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  1. #16

    Re: Two layer colour change weave in progress

    Latest update,
    Now since that hot weather has gone I was able to get back to the weave. This is how it appears so far without any tigthening and packing/moving the threads. There is a lot of problems with it, as mention in another post I should have used C wraping thread, using B has caused the fish to be stubby (impoundment barra style) Also the back the threads have spread towards the top, should have kept a slight downward presure on the threads. (not sure if I can fix this yet but I will have a try). It will come up a lot better after some tightening but still a pretty crap effort since my last.

  2. #17

    Re: Two layer colour change weave in progress

    The only critic worth anything is your self, if you can ever please yourself then you know your customer has nothing to pick or worry about.

    Stu

  3. #18

    Re: Two layer colour change weave in progress

    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart View Post
    The only critic worth anything is your self, if you can ever please yourself then you know your customer has nothing to pick or worry about.

    Stu
    How true is that Stuart.
    I'm my own worst critic and sometimes it's peeves the cook to no end.

    I'm liking the progress of the 'impound barra' and can't wait to see something be created first hand just so I know what's happening.

  4. #19

    Re: Two layer colour change weave in progress

    Stu that is very true, but one off the biggest problems is that we see the faults but the customers don't unless shown and even then they still can't see the faults.

  5. #20

    Re: Two layer colour change weave in progress

    Dont show them the faults Myles. If you know its small and nothing to worry about dont do it. By high-lighting our style or degree of faults you are under selling your self and the customer may think he or she is getting an inferior product.

    Stu

  6. #21

    Re: Two layer colour change weave in progress

    Ha Ha Stu,
    But I know it's there, now honestly how many times have you fixed the tiniest imperection knowing the customer would never had noticed it.

  7. #22

    Re: Two layer colour change weave in progress

    All the time mate, But I dont tell the customer their is a fault in the product.

    Stu

  8. #23

    Re: Two layer colour change weave in progress

    Please bring it along to the RBW Myles.

    We've all been following it's progress, even better to see it first hand.

    Roz.
    GO THE CRUISER UTES!

    ....OH WHAT A FEELING!

  9. #24

    Re: Two layer colour change weave in progress

    Myles,
    As I'm about to attempt this particular weave, I was wondering about your use of different sized threads for the X & Y axis.
    You said that using a bigger wrap thread stopped the pattern from getting chunky, which I kind of understand the logic of.... The wider thread means the overall pattern will be wider.
    What confuses me a bit though is that when you lay out a grid, you typically use the same size grid in X & Y.
    "logically" then, each grid square represents an area equivilent to the thickness of a thread. This would mean you should use the same size thread in both directions.
    Does the practice always fail the theory?
    Or is it a case of "depends on the pattern" that only comes with experience?
    Cheers,
    Owen


    The whole world's mad save thee & me (but I'm not too sure about thee)

  10. #25

    Re: Two layer colour change weave in progress

    Owen,
    Is this Doc's pattern.
    I used size A design thread and b NCP wrap. Size B NCP is about the same size as A metalic. As you progress through the weave you are packing the threads as you would a normal wrap, you need to do this a little harder because you don't want the design threads showing through, also it is bulky under the wrap thread.
    I am presuming you are going to do a shilouette first. Doing a multi layer colour change isn't the best thing to start on. Another tip, do your first shilouette in nylon not metalic, as you will be playing with the thread a bit and the metalic will damage.
    This weave should have worked out using the A and B NCP, I will post a piccy of it with CP on as I have not applied finish to it yet.
    I would suggest using size A as the design thread and C as the wrap. If doing it as a shilouette use A NCP and C NCP and you will not need to use CP on the finished weave.

  11. #26

    Re: Two layer colour change weave in progress

    Owen

    To answer your question mate, no. Both the design threads and the background being the black are not the same because it’s done on a gride. This is were some experience comes in. You first need to pick a design that will work on the desired diameter of the blank in question, this may be 18mm. You then need to measure how far around the blank you want the fish to go. Let’s say you want to see the whole fish, and then you will need to work out how many mm you need to do that. The blank is 18mm so I recone you will need the pattern to cover 10mm. Once you have this measurement the rest is irrelevant. By this I mean the length of the pattern will be what ever it needs to be. You need to concentrate on the depth of the pattern; once you have achieved this the rest will fall into place. You can work out the length by measuring the width of the threads being used. If you want to use “A” thread then you will need to base all measurements around “A” as your background. I personally use C thread for all my backgrounds and “A” thread for the pattern itself. The graph paper is based on the actual measured thread size and I then work with in those dimensions. If you’re coming to the RBW I will show you how to measure up for a weave.

    Stuart

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