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Thread: Trialing new F70 Yamahas on my 5.2m Kevlacat

  1. #76

    Re: Trialing new F70 Yamahas on my 5.2m Kevlacat

    Quote Originally Posted by Danf View Post
    Are your motors Xlong 25 inch? Also, I should ask about trailer axles. Mine are the factory Alko rubber torsion style, which I would like to replace. I have to decide whether to go with the same or convert to leaf spring.
    I rang alco in brisbane last year to ask about doing the same. It worked out at $1350 from hub to hub per axle. Worth it just to be able to bolt off bolt on in my books

    Edit: I believe mine are the originals since 1998 and I have no fear of them rusting through at this point but after 18 years I am worried that the rubbers may flog out soon so will replace them.
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  2. #77

    Re: Trialing new F70 Yamahas on my 5.2m Kevlacat

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovey80 View Post
    I rang alco in brisbane last year to ask about doing the same. It worked out at $1350 from hub to hub per axle. Worth it just to be able to bolt off bolt on in my books

    Edit: I believe mine are the originals since 1998 and I have no fear of them rusting through at this point but after 18 years I am worried that the rubbers may flog out soon so will replace them.
    They get completely submerged during a launch, they fill with salt water and you can not judge how much corrosion is going on inside.
    At least with springs, you get a better idea and you can wash them easier.
    But, at the end of the day, it is an easier retrofit.

  3. #78

    Re: Trialing new F70 Yamahas on my 5.2m Kevlacat

    Quote Originally Posted by Danf View Post
    They get completely submerged during a launch, they fill with salt water and you can not judge how much corrosion is going on inside.
    At least with springs, you get a better idea and you can wash them easier.
    But, at the end of the day, it is an easier retrofit.
    I had that fear also a couple of years back. When I rang Alko they said that they have never had an axle back in rusted out before the rubber eventually went. Considering these are going on 18 years now and haven't rusted out (though by the look of them you would think they are ready) I wouldn't worry about the corrosion. I am thinking though that when I replace them I may put a hose fitting in the top to be able to quickly flush them out from the inside easier.
    Democracy: Simply a system that allows the 51% to steal from the other 49%.

  4. #79

    Re: Trialing new F70 Yamahas on my 5.2m Kevlacat

    Interesting thread. How much does a typical 5.2KC hull weigh? I ask because I have a 5.2 Devilcat that weighs about 1100 kgs that I have to repower and was thinking that 70hp 4s would be too small for it but reading the tread maybe it's an option.
    Originally most 5.2 Devils were powered by Yammie 90hp 2s and I was thinking 90hp 4s Sea Pro Mercs or 115hp 4s Counter rotating Sea Pro's but was concerned with the weight. Any thoughts? 70hp's are cheaper than 90/115hp.

  5. #80

    Re: Trialing new F70 Yamahas on my 5.2m Kevlacat

    Heres a few pics of mine,
    happened 800km from home.. wasn't pretty
    Had to use a ratchet strap around both front arms to stop the wheels faling out all together.
    When it was removed the front right fell off onto the road at Rocky..lol
    Alko axle.jpg
    alko axle2.jpg
    alxo axle 3.jpg

  6. #81

    Re: Trialing new F70 Yamahas on my 5.2m Kevlacat

    Good looking boat (not so good looking axle) just thinking about selling my centre console cat and looking for a late model Sharkcat like that, either with pods or without

  7. #82

    Re: Trialing new F70 Yamahas on my 5.2m Kevlacat

    Quote Originally Posted by Flex View Post
    Heres a few pics of mine,
    happened 800km from home.. wasn't pretty
    Had to use a ratchet strap around both front arms to stop the wheels faling out all together.
    When it was removed the front right fell off onto the road at Rocky..lol
    Alko axle.jpg
    alko axle2.jpg
    alxo axle 3.jpg
    That's what worries me about not being able to see inside the axle tube where the rubbers are.

  8. #83

    Re: Trialing new F70 Yamahas on my 5.2m Kevlacat

    Quote Originally Posted by Mupster View Post
    Interesting thread. How much does a typical 5.2KC hull weigh? I ask because I have a 5.2 Devilcat that weighs about 1100 kgs that I have to repower and was thinking that 70hp 4s would be too small for it but reading the tread maybe it's an option.
    Originally most 5.2 Devils were powered by Yammie 90hp 2s and I was thinking 90hp 4s Sea Pro Mercs or 115hp 4s Counter rotating Sea Pro's but was concerned with the weight. Any thoughts? 70hp's are cheaper than 90/115hp.
    I can not remember the weight of the Kevlacat, but I am pretty sure it is under 1000 kg.

  9. #84

    Re: Trialing new F70 Yamahas on my 5.2m Kevlacat

    Quote Originally Posted by Noelm View Post
    Good looking boat (not so good looking axle) just thinking about selling my centre console cat and looking for a late model Sharkcat like that, either with pods or without
    Thanks Noelm,
    Had the boat out a few times now. Goes fantastic I must say. I'm lead to believe the non-podded version rides a smidge better? Ive never been in one so cant comment.
    But the extra deck space is fantastic and well worth it, if a little wet atm with 115's

  10. #85

    Re: Trialing new F70 Yamahas on my 5.2m Kevlacat

    Flex was that a result of the rubbers flogging out or did it rust through?
    Democracy: Simply a system that allows the 51% to steal from the other 49%.

  11. #86

    Re: Trialing new F70 Yamahas on my 5.2m Kevlacat

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovey80 View Post
    Flex was that a result of the rubbers flogging out or did it rust through?
    Rubbers were fine.
    If you look at the top pic closely you will see the arm that gets pressed into the axle/rubber has a sort of stub axle attached to it. maybe 300mm long or so.
    This is what was rusted away totally and caused the wheels to fall off..lol.
    Also the inside of the actualy axle itself was fairly rusted.

    before I drove away it didn't look to bad from the outside.

  12. #87

    Re: Trialing new F70 Yamahas on my 5.2m Kevlacat

    How old was the trailer when that happened?
    Democracy: Simply a system that allows the 51% to steal from the other 49%.

  13. #88

    Re: Trialing new F70 Yamahas on my 5.2m Kevlacat

    No doubt the 70 yammy is different to the 60 however I believe there is no replacement for displacement. At 1 litre (60 yammy is the same) the 70 yammy is half a litre behind the zuke. I see the rev limiter is 6300 rpm on the 70 yammy vs 6000 rpm on the 60 yammy. My concern is the extra 10hp is being achieved in the last 300 rpm which no one will ever use but technically it's legit on paper as far as Yamaha is concerned. Anyway that's my 2 cents of uneducated opinion haha.

  14. #89

    Re: Trialing new F70 Yamahas on my 5.2m Kevlacat

    From memory the salesman who just sold us an F70 said the F60 produces 60 hp at 5600 and the F70 hp is at 5800. I think I read that somewhere also.

    TMC

  15. #90

    Re: Trialing new F70 Yamahas on my 5.2m Kevlacat

    The other issue that I have to consider is the fact that I can re power with Mercury 60 Hp 4 strokes which are available from the only local outboard place in town. Interesting to get figures on this boat / motor setup.

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