The New Beast Arises

[Derek_Bullock]

This sounds to good to be true. #Anyone got any further details. #What is TFPQ role in this if at all. #See the highlighted section in red below.


Derek

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Katter tells of 'new beast' in Parliament

By Maria Hawthorne

September 11, 2006

BOB Katter announced the birth of a new political movement today - or did he?

In typically eccentric style, the independent member for the far north Queensland federal seat of Kennedy summoned journalists to his office to talk up a new "beast" emerging in the wake of last weekend's Queensland election.

The beast would ride the same “horse of discontent” that One Nation harnessed eight years ago, he said, except that the new movement's members knew where they stood on issues like competition policy.

Mr Katter, a former National, said he had been inundated by hundreds of calls over the past four months complaining about the vacuum in politics left by Labor and the Nationals abandoning their traditional policies.

Meetings will be held in New South Wales and Queensland over the next two months to iron out the future of the new movement.

But further details are sketchy.

Asked if the movement was going to be a new party, or a new network of independents, or who was involved, or how many members it might have, Mr Katter could not say.

“All I am saying is that groups are coming together and I'm not at liberty to go any further than that,” he said.

“It would be very foolish for me to go any further, secondly, and thirdly, there has been no final determination of the nature of the beast that will come forward.

“It will most certainly be there in the federal election.”

He said there was no coordination at the present moment “but for the next two months there will be”.

“It's a fair comment – is there anything happening out there if there's no-one in charge directing traffic? Yes, if you've got a mass movement taking place, that is the very nature of a mass movement,” he said.

“But it metastases very, very quickly into leadership, as we saw with One Nation.”

People who wanted to get aboard should contact his office, he said, but it would be inflating his involvement to say he was organising it.

Some current state Nationals members would be involved, as would groups like the Fishing Party and the Shooters Party, he said.

He blasted the Nationals for abandoning their original platform of building major infrastructure like roads and dams, and backing collective marketing for rural commodities – with AWB the sole remnant of single desk selling.

Nationals leader Lawrence Springborg was a very nice person, he said, but had gone straight into parliament from school – “and I think that he proves the failure of career politicians in Australia”.

The Beattie government had failed on electricity, health and water and yet had been returned in a landslide, Mr Katter said.

“Here's a Government failing on the three key areas of government and yet they have pulled off a fourth massive victory,” he said.

“And it is a complete failure of the Opposition to perform in Queensland.”

[BAIT_MAN]

This sounds to good to be true. #Anyone got any further details. #What is TFPQ role in this if at all. #See the highlighted section in red below.


Derek


Some current state Nationals members would be involved, as would groups like the Fishing Party and the Shooters Party, he said.



I dont think so. No one has talked to us on this matter.

Regards Shane

[Derek_Bullock]

This sounds to good to be true. Anyone got any further details. What is TFPQ role in this if at all. See the highlighted section in red below.


Derek


Some current state Nationals members would be involved, as would groups like the Fishing Party and the Shooters Party, he said.



I dont think so. No one has talked to us on this matter.

Regards Shane

Thanks Shane.

Is Bob Smith able to comment on a National Level for the Fishing Party

Thanks.


Derek

[kc]

TFPQ met with Mr Katter some months ago and was invited to join a collective of parties and independants.

It politely but firmly refused.

The broad brush nature of Mt Katters organisation was/is at odds with the mission statement and aims of the party.

Bob is a very popular politician in NQ but our constituency is, and needs to be, across all areas of the state.
To some degree it is nice to be "asked" and this is clear recognition of our growing importance in the "political mix" but TFPQ stands alone and is likely to continue that way.

This has been made clear to the Australian today after this story was published and we would expect some rebutal of Mr Katters remarks. It was both unethical and without any basis in fact for Mr Katter to name TFPQ as one of his "collective", we are NOT.

Our only involvement with his group, and any other political organisation, will be preference discussions based on best outcomes for fishing during the next election lead-up.

KC

[RASA]

Derek

The Fishing Party is an INDEPENDENT Party who has discussions with other parties in the best interest of fishing outcomes. Bob Katter has not talked or met with me but meeting invitations are expected from a bevy of others.

What does interest me is how all of a sudden the fishing vote is important to all and sundry because rumors abound of OTHER party's having fishing meetings!!!!!!!!!!


Bob Smith

[fishingmaddad]

Bob,
Given in the past twenty four hours I have been informed of new and increased zoning changes from Cairns and the Rocky/Yepoon areas (and guess what 31August appears to be the date for all), if reports of one batch of 40,000 protest signatures during the Brissie Protest Rally and others delivered prior giving a total of approx 100,000 persons in the S-E Qld area conveying their disgust to the zonings and changes without meaningful local consultation n scientific fact.
This number would basically represent significant % of the voting Public. Enough, certainly, to make any Political Party take notice.

The Libs own Analyist George Brandus on Saturday night summed it perfectly when he said words to the effect that " the public made a choice of a government they held in contempt over an opposition that they, the public had no confidence in. "
Bring on "The Fishing Party Queensland " the voice of folk across the state who also like to fish . They have my vote!

[RASA]

Check this out > http://www.rightsatwork.com.au/community/showthread.php?t=304



Bob Smith

[luress]

Wouldnt trust Katter as far as I could throw him,seen him stand up at a green zone meeting shoot his mouth of how bad they will be and then wasnt even in canberra when the vote was put up. BOB YOUR NOSE IS GROWING
regards lures >:(

[RASA]

There is an article about this BEAST in Wednesdays AUSTRALIAN under STREWTH if anybody has it and can post it. Stars are Katter and KC



Bob Smith

[Derek_Bullock]

There is an article about this BEAST in Wednesdays AUSTRALIAN under STREWTH if anybody has it and can post it. Stars are Katter and KC



Bob Smith

Here it is


Fishing for support

WACKY Queensland independent Bob Katter's threats of establishing a new political "beast" have led to speculation among Canberra pundits on what sort of animal he has in mind. Although the composition of the beast may remain a secret for a while, it is clear that it is more likely to be fowl than fish. Katter nominated Queensland fishing lobbies as potential supporters. However, Kevin Collins, the chairman of the Fishing Party Queensland, made it clear to Strewth yesterday that a conversation with Katter didn't a political movement make. "Our preferences elected Barnaby Joyce at the last election," Collins said. "Based on our performance at the Queensland state election, we could get 200,000 fishing votes of our own at the next federal election on the eastern seaboard," Collins said from his seafood restaurant. Raw prawns need not apply.

By the way, how many actual votes did the Independents endorsed by TFPQ actually get and what percentage is that of the Queensland vote.


Derek

[Derek_Bullock]

I have checked with the Electoral Commission Queensland website. http://www.ecq.qld.gov.au/elections/state/state2006/results/summary.html

My calculations from there show a total of 6710 votes in Barron River (2294), Cairns (1593), Cleveland (1724) and Townsville (1099) out of a possible 2,067,235 votes.

That equates to .33% of the total vote.

Is that correct ? ? ? ?


Derek

[choppa]

derek,,, without taking the wind from your sail........


i ask the same question,,,,,

choppa,,

i sit back a lot now and read these reports,,,,,without throwing in a comment,,,,beats cryptic answers anyday,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[Derek_Bullock]

Choppa

I am interested in the statistics of it all.


Derek

[Derek_Bullock]

However they did average just over 8% in those seats. If TFPQ was in full force and took 8% of the total vote that would have been just over 165,000 votes across the State.

Whereas the Greens got a confirmed 155,804 votes

Interesting ...................


Derek

[Glind]

I think the figure was 8.8% in the seats they stood. Enough to give the big boys a fright.
Tim

[kc]

Statistics!!!! Yes 8.6% average over the 4 seats. If we replicate this state wide it is about 180,000 votes. Fair to say some areas would be more and some less. The best news was the 8% in Brisbane.

So an 8% average vote would be enough to get a senate seat (along with some preference deals).

Makes for a very interesting next senate election.

A Fishing Party senator in Canberra would give the party both credibility and more importantly the resources to really put fishing on the front foot for a change.

This is now a realistic target. It appears from information I have been able to glean is that Family first averaged about 6.5% and this was on the back of significant media coverege. We got none as we were not a registered party. All signs are positive.

KC

[Loco_Pez]

TFPQ independents performed unbelievably well in the state election. Considering these guys came in with zero profile, compared to the major parties & greens, 8% is fantastic. Imagine how well they will go in the next election now that they have established more presence on the political landscape.

LP

[Luvinit]

I am happy to see the TFPQ results, but we should all be rather wary of extrapolating those into the future. There were a couple of issues that worked in our favour at the last election that may not be present again.

1. The very real and very imminent threat of MBMP closures proposed by AMCS
2. The overall disenchantment of the electorate with both the major parties causing people to actively search for somewhere to place their protest vote.

I was not surprised at the big increase in votes to independants and fringe parties nor was I surprised at how many of those votes exhausted rather than placing their preferences. Beattie's prediction of a protest vote DID eventuate but it DIDNT go to the coalition it just dissipated all over the place.

Regardless of whether we achieve a better result next time, the aim is IMHO to ensure that fishing interests receive reasonable representation and consideration in government. This can be achieved by just registering the primary vote and handing off preferences. All 3 major parties analyse the hell out of the voting statistics and a big primary vote for TFPQ will be noticed regardless of whether a senator is ever elected or not. I havent checked the stats for the other seats, but I noticed in Cleveland that TFPQ Shane Boese effectively negated the GRN vote. that should tell the people in power that pandering to the GRN vote will not necessarily do them any good because they'll lose just as many votes as they gain. the end result is that they should consider the views of all sides and make a reasonable compromise judgement on the issue. With a bit of luck that will mean real scientifically based management strategies to ensure sustainable and environmentally friendly USE of the fishery resource.

[Derek_Bullock]

Ok so who is telling the truth or are the papers telling lies and crap. The below was in yesterdays press.

Katter claims support for new political force

Independent MP Bob Katter claims to have support from minor parties in setting up a new political alliance.

Mr Katter, who is the member for the north Queensland seat of Kennedy, says members of Family First, One Nation and the Fishing Party have shown interest in forming a new alliance.

The former Nationals member announced weeks ago he was ready to unleash a new political beast.

He will not be pushed for details but says the alliance will not exactly be a party and does not yet have a name.

"We will create some sort of party type system, I can assure you that ... will not fall into the sort of hole that the current parties have fallen into," he said.

Mr Katter says political parties have ruined Australian farmers and producers.

"If we end up with exactly the same structure they have, which in Australia we call a party, then we will end up with the same outcome that there is now," he said.

"People have got to be allowed to exercise their conscience, listen to the people in their electorate. they don't want the silly stupid economic rationalism, competition policy, privatisation whatever you want to call it."

Mr Katter says there are already 16 potential branches for the alliance and that members of the alliance will come together under one badge and have the same policy goals.

"There will be a badging and there will be core principles, which you will sign and you will agree to vote on to move in the Parliament of Australia," he said.

"People will know where they are going and they will have an identification badge."

[Fisher_Boats]

Derek.. I think KC might be a realistic and Mr Katter an idealistic........ :)

What press was it in ???

Col