after in a alloy boat the extra lenght, weight(6mm bttm, 5mm sides) and unique hull design of the Fisher 800 Maxi make it one impressive ride, and worth consideration.

Cheers Horto

[Fatenhappy]

Thanks Horto much appreciated and will most definitely have a close look .... 8 to 9 metres is definitely towards my upper limit for size I mean! ... no decki as such available so I will have to do everything

What power plant are you running ... and in single or twins ? ...

Any chance of some photos ??

[Horto22]

We have a single 300 suzuki which works really well. Our boat "Fat Chance" is featured on the Fisher Web site

http://www.fisherboats.com.au/boats-...nd-ms-800.html

Its a big trailer boat and you will need to put it on a alloy trailer to just get it in under 3500KG.

Cheers Horto

[Fatenhappy]

Thanks Horto ... I do recall it now, having had a squizz on their their web site .... but will have another look!

Whether its wishful thinking or not, this (next) time round for the boat, we're wanting to make the base on the waters edge somewhere, if its at all possible.

Not that I mind the towing in fact quite the opposite, especially when being able to visit different venues further a field etc....... ..... The upside of this is that we can negate the costs involved with a tow vehicle and trailer altogether ..... ..... so we'll have to see how it pans out! ....