Used Motor Opinions Please!!!

[tengals123]

Guys my old merc 100hp blew up :(
im looking for another donk!!!
$4000-5000 bucks 100-130hp, anything i should look for or stay away from?
please help. BTW what are 'Force' Motors like?

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[James_V17L]

There was a 115hp 1998 salt water series Yammy in the trading post for around $4000..sounds like good buying.

[tengals123]

sure does, i'll check it out....anyone else?

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[chemmy]

did you take any pics of it when it was exploded
and yea that yammy sounds good but i recon look around for a four stroke 100hp yammy

michael

[NQCairns]

Bit early for a 4st at $4000 yet Chemmy at least in the HP range wanted. Give it 5 years and there should be a few going for wrecking prices considering they will probably cost 2/3 new replacement price to recondition properly :o
Ebay sometimes has motors that seem ok on paper and in the pic for that price & hp range.

You could probably get another 10-15years out of a full rebuild/replacement powerhead considering you will replacing with another carb 2 stroke anyway, not really a trade up regardless of year/make. Especially so considering the good work you did on it :'(

[tengals123]

mate opened the inpection plates and recons it just the rings on that cylinder. Big job for me. That plus no power trim and tilt, probs with reverse and the motor is 38years old. Fix something now and something is likely to go wrong later on.
I think it's just time to move on. Sell on ebay starting at $400, will be happy with 500 bucks. It can be fixed, I just can't be bothered.

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[scuttlebutt]

I think the "Force" outboards are made by Chrysler. I don't think they're really a "mainstream" brand, parts might be a little more difficult to find - don't know much more than that about them though

cheers,

steve

[tengals123]

it's funny, coz on the side of the cowling it states.
'FORCE'
by Mercury Marine

For parts and the like, i think im better sticking with the main brands.

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[scuttlebutt]

Apparently Mercury bought Force from Chrysler around the early nineties. My understanding is they then used a Chrysler (usmarine) powerhead with a Mercury leg. Either way, pretty sure they're no longer in production

cheers,

steve

[tengals123]

I've decided against the 'force'
I need to find a motor, 90Hp under $5000, i really want it after 92' build too. It is possible, right?

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[scuttlebutt]

yeah, I'd prefer to leave the Force to the Jedi nights ;)

cheers,

steve

[scuttlebutt]

yeah, I'd prefer to leave the Force to the Jedi knights ;)

cheers,

steve

[tengals123]

i'm looking at a 90, 1990 evinrude ATM, but really want a early 90's yammy.

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[NQCairns]

Tengals a early 90s Yammy would be worth about 2500, for 5000 odd you should find a good middle to late 90s 90, around 6500 for an early 2000 model
Be carefull the early yammys were rough units with a few short cuts taken not sure when they pulled the quality issues up, from memory one way to tell if you have the bad years is to look at the shift rod viewed through one of the holes in the leg if it is rusty then skip the engine although it had probably been replaced with an ss one by now anyway. There were other problems also but I forget someone else might know. cheers nq

[tengals123]

that handy to know, i'll look for that thanks.
I just need to find the right motor, i'd be open to anything at the moment.
BTE I have just posted my old merc up on ebay. Great motor, ran fantasic, I just can't be bothered changing the rings.


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[Big_Kev]

You should be able to get something like that for the money.
I saw a 97 Yammie 90hp for sale in Bris at a dealer for 4500.

[NQCairns]

Yeah if it is older than 94/95 and a Yam to be safe dont even consider it IMO. Be a bit carefull of 96/97 to 2001 Johnrudes they were OMC quality problem years, although any engine with problems from those years should have been fixed by now one would guess. Everything else is the normal outboard engine crap shoot. good luck with it.nq

[tengals123]

thanks.


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[Fishin_Dan]

Reel Hard - Which dealer would that be? I'm thinking of possibly replacing my motor if plausable, so would be handy to know wheres good.

(Sorry to jump in on your post Tengals :-[ )

[tengals123]

damn, bloody Qld'ers :P
Got all the good motors.
looking at a 90hp envinrude, Fully rebuilt 1989 model, 6mth w'tee, oil injection.
$4500 fitted?
any idea's

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[Fishin_Dan]

Tengals - I've got an 88 model 40HP evinrude, so (apart from size) same model motor. The only thing I was told was to make sure you don't use the oil mixing in the motor. Do it yourself in the petrol.

Someone like Spaniard King might be your best person to answer this question though.

[Spaniard_King]

Tengals,

Thats too dear for an 89 model,

personally If I was buyin an Evinrude/Johno I would look for a 60 degree engine, the 90 degree engine was a dog and very thirsty. 60 degree engines started from 1995 and are still made today. NQ was refering to the early model ficht engines which had some problems but these were mainly the V6's. I think you will find most V4 ficht engines were reliable.

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Garry

[tengals123]

ok, im not buying that motor, i saw it today and did'nt like it anyways. I have seen a mariner 1993 90hp for $4900 looks in good nic. What do you guys think?

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[NQCairns]

Spaniard king what is a fair price for an early V4 90 Fict these days?
No idea on the Mariner but if you flip back to OMC at some time you will get more bang for your buck/hp if you buy a looper that last one was a crossflow engine, which is what I think Spaniard king was speaking about. It's worth finding out anway before buying. nq

[tengals123]

i'd love just to find a mid to late 90's, 90hp for under 5500.
NO-ONE has em'

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[NQCairns]

I have a 71 125hp V4 (probably puts out 105hp) down stairs in perfect running order you can have for $5500 I will even freight Aust wide for free cause I am such a great bloke. What do you think? ;D ;D :-X
Dont get desperate and get taken advantage of, it's easy with these engines.
Try doing a marine wreckers yellow pages search and let your fingers do the walking, they sometimes have good engines for sale and they know a lot of boating people so someone may have an engine for sale, personally I wouldn't even consider a dealer trade-in they are usually too expensive and the standard warrenty from them is pretty useless.

[tengals123]

thanks heaps for the posts.
I have about 8 dealers, 6 mechs. and 10 other marine type people with their feelers out.

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[Oldyella]

Regarding "Force".. They were known as an "Entry level" motor and the common term on the US sites is "Let the Force not be with you" #:-)
If you take real good care of them, they will last, but have been made by a few companies who would rather forget about them. Sounds like you had a “Lean condition” and burned a piston or two.

Rebuild is risky with an old salty due to corrosion in water cover and water passages. Go for something newer with Stainless driveshaft.

[tengals123]

yeah im looking for a 90-115 hp, mid to late 1990. just have to find the right motor.

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[tengals123]

still looking, have seen a few, but no good yet.

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[tengals123]

i'm still looking.

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[jiffo]

i was in thomos boat house bundaberg he has a100 merc on second hand rack looks 90,s dont know how much . give him a ring 41527833