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jaybee
06-11-2003, 07:26 PM
00:01 05 November 03 NewScientist.com news service
Biologists have linked a mysterious, underwater farting sound to bubbles coming out of a herring's anus. No fish had been known to emit sound from its anus nor to be capable of producing such a high-pitched noise.

"It sounds just like a high-pitched raspberry," says Ben Wilson of the University of British Columbia in Vancouver, Canada (Listen here, .wav file). Wilson and his colleagues cannot be sure why herring make this sound, but initial research suggests that it might explain the puzzle of how shoals keep together after dark.

"Surprising and interesting" is how aquatic acoustic specialist Dennis Higgs, of the University of Windsor in Ontario, describes the discovery. It is the first case of a fish potentially using high frequency for communication, he believes.

Arthur Popper, an aquatic bio-acoustic specialist at the University of Maryland, US, is also intrigued. "I'd not have thought of it, but fish do very strange and diverse things," he says

Grunts and buzzes
Fish are known to call out to potential mates with low "grunts and buzzes", produced by wobbling a balloon of air called the swim bladder located in the torso. The swim bladder inflates and deflates to adjust the fish's buoyancy.

The biologists initially assumed that the swim bladder was also producing the high-pitched sound they had detected. But then they noticed that a stream of bubbles expelled from the fish's anus corresponded exactly with the timing of the noise. So a more likely cause was air escaping from the swim bladder through the anus.

It was at this point that the team named the noise Fast Repetitive Tick (FRT). But Wilson points that, unlike a human fart, the sounds are probably not caused by digestive gases because the number of sounds does not change when the fish are fed.

The researchers also tested whether the fish were farting from fear, perhaps to sound an alarm. But when they exposed fish to a shark scent, there was again no change in the number of FRTs.

Night waves

Finally, three observations persuaded the researchers that the FRT is most likely produced for communication. Firstly, when more herring are in a tank, the researchers record more FRTs per fish.

Secondly, the herring are only noisy after dark, indicating that the sounds might allow the fish to locate one another when they cannot be seen. Thirdly, the biologists know that herrings can hear sounds of this frequency, while most fish cannot. This would allow them to communicate by FRT without alerting predators to their presence.

Wilson emphasises that at present this idea is just a theory. But the discovery is still useful, he says. Herring might be tracked by their FRTs, in the same way that whales and dolphins are monitored by their high-pitched squeals. Fishermen might even exploit this to locate shoals.

There may even be a conservation issue. Some experts believe human-generated sounds can damage underwater mammals. Now it seems underwater noise might disrupt fish too.

Journal reference: Biology Letters (DOI: 10.1098/rsbl.2003.0107) Celeste Biever

Gorilla_in_Manila
06-11-2003, 09:01 PM
Jaybee,
10/10 for having a really wide range of interests. Must have the world's supply of spare time on you hands - good luck to you.
I can snap out the first few bars of Waltzing Matilda the next morning after a nice Indian curry dinner and a dozen beers. Doesn't seem to get the other Ausssie expats in Manila schooling around me though; don't know why! Might be worth a Government grant though!
Should I post a wav file??? ;D ;D ;D
Cheers,
Jeff

jaybee
06-11-2003, 09:07 PM
Gorilla
Should I post a wav filego for it ;D

Gorilla_in_Manila
06-11-2003, 09:14 PM
Couldn't get the wav up, so here goes;
Thhrrrr, thhrrr, thr, brrr brrr,
thhrrr, thhrrr, thr, brr brr, ...
Problem is, my daughter is only two months old, and she cant pull my finger yet! ;D ;D ;D

Maxg
06-11-2003, 10:18 PM
While the herrings might make Farts, you will not hear them since, 1.... You isn't in the watter, 2... Your lugs don't work down there, and herrings are doubly gifted since they use the lateral line and the Farts for group activities. But if you want to get a hydrophone, I've got one you can purchase at a very inflated price to listen to Farts, if you want, that is. Max

ScubaDiver
07-11-2003, 04:16 AM
Problem is, my daughter is only two months old, and she cant pull my finger yet! ;D ;D ;D

Some advice on when to introduce "pulling the finger"

http://www.househusband.blogspot.com/2003_10_01_househusband_archive.html#1066277276810 02448

Gorilla_in_Manila
07-11-2003, 05:49 AM
Thanks for that ScubaDiver. Good to see that there is a place I can go for advice on this important part of my child's development.
That solves the "when". Any advice on the "where"???
Has hallmark made a bunch of expensive cards to celebrate the occassion yet?

ScubaDiver
07-11-2003, 09:42 AM
The only advice on where I can give is where NOT to do it.

The top 3 places not to teach your daughter how to "Pull your finger" are:

3. Day Care Centre as you pick her up or drop her off

2.Down the shops while you wait for you groceries to go through the checkout

And the number 1 place never to teach your daughter about "Pulling your finger"...

1.Your Mother inlaw's house