Sea Deck or Aquadeck

[Dignity]

Looking to install a decking material in the old tub and tossing up between Sea Dek and a version of Aquadeck called Low Profile Walkeasy, the price difference is not not much but the main differences are:

1. Sea Dek - 5 mm thick made out of PE/EVA and probably a bit softer on the feet
2. Low Profile Walkeasy -3mm thick made out of 70% cork

The original Aqua Dek is pretty tough on the feet, I tend to go barefooted all the time, as it has square shouldered dots whereas the LPW looks similar to Sea Dek with rounded dots. I'd prefer the lower profile but feel the cork compound will still be harder on the feet than Sea Dek but on the plus side the LPW sheet size is better suited to my layout.

Has anyone put the Low Profile Walkeasy in their boat and have any feedback on it.

[blacklab]

Dignity, I have no experience with both products, but I am interested in which one you use and your and result.
My boat is in re build mode, floor has just been flow coated grey, need to put something down.
I've fully glassed in the tank, so no real obstructions in the way of fitting something. Was, or have been looking at the different types of rubber matting available, for ease of pulling up and cleaning after a " bloody" day out. Had carpet glued down before, didn't want to go back to that, cleaning it was a shocking job, I didn't really consider before the products you were mentioning, but, I suppose they would be a hell of a lot better for cleaning than carpet.
So, interested in your final choice sir.......

Col

[scottar]

Probably not cheap but these guys do some flash stuff

https://machineit.com.au/

Personally I'm not a fan of the Aquadeck - way too hard for comfort. It is hard wearing though

[Dignity]

Dignity, I have no experience with both products, but I am interested in which one you use and your and result.
My boat is in re build mode, floor has just been flow coated grey, need to put something down.
I've fully glassed in the tank, so no real obstructions in the way of fitting something. Was, or have been looking at the different types of rubber matting available, for ease of pulling up and cleaning after a " bloody" day out. Had carpet glued down before, didn't want to go back to that, cleaning it was a shocking job, I didn't really consider before the products you were mentioning, but, I suppose they would be a hell of a lot better for cleaning than carpet.
So, interested in your final choice sir.......

Col

Col, been the carpet way, hard to clean, if it gets wet it's uncomfortable when overnighting and talk about smell, takes a few days to go away. There is another product called Diamond Deck but it does seem to wear a bit in high traffic areas so discounted that. The Aquadeck also needs to be glued down but no big issue, it's the low profile like as I have a kill tank with a 2 piece lid so cant go to the very edge with anything. I thought the LPW would do but have since read the specs and it needs to be sealed with an acrylic sealer, not sure about going that way now. I am inclined to go the Sea Dek and route a profile into the edges to overcome the extra thickness.
Sam

Link to regupol site, it's nearly double the weight at 4kg per square metre which is why I discounted it originally.
https://www.regupol.com.au/products/fitness-sports-leisure/everroll-rubber-flooring-for-marine/everroll-granite-marine-range/

[Dignity]

Probably not cheap but these guys do some flash stuff

https://machineit.com.au/

Personally I'm not a fan of the Aquadeck - way too hard for comfort. It is hard wearing though
Scott, came across them when searching out decking, they use Sea Dek, if you want nice fancy patterns cut into it they will do it for you but I'm not fussed on any patterns. Another product I had originally discounted was Regupol, might revisit it though.

[DATCOL]

Dignity I have seen a plastic 5 Mm tube mating from Clark rubber it is built like a lattice with top tubes ruining across the bottom tubes so it is about 10Mm thick with about 10Mm spacing's between was soft & smooth to walk on but may get hard with age I have never used it only checked it out in store
COL

[brett62]

Dignity I have seen a plastic 5 Mm tube mating from Clark rubber it is built like a lattice with top tubes ruining across the bottom tubes so it is about 10Mm thick with about 10Mm spacing's between was soft & smooth to walk on but may get hard with age I have never used it only checked it out in store
COL

That would be bar mat and my boat came with it on the swim platform. Bloody great under foot and no way you can slip, you just roll it up for cleaning. It is about $100 a meter if its the same stuff Col. It hasn't gone hard and was living in the sun full time but the colour has faded.

[Dignity]

Dignity I have seen a plastic 5 Mm tube mating from Clark rubber it is built like a lattice with top tubes ruining across the bottom tubes so it is about 10Mm thick with about 10Mm spacing's between was soft & smooth to walk on but may get hard with age I have never used it only checked it out in store
COL

Col, I know the stuff, as Brett says its the old style bar mat. It feels soft at first but after a day on it your feet end up sore unless you are wearing some footwear, also it probably weighs more as well.

sam

[brett62]

Col, I know the stuff, as Brett says its the old style bar mat. It feels soft at first but after a day on it your feet end up sore unless you are wearing some footwear, also it probably weighs more as well.

sam

Sam it does weigh a fair bit. I would not use it for the main deck. I am been looking for what to use also Sam and I am just about decided that I will go back with carpet. There are many products out and you can certainly spend many dollars on some of them. I am not going to glue the carpet down thinking of using clips so I can remove if I feel the need.

[blacklab]

Hi Dignity, I think you said you were barefoot most of the time, that in it self would make the choice harder I suppose, I always have foot ware on so no issue there for me.
I don't want to glue anything down, so that tube matting may well be good. I know there is another one, similar in style, but much more heavier duty with more a square profile, but its about 15mm in height. I do have one issue, the set up with my S/S rocket launcher, has me just clearing it while walking underneath, just the way my launcher is styled and how it fits. That standard tube stuff, I think the Down rigger shop guy imported heaps of it and sells it for half the price Clarke Rubber and the likes sell it for, he has a web site, The down rigger shop or something similar, I bought one of his aluminium down riggers a few years back, good product.
I think I will probably go with that type of tube matting, sounds easy to roll up and remove and should be pretty slip proof and easy to fit, I believe they just wire tie it together as the widths are only 900 or 1200 or so.
I like the look of some of those design type pattern ones, but might be a bit to flash for my fishing rig ......

Col

[BigE]

The tube matting will burn your feet if you go bare feet I have it in my yalta and can't stand it. got wear shoes if fishing more than a couple hours.

BigE

[blacklab]

BigE,
So, if your wearing shoes, how do you find the stuff ??
I'd do my self an injury bare feet fishing, I'm a cluts !

Col

[BigE]

it's easy to clean and drains well, but i hate fishing in shoes.

BigE

[blacklab]

it's easy to clean and drains well, but i hate fishing in shoes.

BigE

Thanks for feed back BigE..

Col

[Moonlighter]

Col, I know the stuff, as Brett says its the old style bar mat. It feels soft at first but after a day on it your feet end up sore unless you are wearing some footwear, also it probably weighs more as well.

sam

Andy at the Downrigger shop is selling the tubular matting for near half the price that Clark Rubber sells it for. In various colours.

[gford001]

Good thread. I'm mid-rebuild and wondering what to put down on the floor too. Theres some EVA foam on Ebay looks ok. Was leaning towards that. Decently priced and should look ok I reckon. Some with fake teak decking pattern, but i found some solid color ones, which i prefer

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[tunaticer]

I personally would avoid anything eva or rubberised.
Mate used velcro to keep his carpet in place, works well and you can remove the carpet easily for a water blast when you want.

[Dignity]

it's easy to clean and drains well, but i hate fishing in shoes.

BigE

Just got to make sure you run the bottom tubes fore and aft otherwise it won't drain, saw it once, the bloke had only just installed it, when I asked him why it was because when worked out the layout he could buy less material. Once he realised his error he just shook his head and said he'd see how it went.

[Dignity]

Hi Dignity, I think you said you were barefoot most of the time, that in it self would make the choice harder I suppose, I always have foot ware on so no issue there for me.
I don't want to glue anything down, so that tube matting may well be good. I know there is another one, similar in style, but much more heavier duty with more a square profile, but its about 15mm in height. I do have one issue, the set up with my S/S rocket launcher, has me just clearing it while walking underneath, just the way my launcher is styled and how it fits. That standard tube stuff, I think the Down rigger shop guy imported heaps of it and sells it for half the price Clarke Rubber and the likes sell it for, he has a web site, The down rigger shop or something similar, I bought one of his aluminium down riggers a few years back, good product.
I think I will probably go with that type of tube matting, sounds easy to roll up and remove and should be pretty slip proof and easy to fit, I believe they just wire tie it together as the widths are only 900 or 1200 or so.
I like the look of some of those design type pattern ones, but might be a bit to flash for my fishing rig ......

Col

Col, here is a link to Banana doing a refurb on his (then) Noosa Cat, there's pics of the flooring in there, easy as pie to wash down, very low profile but you do need to wear shoes,
http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/showthread.php/198073-3100-Noosacat-birthday-renovations-Thanks-Todd

[Dignity]

I personally would avoid anything eva or rubberised.
Mate used velcro to keep his carpet in place, works well and you can remove the carpet easily for a water blast when you want.
Why not EVA, Sea Dek is PE/EVA based and is used on multi million dollar boats.

[blacklab]

Dignity, that stuff does look good on Bananas boat. bit hard to see it in detail, What is the name of the stuff he used ? It looks as if it's a glue down type.
There's quite a few products on the market now to chose from, i must admit.
I guess I'll pull the trigger soon, I was liking the idea of not gluing something down like the old stinky carpet that was there, realistically, like a mate has done, he has used domes in the floor so he can unclip the carpet when needed,, I suppose after a new transom, stringers floor etc, there's no way I'm going to put a hole in it for clips, velcro is an option I suppose, but I'm just So over carpet. I've just flow coated the new floor a grey plain colour and am in the process at the minute of doing the same to the inside sides as well, just waiting for the weather to pick up a bit, still getting some cold days down here in Melbourne, So I guess I may well look at lining the sides as well, was thinking of that felt type carpet I saw somewhere advertised. Still lots to do.
I look forward to your decision Dignity and of course some photo's, you shall be the guinea pig ! LOL
But it is something that you do put thought into, with all the options etc.

Cheers
Col

[DATCOL]

The Gull Wing that i had was fitted with good quality marine carpet in 4 pieces & held in with pres studs, It was great just pull it out hose it off hang it on the fence to dry clip it back in ready to go again

[shakey55]

It’s nice to have something under your feet. I had carpet in my old boat and yes gets smelly from time time.

The new boat had a bare floor and went through the exercise of what to put on the floor. Carpet glued or Velcro was not considered.

In the end I bought rubber backed mates the size I wanted from Clarke rubber and put them on the deck where I wanted them. Easy to take out and wash down.


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[sjp2]

guess we are all talking about glass floors here ,but i was considering seadeck or similar for my alum checker plate floor ,has anyone used it on aluminum ,i was worried about corrosion from a buildup of salt with the space between the checker plate and seadeck..

[Any_Weather]

Hi SJP, I have it on my aluminium floor but I have flat sheet only. I think you would probably struggle to get it to stay glued down on the edges with chequer? The adhesive is extremely strong when in full contact but I don’t think it would hold so well without full contact. The corrosion may well also be an issue as you say.

Cheers
Lee


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[Dignity]

Dignity, that stuff does look good on Bananas boat. bit hard to see it in detail, What is the name of the stuff he used ? It looks as if it's a glue down type.
There's quite a few products on the market now to chose from, i must admit.
I guess I'll pull the trigger soon, I was liking the idea of not gluing something down like the old stinky carpet that was there, realistically, like a mate has done, he has used domes in the floor so he can unclip the carpet when needed,, I suppose after a new transom, stringers floor etc, there's no way I'm going to put a hole in it for clips, velcro is an option I suppose, but I'm just So over carpet. I've just flow coated the new floor a grey plain colour and am in the process at the minute of doing the same to the inside sides as well, just waiting for the weather to pick up a bit, still getting some cold days down here in Melbourne, So I guess I may well look at lining the sides as well, was thinking of that felt type carpet I saw somewhere advertised. Still lots to do.
I look forward to your decision Dignity and of course some photo's, you shall be the guinea pig ! LOL
But it is something that you do put thought into, with all the options etc.

Cheers
Col

Col, the colour was steel grey although on the Web it does look a bit brown, it does need a proprietary glue unlike Sea Dek which has a sticky back. Banana put that down in 2014, I was on board last week and there is no indication of it lifting or wearing, it was just a fraction lighter than the sample I had. I might just have to get used to wearing footwear, after all I think I'm about the only one who goes barefoot in my boat.

Distributed by Comcork, if your interested I'll give you the details of ghe lovely young lady I've been dealing with, she is very helpful. I have a sample you can have, whereabouts are you.

http://www.safetyflooring.com.au/aquadeck/

[Dignity]

It’s nice to have something under your feet. I had carpet in my old boat and yes gets smelly from time time.

The new boat had a bare floor and went through the exercise of what to put on the floor. Carpet glued or Velcro was not considered.

In the end I bought rubber backed mates the size I wanted from Clarke rubber and put them on the deck where I wanted them. Easy to take out and wash down.


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I tried that but found when leaning over the side they could give way, nearly lost one of my crew overboard like that. I did look at ute tray liner but the weight did put me off. I did find a soft light weight mat in the reject shop but it slid around, I did have plenty of artificial carpet glue that was going to go off eventually so I put that on the base, used a tile glue spreader to puts some ribs in it, tried to get plenty of opposing directions in it, let it dry out. Very light, easy to wash down at sea, pulled up as it wasnt stuck down but eventually it moved as the dried out adhesive flattened and lost its grip. If I could get it in any colour oher than black I'd be putting that in as it was very soft underfoot.

[Dignity]

guess we are all talking about glass floors here ,but i was considering seadeck or similar for my alum checker plate floor ,has anyone used it on aluminum ,i was worried about corrosion from a buildup of salt with the space between the checker plate and seadeck..

Sea Dek has a self adhesive backing and if you clean your deck first you won't get any build up beneath it. In fact you need a heat gun and some decent muscles to lift once on. I do like it but the higher profile doesn't suit my application.

Oops, just reread your post and you have checker plate, that's a whole new kettle of fish.

[brett62]

Col, the colour was steel grey although on the Web it does look a bit brown, it does need a proprietary glue unlike Sea Dek which has a sticky back. Banana put that down in 2014, I was on board last week and there is no indication of it lifting or wearing, it was just a fraction lighter than the sample I had. I might just have to get used to wearing footwear, after all I think I'm about the only one who goes barefoot in my boat.

Distributed by Comcork, if your interested I'll give you the details of ghe lovely young lady I've been dealing with, she is very helpful. I have a sample you can have, whereabouts are you.

http://www.safetyflooring.com.au/aquadeck/

Sam this looks interesting. What is the cost ?

[Dignity]

Brett 3 sheets plus adhesive delivered is around $630 from memory, trying to find the quote but cheaper if you pick up from the Gold Coast direct, other colours could be dearer if it has to come from Melbourne. If you want more info send me a PM.

[chocolatemoose]

We are the vic cutters and agents for UDEK by ultralon. a kiwi company now owned by Gulf rubber. its PE foam based flooring. we have been with seadeck, our own melors brand and used just about every other kind there is :P . the reason we wanted to go with ultralon Udek was for that reduced shrinkage and wear reistances

When we used EVA based foam we had to design in a certain way to avoid butt joins, as the product would shrink a few mm over time and cause gaps to stand out. it also lifted in corners after exposed to sun.

Here is a few of the boats done recently.
check out this video also.
https://www.facebook.com/reflexmarinetractionproducts/videos/1444606018919771/
https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/33770869_427724544368606_137127688602124288_n.jpg? _nc_cat=105&oh=39e48d084dcda3c807d8ace6dbab8be9&oe=5C62E065
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[Dignity]

Thanks Moose, one I hadn't found in my searches, looks like they do a U-Dot which look the goods. This looks like a lower profile dot which should be more comfortable, you don't happen to know the weight per Sq metre by any chance, it's not on their website.

[blacklab]

[QUOTE=Dignity;1647367]Col, the colour was steel grey although on the Web it does look a bit brown, it does need a proprietary glue unlike Sea Dek which has a sticky back. Banana put that down in 2014, I was on board last week and there is no indication of it lifting or wearing, it was just a fraction lighter than the sample I had. I might just have to get used to wearing footwear, after all I think I'm about the only one who goes barefoot in my boat.

Distributed by Comcork, if your interested I'll give you the details of ghe lovely young lady I've been dealing with, she is very helpful. I have a sample you can have, whereabouts are you.

Thanks Dignity, you've been a great help, some good options there to look at.
I'm in Melbourne.
I might continue with my flow coating and fitting out, including a full re wire, so I'm a wee bit off needing flooring. I've swapped out the old pedestal seating for new fibre glass seat boxes and nice new Comfortable seats, So i'll get that all sorted then make a decision on what to put on the floor.
Interesting how many others are mulling over the same issue, so been an interesting topic.
Thanks Dignity

Col

[Dignity]

Col, chocolateMoose just opened up another option

[gford001]

Brett 3 sheets plus adhesive delivered is around $630 from memory, trying to find the quote but cheaper if you pick up from the Gold Coast direct, other colours could be dearer if it has to come from Melbourne. If you want more info send me a PM.Reckon you could send the details to me too? Gonna need flooring when I'm done on my build too.....

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[MyWay]

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I have looked at so many of this flooring options and decided to go with Sea Deck. It was so good, felt so nice under feet looked so good too.
if i ever going to do again will go with Sea Deck .

It's also very easy to clean and worth every cent.

here is some photos before and after

[catshark]

that sea deck is tip top. i wouldnt mind having that, looks the business.

[Dirtyfuzz]

Hey Sam do you know of anyone here on the sunshine coast that measures up and makes templates for the flooring to send to someone like “machine it” or other companies to have it cnc cut, I recently painted the floor with kiwigrip and I’m not happy with it as it’s bloody hard to keep clean!


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[Dignity]

Hey Sam do you know of anyone here on the sunshine coast that measures up and makes templates for the flooring to send to someone like “machine it” or other companies to have it cnc cut, I recently painted the floor with kiwigrip and I’m not happy with it as it’s bloody hard to keep clean!


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There is a guy in the next street behind Al's that actually does it, check with him.

[Lovey80]

The yanks have been using this stuff for years. I hear conflicting reports on how easy it is to clean. Some say easy and others bitch about it. I’m really keen to try it out on my next boat. It feels good under foot.

[Dignity]

It seems every product has its ups and downs

[MyWay]

Hey Sam do you know of anyone here on the sunshine coast that measures up and makes templates for the flooring to send to someone like “machine it” or other companies to have it cnc cut, I recently painted the floor with kiwigrip and I’m not happy with it as it’s bloody hard to keep clean!


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I have used this guys, if any help to you .
Job was 5 :addfav::addfav::addfav::addfav::addfav:

https://www.maritimecc.com.au ask for Adrian

[swof63]

It seems every product has its ups and downs

Especially roller coasters.


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[Dignity]

I have used this guys, if any help to you .
Job was 5 :addfav::addfav::addfav::addfav::addfav:

https://www.maritimecc.com.au ask for Adrian

Ooh, soon as I see the words CAD, SCANS, DRAFTING, ROUTER CUTTING - I immediately see $, $, $. They look great but I'm after something that basically does its job on a working boat. It used to be a family/fishing boat but now primarily fishing.

[chocolatemoose]

yeah a full on job isnt c heap... it really does vary from boat to boat. but. roughly 700 per sheet for a full template. cad, cut and install. each sheet is 2x1........you can buy straight sheeting and have a crack yourself howver

[Crooked]

I'm just looking at potential flooring options for my boat rebuild and remembered this thread. What did you end up going with Dignity? I've had a look at the aquadeck and got a quote, 1800x900 sheet $250, considering I would need 4 it starts to get fairly expensive even when laying yourself. Has anyone had any experience with the cheaper eva foam alternatives that are out there?

[Dignity]

I'm just looking at potential flooring options for my boat rebuild and remembered this thread. What did you end up going with Dignity? I've had a look at the aquadeck and got a quote, 1800x900 sheet $250, considering I would need 4 it starts to get fairly expensive even when laying yourself. Has anyone had any experience with the cheaper eva foam alternatives that are out there?

I use Ultralon U- Dot. Easy to apply, sticks really well but does take a bit of cleaning. Not at home atm but if you send me a PM and I'll get some details for you when I get back.

[Almako]

The problem with Machine-IT is there customer service sucks. Never respond to emails or phone calls it's as if they don't want your business and it's all to hard for them. I asked for a quote installed they gave me a price that didn't include install and haven't bothered to respond to me. I'm sick of buying from companies that don't need my business. A shame it's a top product it's just in the wrong hands.