Lucky_Phill
10-04-2002, 06:02 PM
Result of the RIS ( tailor )
Well people, we have been sold out again. The RIS has been nothing more than a " Public Relations" exercise by a Government ruled by business and not common sense.
Having aquired more detailed information, I have no doubt the commercial Tailor Fishermen got exactly what they wanted.
Let's look at some facts . The Queensland Fisheries Service has stated in the RIS that the average commercial " Harvest " ( why they use this word I'll never know, I thought you had to plant to Harvest. ) for tailor was 176.2 tonne. That figure was born from figures given to them by the Commercial Fishers, from a period from 1988. That, people is around 13 years of totals. Now, consider this, if 1988 produced 300 tonne and 1994 produced 250 tonne and 1996, 200 and then it got gradually less until 2001 produced only 75 tonne ( cause the commercial guys have raped the guts out of the stocks ), that could lead to an " average " figure of 176.2 tonne. Those figures presented to the public do NOT show the decline in numbers being caught.
On the other hand, the figures used by the QFS to establish the Recreational Catch was taken over 2 years, YES people 2 years ( 1997 and 1999 ). This was done by volunteer logbooks and telephone surveys. Like that will give you the real picture. The QFS, if they are fair dinkum, should look at the commercial catch over those years. Now, the rate for commercial catch to be reduced is 90% ( of the 176.2 tonne ) , taking into account other figures, that's 120 tonne. NOT forgetting, the commercial fishers can sell, without, logbook recordings, a further catch of under 100kgs in every 24 hour period.
The RIS states that the Rec catch should be reduced to below 90%. By that reckoning, the QFS says that recreational fishermen in Queensland catch 8,030 each, per year. Did you read that correctly. 8,030 Tailor per person per year. I don't know about you, but I'll struggle to catch that in a life time or two. They worked it like this :-
8,030 divided by 365 days = 22 fish per day, reduced to 90% = 20 tailor in possession.
And for the Fraser blokes who are allowed 30 fish " in possession".it goes like this:-
12,410 fish divided by 365 days = 34 fish per day, reduced to 90% = 30 in possession.
I don't know who the QFS surveyed to find out that we rec fishers caught at least 8,000 tailor a year, but someones using a lot of pillies. ( 60 pillies to a block), $12.00/block is 133 blocks and $1,600 on bait alone. Providing you get 1 fish per bait. Take in account the lost baits, etc....say 50% and all of a sudden you 're looking at $3,000 a year in bait for the Rec fisho, and the Fraser blokes would be spending closer to $5,000. Give me a break QFS. Are you trying to tell the public that the average land based ( non Fraser ) fisho catches 3.2 tonne of Tailor a year and the Fraser boys 4.9 tonne EACH !
I'm sorry QFS, but these are YOUR figures. And What happened to the 36cm increased size limit ? I'll tell you what, the commercial guys came up with the idea of throwing in that, just to appeaze the rec fishoes. It was never going to be introduced.
Further, in the RIS, the QFS says that " Consistency with the Authorising Law ", parts 2 and 3 :- optimum community, economic and other benefits will be obtained from the fisheries resources: and,
access to fisheries resources is fair.
Sorry, still laughing.
Let's look at the " economic " side. We'll only look at Fraser even. The rec fisho spends money on bait, fuel, Accom, tackle, alcohol, food, ice and a host of other services, and I'm sure your running at upwards of $5 per fish. Some calculations put it at $10.
On the other hand, how much does the Pro get for his fish, maybe $2 per kg ( about 80 cents per fish ) if he's lucky. Don't say, yeh he buys fuel, he does, but it's at the Primary Producer Rate and therefore non taxed.
Now let's do the sums. Pro's ...$2kg x 120 tonne = $480,000
The Rec guys $5/fish x 12,410 = $155,125 EACH now say there are only one thousand guys that fish Fraser, $155,125 x 1,000 = $155,125,000.
If those figures look ridiculous, they are, but they are the figures the QFS are using. You and I know more than 1,000 tailor fishermen go to Fraser. They DO NOT each catch 12,410 Tailor. Any fool can juggle the stats to make themselves look good or bad. I'm sorry folks, but we have been done over again.
Please feel free to "copy & paste " this information to emails to your local members, state members, federal members, council members, QFS, any fishing clubs, friends, relatives and even your enemies. Hopefully to your local and national papers and media outlets. >:(
Well people, we have been sold out again. The RIS has been nothing more than a " Public Relations" exercise by a Government ruled by business and not common sense.
Having aquired more detailed information, I have no doubt the commercial Tailor Fishermen got exactly what they wanted.
Let's look at some facts . The Queensland Fisheries Service has stated in the RIS that the average commercial " Harvest " ( why they use this word I'll never know, I thought you had to plant to Harvest. ) for tailor was 176.2 tonne. That figure was born from figures given to them by the Commercial Fishers, from a period from 1988. That, people is around 13 years of totals. Now, consider this, if 1988 produced 300 tonne and 1994 produced 250 tonne and 1996, 200 and then it got gradually less until 2001 produced only 75 tonne ( cause the commercial guys have raped the guts out of the stocks ), that could lead to an " average " figure of 176.2 tonne. Those figures presented to the public do NOT show the decline in numbers being caught.
On the other hand, the figures used by the QFS to establish the Recreational Catch was taken over 2 years, YES people 2 years ( 1997 and 1999 ). This was done by volunteer logbooks and telephone surveys. Like that will give you the real picture. The QFS, if they are fair dinkum, should look at the commercial catch over those years. Now, the rate for commercial catch to be reduced is 90% ( of the 176.2 tonne ) , taking into account other figures, that's 120 tonne. NOT forgetting, the commercial fishers can sell, without, logbook recordings, a further catch of under 100kgs in every 24 hour period.
The RIS states that the Rec catch should be reduced to below 90%. By that reckoning, the QFS says that recreational fishermen in Queensland catch 8,030 each, per year. Did you read that correctly. 8,030 Tailor per person per year. I don't know about you, but I'll struggle to catch that in a life time or two. They worked it like this :-
8,030 divided by 365 days = 22 fish per day, reduced to 90% = 20 tailor in possession.
And for the Fraser blokes who are allowed 30 fish " in possession".it goes like this:-
12,410 fish divided by 365 days = 34 fish per day, reduced to 90% = 30 in possession.
I don't know who the QFS surveyed to find out that we rec fishers caught at least 8,000 tailor a year, but someones using a lot of pillies. ( 60 pillies to a block), $12.00/block is 133 blocks and $1,600 on bait alone. Providing you get 1 fish per bait. Take in account the lost baits, etc....say 50% and all of a sudden you 're looking at $3,000 a year in bait for the Rec fisho, and the Fraser blokes would be spending closer to $5,000. Give me a break QFS. Are you trying to tell the public that the average land based ( non Fraser ) fisho catches 3.2 tonne of Tailor a year and the Fraser boys 4.9 tonne EACH !
I'm sorry QFS, but these are YOUR figures. And What happened to the 36cm increased size limit ? I'll tell you what, the commercial guys came up with the idea of throwing in that, just to appeaze the rec fishoes. It was never going to be introduced.
Further, in the RIS, the QFS says that " Consistency with the Authorising Law ", parts 2 and 3 :- optimum community, economic and other benefits will be obtained from the fisheries resources: and,
access to fisheries resources is fair.
Sorry, still laughing.
Let's look at the " economic " side. We'll only look at Fraser even. The rec fisho spends money on bait, fuel, Accom, tackle, alcohol, food, ice and a host of other services, and I'm sure your running at upwards of $5 per fish. Some calculations put it at $10.
On the other hand, how much does the Pro get for his fish, maybe $2 per kg ( about 80 cents per fish ) if he's lucky. Don't say, yeh he buys fuel, he does, but it's at the Primary Producer Rate and therefore non taxed.
Now let's do the sums. Pro's ...$2kg x 120 tonne = $480,000
The Rec guys $5/fish x 12,410 = $155,125 EACH now say there are only one thousand guys that fish Fraser, $155,125 x 1,000 = $155,125,000.
If those figures look ridiculous, they are, but they are the figures the QFS are using. You and I know more than 1,000 tailor fishermen go to Fraser. They DO NOT each catch 12,410 Tailor. Any fool can juggle the stats to make themselves look good or bad. I'm sorry folks, but we have been done over again.
Please feel free to "copy & paste " this information to emails to your local members, state members, federal members, council members, QFS, any fishing clubs, friends, relatives and even your enemies. Hopefully to your local and national papers and media outlets. >:(