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mossy43
25-03-2006, 06:46 PM
I am considering purchasing a new Evinrude 60 E-TEC, my local dealer told me that they perform marginally better then all of its rivals of the same hp regardless if they are 2st or 4st engines.

He said that the added advantage is the service periods being 3 years as apposed to 12 months for all others. Could anyone give me their experiences in comparing these engines? I lean towards the Suzuki or Yamaha but are these evinrudes as good as they say. Mossy

Coontakinta
25-03-2006, 07:00 PM
Mossy, had a similar delema almost 12mths ago. 4 stroke or 2 stroke as I wanted an injected motor over a carby model (couldnt find an injected 90hp 4 stroke, other than the suzuki!), I ended up looking at Di 2's the intial choice was the E-tec, but some more investigation and a price tooooo good to ignore had me bolting a Tohatsu 90hp TLDi to the blunt end. Have had the unit since Nov 05 and to date have no compaints. The oil is cheaper than that specified by Bombadier and a 3 year period between servicing could mean that items that would normally be picked up and rectified during a normal maintenance regime would be left to fester and become a major out of warranty issue. :-/

Am still trying to gauge fuel consumption figures, but by all accounts the TLDi is almost as quiet, just as fuel frugal, and cheaper than a comparable 4 stroke. The TLDi is also repotedly faster than the E-tec of the same size. Take a look @ the reports on both motors in Boatpoint!

Happy boating
Coonta ;)

StevenM
25-03-2006, 07:06 PM
Mossy,

you are going to get more responses that My Yammy or My Suzuki or My Honda...same as Ford vs Holden, Cruiser vs Patrol.

All new product is going to be fine, I have had 3 new out boards (all different brands) and they were all fine. My forth being a Etec...and once again its fine.

Forget about the three year service stuff crap...have your service centre still look at it every year or 100 hrs. I get mine pluged in and checked every year, get the gear oil changed and replace the impellor as well.

BTW what are you putting out the front of it

Cheers

Steven

Seahorse
25-03-2006, 07:18 PM
read page 2 on this section . someone has heading "something wrong with my 60 etec.

Coontakinta
25-03-2006, 07:30 PM
http://www.ausfish.com.au/cgi-ausfish/yabb2/YaBB.cgi?num=1142915721;start=all

is the link for that page

Spaniard_King
25-03-2006, 07:52 PM
It's hard to pick a bad outboard on the market these days what lets them down is the people who service/repair them

Garry

Coontakinta
25-03-2006, 08:04 PM
http://boatpoint.ninemsn.com.au/portal/alias__boatpointau/tabID__200859/ArticleID__119981/DesktopDefault.aspx

http://boatpoint.ninemsn.com.au/portal/alias__boatpointau/tabID__200859/ArticleID__119562/DesktopDefault.aspx

http://boatpoint.ninemsn.com.au/portal/alias__boatpointau/tabID__200859/ArticleID__118924/DesktopDefault.aspx

http://boatpoint.ninemsn.com.au/portal/alias__boatpointau/tabID__200859/ArticleID__117643/DesktopDefault.aspx

Mossy hope these links are of help to you. the beauty of some of them are that they make comparisons against other brand motors in a similar size.

be sure to read them fully, dont just look @ the titles as some of the relative info u seek may be hidden in a review from another outboard.

If u have more time check out the following link for yourself.
http://boatpoint.ninemsn.com.au/portal/alias__boatpointau/tabID__200859/ArticleID__117643/DesktopDefault.aspx

spen175
25-03-2006, 08:43 PM
Mossy,

I am not an e-tec owner, however looking at at various options in the 115hp range and came across this site

http://www.oceanskiffjournal.com/SubscriberContent/Articles/Vol01Issue05/General/ETEC1.aspx

it is not a bombardier site, and seems to try to sort the crap, bias and prejudices that seems to get involved in this sort of discussion.

I found it really worth my while to read the lot of it.

The one thing I have found is that there are no bad motors, some suit one need more that an other, with one strength balanced by another strenght in its competitor.

one tip, a few hours research and speaking to owners of what ever motor you are looking at will help you find the one that suits your needs the best.

enjoy
spen175

mossy43
26-03-2006, 09:32 PM
Thanks guys for all the information I have read the lot and I am now even more confused but wiser. Mossy

Coontakinta
27-03-2006, 08:57 AM
Ah confusion, thats a feeling i remember vividly. :o Bore size, bore stroke, induction, capacity, ahhhhhhhh! ::)

gif
27-03-2006, 09:46 AM
Hi

Tell me what size and brand motors you are looking atand I will come back with the actual HP and the emissions levels

cheers

Gary
g.fooks@uq.net.au

Coontakinta
27-03-2006, 03:39 PM
spen175, that link makes for interesting reading and I'd reccommend it to anyone!

spen175
27-03-2006, 07:09 PM
Coontakinta,

please to be able to help, site challanged assumptions I has and that is a good thing.
cheers
spen

Coontakinta
28-03-2006, 02:47 PM
Have to agree spen, I deliberatly went the Tohatsu TLDi 90 over an E-tec because I had concerns over the use of the old FICHT technology and couldnt get past the fact that there were a number of problems with these motors in the past.

An excellent find indeed! ;)

have recommended the link to others on other forums I visit as a point of interest

bubble
28-03-2006, 06:46 PM
Coontakinta,

Let's get one fact straight.......

E-TEC IS NOT OLD FICHT TECHNOLOGY......

Get your facts right and read the links that have been provided.

spen175
28-03-2006, 08:01 PM
Bubbles,

they way I read Coontakinta's last post was that his misconception of E-tec being a rehashed Ficht had been cleared up by reading the linked articles and they helped him so that he was posting the link on other forums.

cheers
spen

davo
28-03-2006, 09:21 PM
My only concern would be that the Etec 60HP is the twin cylinder motor when everything else is 3 or 4 cylinder. The old carby Johnsons were no the most torquey compared to a 3 cylinder motors. If I was to go Etec then the 75HP 3 cylinder would be my choice. For the record I have a 60HP 4 stroke Yammy with 3 years @ 308hrs on the clock It pushes a 4.8m Fisher platey and I love it.

gif
29-03-2006, 06:45 AM
That article is a good summary

http://www.oceanskiffjournal.com/SubscriberContent/Articles/Vol01Issue05/General/ETEC1.aspx

If you have read it before have another look at teh section on CO emissions. It has just been ammended.

cheers

Gary

Coontakinta
29-03-2006, 02:09 PM
Geez bubble, Anybody would think, u sold these things to put food on the table. Settle petal!

Ur right though

E-TEC IS NOT OLD FICHT TECHNOLOY, & I never said that it was, I merely thought in my investigations into this product, that it was.

Hence my choice to go with the TLDi. Had I been armed with a review such as that listed here by spen, I possibly could have stuck with the
E-tec

Coontakinta
29-03-2006, 02:11 PM
Errr, sorry spen, saw ur rebuttle a little too late. :-[

Seahorse
29-03-2006, 09:29 PM
just solve the problem and go merc.

peter
31-03-2006, 07:02 PM
Onya Seahorse, for someone that knew nothing about motors your now an expert on it?????????

Seahorse
31-03-2006, 08:29 PM
never said i knew nothing about motors, just asked about the later models. last motor i had before this one was 90hp johno about 7 yrs ago on 17ft seafearer, then mercs before that. no one ever an expert , not even u peter.