Dead Barra

[modo]

The greens are pulling the Governments strings when it comes to closures please quote me if I'm wrong. But every fishing magazine in the country points the finger at the greens for the closures. . We have spent countless hours going to fishing closure meetings and listened to the dribble about how it won't affect any fishers or business, but it does and it will. When asked about bag and size limits I've been told it doesn't work and only closures are the answer. But I can't remember a better Flathead or snapper seasons in the past if it was not for these methods. But this is only my opinion.

[rod harrison]

Sorry, but the greens are anti-angling, anti-shooting, anti-poofer and lesbo jokes (too close to home), anti-anything not politically correct or which doesn't suit their loony left agenda.

The tragedy for the country is that at the far right of our polarised politics we have the likes of that hayseed senator, Barney Joyce. His way to Canberra was paid by irrigators like Cubbie Station.

The Nationals have a platform that's basically shoot, root, and electrocute. But have a lot to answer for over what's happened to the Murray Darling. Their cotton pickin' fingers are still poking around the pie that's all that water that floods down to fill Lake Ayre.

[Steve B]

we were talking to two blokes up the top of the dam on sat morn.they said they found a big barra floating and threw the mat on it over 1.3m long, we went and had a look at it out of curiosity what a shame we would have probably seen 25 - 30 floaters all over the dam . a real shame indeed. woodsy

Yeah I agree Woodsy, I have seen about that many over the past three week. I hate to see dead fish too. It happens..sad but true. Thankfully it wasnt as bad as last year, or as bad as some other dams. MASA has put about 50000 in this winter just gone. With a survival rate of about 30% thats 15000 + that should be 30cm by now.....top of the food chain. The bait fish is phenominal at the moment, so they will grow at a fast rate..give it a few years and Monduran will still be awesome. Natural attrition is a natural thing.

cheers steve

[snatch]

The greens are pulling the Governments strings when it comes to closures please quote me I'm wrong. But every fishing magazine in the country points the finger at the greens for the closures. . We have spent countless hours going to fishing closure meetings and listened to the dribble about how it won't affect any fishers or buisness' but it does and it will. When asked about bag and size limits I've been told it doesn't work and only closures are the answer. But I can't remember a better flathead or snapper seasons in the past if it was not for these methods. But this is only my oppinion.

The greens have absolutely nothing to do with catchment closures. Nothing. Zip. Nil. Catchment closures are most often due to water quality issues or pest control. The DPI is behind them.

The reef closures in QLD were done by GBRMPA. Another government body.

The greens will advise certainly (that is their role) , but after advisement government bodies are employed to make the decisions.

I witnessed a massive reduction in snapper catches in Port Philip bay many years ago after the liberal government went against the "advice" of the greens and reopened the bay to scallop fisherman. It took years to recover.

Who is to blame there? The greens? I don't agree with all the closures that have been implemented however the green zones on the GB reef are hard to argue with now that the results are becoming public. Free rein means no fisheries. Pure and simple.

You only need to look at all the dead reefs to our north around Asia to see what happens when hard decisions are not made.

If that is allowed to happen here, I wonder what you will think of the greens then?

[BARRAkid]

There is always a few dead fish at the dams i don't think i have been to monduran without seeing a dead fish you see a few floaters but how many are really dieing i would think barra sink aswell when they die (well they one of the ones in my tank sunk) and then there is the ones the pigs pull up into the scrub
But aleast people are trying there hardest to keep these fish alive nearly every serious angler knows to support the fishes weight which is good and reduces there chances of dieing.

Just lucky awonga or monduran hasn't had a fish kill like lenthals hundreds died there we wen't out there and there was piles of barra sitting in the bays and been dragged up the bank that lake has never been the same

cheers BK

[Dick Pasfield]

Sorry, but the greens are anti-angling, anti-shooting, anti-poofer and lesbo jokes (too close to home), anti-anything not politically correct or which doesn't suit their loony left agenda.

The tragedy for the country is that at the far right of our polarised politics we have the likes of that hayseed senator, Barney Joyce. His way to Canberra was paid by irrigators like Cubbie Station.

The Nationals have a platform that's basically shoot, root, and electrocute. But have a lot to answer for over what's happened to the Murray Darling. Their cotton pickin' fingers are still poking around the pie that's all that water that floods down to fill Lake Ayre.

'bout the size of it

[snatch]

Sorry, .

No need to apologies until they save something you actually care about

That is of course if it isn't too late. Interesting that you mention the state of the Murray Darling yet ignore their contribution to pressing for change. Kind of a double standard yeah?

Oh, and it's a fishery.

[spears]

It's a real shame that mother nature has produced a couple of cold winters and barra don't like really cold water.

When is this global warming going to cut in???????? last summer was also colder than usual, what's going on???

I fished at Awoonga last Monday 8th througfh to Thursday 11th Sept. and i can asure you that there are plenty of dead barra there as well, the boys reckon 500 plus, mostly big fish. Nothing we can do about it but its still a bloody shame to lose them like that.

Cheers,
John.

When is this global warming going to cut in???????? last summer was also colder than usual, what's going on???


Actually there is no proof of global warming and ice melting..
Do a search through google where many articles have been written saying no evidence of any climate change.
No increase in seas rising..No nothing is happening..
I was surprised to read all that info.
Not having a go at ya just stating a fact.

[snatch]

Be careful what you read. There is a lot of propaganda out there regarding climate change from both sides. I also think you mean there is no evidence of global warming, not climate change. The climate changes all the time.

As for ice melting ,there is plenty of proof in both the ice shelves and glaciers. Though I doubt either of these factors are fesponsible for the death of these barra.

[nob]

modo

is it raining....and where did u bii that spouge

[modo]

From you. You porn star. And thanks for your sms replies on Saturday night.

[nob]

sorry mate i was busy fishing.....and i cant read or write....bit like the greenies

[modo]

Ok someone's going to complain.

[snatch]

Obviously the mods need to lock this thread now. It is way off topic .

[nob]

snatch.....no need to get upset mate.... this is just a discussion with everyone being able to have an opinion....

i think that most ausfishers are all for sustainable future in our wonderful fishery but the agenda of the greens is not always as noble as it may seem..if we look at the goals of the queensland greens section 2.4 states "full local community participation in decision making" if this is the case this forum would be perfect for the greens to become involved and perhaps listen to some of the thoughts of recreational fisherman before pushing there thoughts onto the local powers that be....normally the time frame between a RIS being realesed and legislation being passed is all to little to late. I do comend some of the work the greens do but a little more interaction with the community would perhaps be more benaficial for everyone and who knows the may evan recieve some valuable information.

This is my opinon only and i am glad we have ausfish as a forum to voice this

cheers

nob

PS a copy of the greens goals

The Queensland Greens want:

2.1 The protection or restoration of environmental values and ecosystem services provided by the State's rivers and streams and groundwater systems.
2.2 The preservation of values that are fundamental to our Indigenous culture.
2.3 Maintenance of public ownership and control over all major water supply systems.
2.4 Full local community participation in decision making.
2.5 The adoption of a 'least cost planning' approach to addressing water demand.
2.6 The pricing of water to consider the full social, environmental and economic costs of water use and delivery.
2.7 Policy and practice to follow the principles of polluter pays, user pays and catchment benefits.