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    Taking great Pic's

    Hi everyone;
    This post is for those folk out there that are having trouble taking a clear photo of there prise catches. Since I’ve become a member of ozfish, I’ve seen dozens of photos that could have been great photos with just a little more knowledge on the subject. Photos don’t just show off a nice fish, they also tell a part of the story that the angler has experienced.

    Some of the most common problems are fuzzy not so clear pics. These are camera movement and pics that are out of focus. Camera movement is when the button is pushed quickly, which moves the entire camera in relation to the subject your shooting. You may also be experiencing heavy shadows on you pics, these are easy to remedy problems, so easy you won’t believe it.

    I use a Fuji finepix A700 instamatic digital camera which is a 7.3 mega pixel model. Almost all modern digital cams these days come in 6+ mega pixels. The amount of mega pixels make little difference to your pics if you get them printed for your photo album or posted on the net. Perhaps someone else can do a follow up post on the best ways through that step.

    First and foremost is the memory card, I use a 512 MB card in my camera and get 135 photos with the quality set on the highest setting. This setting determines the overall quality by using the maximum performance of the camera. You may get a reduced number of photos but there all good.

    The two common causes of fuzzy photos come from the same action, jabbing the button. All of the smaller compact cameras have auto focus, this is accomplished by gently pushing down the button until it reaches its desired point to auto focus, this takes about a second then your ready to continue pushing the button down until the cam takes the picture. In that same jabbing action usually undertaken by most people causes camera movement, once again your picture is not clear. Breaking the habit of button banging is a hard habit to break. Follow the first step in pre focusing before you shoot, and use a smooth action in pressing the button and both errors will go away.

    Lets face it Australia is a harsh place and we have a lot of sunlight, even on a cloudy day there’s good light. Having bright sunlight to work with can create shadowing in the photo. Make things easy for your self and before taking the pic turn the boat so the angler is facing the sun. Take at least 4 photos then put your camera onto forced flash, this means the cam will use the flash even in bright light. This will fill in the shadows without looking like you’ve used a flash. Take at least 4 more photos before you do whatever with your catch.

    Practise makes perfect and the beauty of digital cameras is you can delete as you go along. Try taking a few photos of you fence, shooting along it at 20 degree angle. Jab the button as you may be doing then try the gently approach and compare the difference. This will give you an idea of where your cam focuses to, the focus point may not always be the centre of the viewfinder but to one side of it. Learn your camera at home, become proficient where it doesn’t matter then go and take some great fishing photos.

    I take lots of photos as they are my life’s journey, for my boy to look over when he gets a bit older and stops trying to eat them. Thank god for external hard drives. By the way my camera only cost me around $200 and takes great photos.

    Mitch

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    Good thread. I know it's been done before, but it's always great to see other peoples piccies. And any hints to better your photos can only be a good thing

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    Great thread.

    Another common mistake peolpe make when taking pictures is not taking the pictures straight away when the fish is lit up and has great colour.

    Pictures beside the kitchen sink or in the driveway dont look to crash hot.

    It means a bit of extra work but its worth it when you look back at your trophy fish.

    Pete

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    Hi mitch,

    Your gallery is looking very sad.

    Do be embarressed. How about posting a few of those quality pics you've been taking at Hinze

    Steve99

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve99 View Post
    Hi mitch,

    Your gallery is looking very sad.

    Do be embarressed. How about posting a few of those quality pics you've been taking at Hinze

    Steve99
    Attachment 22647How about this one Steve.
    You know why I don't post many Pics.
    Mitch

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    i see jen is catching a few mitch, good stuff mate, does she still outfish you....lol..lol cheers bdowdy..brett

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdowdy View Post
    i see jen is catching a few mitch, good stuff mate, does she still outfish you....lol..lol cheers bdowdy..brett
    Hi brett, That photo was taken when Jen was prego with will. Were due to have a fish together as soon as Will will take food from someone else.
    Talk soon
    Mitch

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    most photos taken by amateurs are just that..amateur pics..myself included and I use a digital SLR...the pros reel off mulititudes of pics of the one item then select and doctor the pick of those. What we may think of as good pics, are, in reality run of the mill very average pics..but..if they have value for us as being of fish, family or special occassions then they are valued. The quality means nothing.
    For printing in magazines and books etc then no amateur can match hthe pros purely based on the quality of the equipment they use, programmes they have to edit the pic and the dollars they get paid to do it. Some of the fishing mags have some good amateur pics and also some appalling ones but that is what they are given so I guess that is all they have to work with.

    As an example, take Poodroo's pic..not necessarily picking on yours Poo but a pro would not have had your young bloke in a yellow PFD..I know he has to have it on but the pro would have removed it..the bright colour detracts from the main object of the pic ..the fish.

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    I use a compact Olympus MJ-U750 camera which is a 7.1 mp water resistent camera packed with a lot of features, however regardless of technology I have found that some basic knowledge for taking a good shot is a must. I have seen photos taken with an expensive SLR digital that are no better than what I take and some much better. So what makes the difference? It's simple. Knowledge to take a good shot and knowledge to improve the shot using a photo editing program like Paintshop or Photoshop to name a couple. Just as an example I have taken some potentially great shots when out in my boat of sunrises and fish that I have caught but the flaws in those photos become apparent when downloaded onto the computer. The hardest thing to acheive when taking photos from in a boat is getting a straight horizon because the boat is rocking so almost always the horizon will end up at an angle. With editing programs like the ones mentioned you can rotate and crop the photo so that the horizon is much straighter. Also if the photo turns out underexposed but is otherwise a great photo these programs can be used to highlight and brighten the photo. Other features include removing red eyes as well. Here is a couple of examples of photos that I have taken that have had crooked horizons that I straightened up. No other editing was needed on these shots at all and the end result is what I think is almost as good as something from a much higher quality camera.









    Well this is true Pinhead. I put that photo in as an example of a photo that once had a very crooked horizon rather than a good shot. It was an average photo initially that was only taken to capture the moment rather than be a pro shot. But you are right, the pros would have taken the PFD off but as a dad I left it on. If I was keen enough and patient enough I could painstakingly remove the PFD with Paintshop Pro but I am not that patient.

    Poodroo

    P.S. Another helpful tip is when buying a digital camera to spend that little bit extra if it means getting one with an "optical zoom" because digital zoom cameras tend to give pixelated images (regardless of how many megapixels they have) when in full zoom and it is hard to notice it when viewing the photo using the camera's lcd screen.
    Last edited by Poodroo; 10-03-2008 at 06:57 AM. Reason: Mods merged and mucked up my posts


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    Quote Originally Posted by PinHead View Post
    most photos taken by amateurs are just that..amateur pics..myself included and I use a digital SLR...the pros reel off mulititudes of pics of the one item then select and doctor the pick of those. What we may think of as good pics, are, in reality run of the mill very average pics..but..if they have value for us as being of fish, family or special occassions then they are valued. The quality means nothing.
    For printing in magazines and books etc then no amateur can match hthe pros purely based on the quality of the equipment they use, programmes they have to edit the pic and the dollars they get paid to do it. Some of the fishing mags have some good amateur pics and also some appalling ones but that is what they are given so I guess that is all they have to work with.

    As an example, take Poodroo's pic..not necessarily picking on yours Poo but a pro would not have had your young bloke in a yellow PFD..I know he has to have it on but the pro would have removed it..the bright colour detracts from the main object of the pic ..the fish.

    Lets face it,most freelance writers are only amateur photographers. Even well known contributers like Steve Starling or Rod Harrison are technically amateur,despite years of photographic and writing experience.

    The ability to take good photos only comes with years of experience. Forget about how good or expensive the camera is - thats irrelevant.

    An experienced person with a cheap camera will always take better photos than someone with very expensive camera and no experience.

    The quality of a photo ultimately determines if its gets printed in a magazine. Editors can always correct poor writing ,but photos need to be clear and in focus first up,because despite what many think, very few, if any, fishing or boating magazine use the services of professional photographers.

    Steve99

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    I read a basic book on the subject of pic taking once. it was really helpfull.

    another few tips. unless it is the desired effect, fill the frame with the subject, leave all the clutter out.

    also, before you take the pic, quickly look around and remove any unnecessary objects, bucket in background etc. it's amazing what you don't see 'through' the camera so to speak.

    use different angles, shoot from low, high 45deg etc.

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    If you want some background for effect, put the subject to one side for a little variety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve99 View Post
    Lets face it,most freelance writers are only amateur photographers. Even well known contributers like Steve Starling or Rod Harrison are technically amateur,despite years of photographic and writing experience.

    The ability to take good photos only comes with years of experience. Forget about how good or expensive the camera is - thats irrelevant.

    An experienced person with a cheap camera will always take better photos than someone with very expensive camera and no experience.

    The quality of a photo ultimately determines if its gets printed in a magazine. Editors can always correct poor writing ,but photos need to be clear and in focus first up,because despite what many think, very few, if any, fishing or boating magazine use the services of professional photographers.

    Steve99
    ain't that the truth and it sure is obvious..not many Steve Parish's amongst them.

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    Dont agree 100%

    Amateurs are still able to take 'Magazine quality' shots....

    I have a mate who writes for Mags who uses a 10 megapixel camera which many people have these days.

    Its just about paying attention to certain aspects like

    1.Not having blood coming out of the fish from a gaff shot etc...
    2.positioning yourself so the sun is on the fish showing its colours...
    3.No shadows over you..

    Sure there are many more but amatuers are still able to take fantastic shots that magazines will happily accept.
    Sure professionials with the best gear will always do better.

    Pete

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