Flush bags vrs muffs

[karrier]

Gday all this may have been mentioned before, any views on whether a flush bag has any advantage over using flush muffs. Trying to decide if to pay the extra and buy a flush bag
Cheers Karrier

[Sniper]

Both will do the job, though muffs are using water mains pressure to flush through the motor, where as using a flusing bag or drum the impellor works on it own. Have seen a few times down at the ramp, people starting their motor and no water coming out of their telltale. They say it worked fine at home with the ear muffs on, because the impellor was stuffed and the mains pressure doing the work instead.
Me personally, I use ear muffs but every couple of trips stick the leg in an old big that I have and flush it in it.
Cheers
Bill

[finga64]

Yep, I do both just because I have both methods and variety is the spice of life.
I have always wondered how the soluble oil would go in the bucket/bag flush to preserve the waterways a bit and maybe stop corrosion. My bigger boat gets used not as often as I would like due to it been over 200km from me.
Cheers Scott

[bin_lookin]

i have both drum &muffs use the drum more i then can keep an eye on the tell tail plus it quieter too keeps the neighbours happy we have water restrictions so the drum water does the lawn &garden after

[Craigo]

I have one of those fold-up bags and its been great. You don't get all the water splashing around as you do with muffs and can drain the water into the garden when you're finished. I fell more confident that you can walk away and do things whilst flushing the motor and not being worried about the muffs falling off as I have seen happen. I think he blamed the dog!! :-/

[StevenM]

Good thought re the bag that you can see water from telltale flow.

Makes me wonder and at times I just conect up the hose to engine and reverse flush (Etec) with out it running.

cheers

steven

[Dignity]

Been thinking of buying the bag as bin_looking said with water restrictions getting tighter we may be forced into using bags/drums. Don't know how to wash the trailer with it though. Level 3 restrictions will see the use of hose for washing vehicles, and I assume this means boats also as banned. Will have to be done with bucket.

sam

[The_Walrus]

I use a cut down 200 litres plastic drum and then water the garden plant using a bilge punt connected to garden hose.

Drums or flush bags are great as you can do other things while letting the engine run.

Luc

[karrier]

Thanks for the replys yes the water restrictions will bite hard soon and if you have both methods how can it hurt
Cheers
Karrier

[beatle]

I use the collapsible vinyl flushbag all the time it is much better than the muffs. If you buy the vinyl flushbag make sure you buy the one suitable for your motor. Some of the larger sizes are fairly big. Also check out the inside of the bag I bought one that had all the inner seams coated with silastic the silastic was floating around inside the bag in little globs I did not fancy this being sucked into the motor so I turned the bag inside out and picked all the silastic out of the inside of the bag and have had no problems.

[MILTON]

I still use muffs and have done for 25 - 30 years. I have had no problems as yet but still use a drum or bag every now and again and as said in a post before the town water preasure may give you a false reading at the tell tale.

MILTON

[steveg1100]

Tell me am I the only one that thinks trying to hose off a trailer with a bucket uses more water than using the hose.

[The_Walrus]

Go to your local car wash, the high pressure spray makes for light work.

Luc

[ahoj]

How long does one run the motor to flush it? anyone uses some detergents?

Ahoj

[The_Walrus]

I run mine until the tell tale water is warm, around 5 to 10 minutes .

Luc

[steveg1100]

If we all wash our boats at the garage does that mean we are turning their recycled water into saltwater.

[Dirtysanchez]

Guys, I found that most muffs are just garbage & more water leaks out than actually gets into the veins of the leg, on my old boat I had a 1st class set of muffs that never leaked, but foolishly sold them with the boat.
Haven't been able to find a set like em since, so thanks to Mr Bunnings warehouse a 80ltr plastic garbage bin ($12) and the motor gets a real good flush.
As mentioned by others, you can clean your fish / boat in the mean time, and then pour some of it on the lawn

I'm thinking of aralditing a hose coupling to the bin so I can just click the hose on and let it fill up on it's own

God help us if we got to level 3 restrictions
:'(

[btsah]

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[Angla]

I normally flush with the muffs (135 HP) Flush for 5 minutes as then I know the thermostat has opened. If you live next to the boat ramp then 2 minutes would be fine as the thermostat will not take as long to open due to the motor still being hot.

Chris

[seatime]

Morning all,

A question about flushing, probably been asked before.

If you are flushing the motor using the clip-on connection at the top of the leg, does it get sufficient flushing as the thermostat doesn't open without the motor running. If not all parts are seeing the freswater then the flushing method will allow corrosion to occur, which may be the fault of the manufacturer. I know it's drawing a long bow, but can flushing this way harm the motor in the long term.

Am I right in assuming the flushing attachment was installed to comply with noise regulations in US and Europe.

Another likely dumb question, is there much difference in the cooling passages between 4 strokes and E-TECs. I mean, is there a preferred flushing method or time for a particular engine type or size. I'm wondering if one type of engine is more prone to corrosion more than another, new engines that is. That's probably enough Qs for now.
cheers, Steve.

[abitfishy]

Edited in case I read gelsecs post wrong and make a fool of myself......will wait for others to reply.

[seatime]

Come on now, my posts can be read wrong, I find that hard to believe. :)

[abitfishy]

I read your post that you were flushing a standard outboard with muffs without the motor running....

[seatime]

No probs abitfishy, I haven't had much to do with the flushing attachment on the larger motors, but lately I've been using donks fitted with them.
I'm wondering how effective they are if the motor isn't running. cheers

[abitfishy]

I'm not the man to answer the question.......