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lembo
10-10-2017, 09:48 AM
Hey guys. Any owners of 2300 noosa cats. What does it weigh on trailer? I'm looking at survey built one. I'm guessing about 3.2 tonne. What do you tow with? I have dmax which could only do ramp work I woukdnt tow it on highway. Might need to go a cruiser. Anyone towing with rangers/bt50 up highway? It's a survey built on steel trailer tri axle.

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Noelm
10-10-2017, 10:11 AM
I think your Dmax would be the same as a BT50 or the like! a 'cruiser would probably be the best, not sure on how legal though.

ranmar850
10-10-2017, 02:34 PM
Sounds more Duramax than Dmax ;)

peterbo3
10-10-2017, 03:53 PM
Perhaps you could ring Wayne & ask him?

scottar
10-10-2017, 07:32 PM
Shoot Soulfish a pm. Think he said his is close to 4 ton loaded on the trailer. The cruiser needed the full lovells upgrades to tow legally.

Dirtyfuzz
10-10-2017, 08:15 PM
Have a 2016 Bt 50 towing a 6.2kc which at a guess would be around 3-3.5t loaded for fishing, tows fine at 90kph, never bothered to go faster!


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rexaway123
11-10-2017, 07:49 AM
My 2300 on his lighter weight stainless trailer weighs 3.2 full loaded fuel etc
with twin 150s
from weigh bridge

tows easily and stable with a 2016 ford ranger and legal

soulfish has 2700 or 3000 model

Dignity
11-10-2017, 07:55 AM
Shoot Soulfish a pm. Think he said his is close to 4 ton loaded on the trailer. The cruiser needed the full lovells upgrades to tow legally.

Better be quick as he's off to Vegas Friday.

scottar
11-10-2017, 08:09 AM
My 2300 on his lighter weight stainless trailer weighs 3.2 full loaded fuel etc
with twin 150s
from weigh bridge

tows easily and stable with a 2016 ford ranger and legal

soulfish has 2700 or 3000 model

Oops my bad. It is a 2700, not a 2300.

lembo
11-10-2017, 05:11 PM
My 2300 on his lighter weight stainless trailer weighs 3.2 full loaded fuel etc
with twin 150s
from weigh bridge

tows easily and stable with a 2016 ford ranger and legal

soulfish has 2700 or 3000 model
Does the ranger tow it well at highway speeds?

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Flex
11-10-2017, 06:09 PM
Anyone own a 660nc or 2300/24000 and are able to give an indication of fuel economy.

Reading all the test reports on the NC website and they seem to get fairly crappy economy. This is going off 3-4 tests with various 150hp outboards.

At 4500 it says they are running around 50-52km/h doing around 60l hour combined.
That's 0.8km/litre.
This was for verado/merc and 150 Yamaha.
That's fairly shitty economy really . Also fairly ordinary speeds. 4500 rpm for 52km/h isn't that great for offshore boat.

The reports say the best they get is 1.2km per l at 3000rpm doing 35km. But what's the point in that?

I would have expected with 150 4 strokes should get about 1.2km/litre around the 4500-5000 mark.

Anyone care to share their figures?


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rexaway123
12-10-2017, 12:11 PM
I have self imposed speed limit of 90 no matter what road I on
trailer stamped max speed 100 anyways
might go 100 if I was driving a f250

fuel average fir me is always just worse than 1:1
so if I do 100 km I use 105l of fuel
combination driving fast, troll etc
unless weather very bad and u pushing into it then a bit more

always this using digital fuel gauges and 4 blade props on my twin 150s

feral cat
14-10-2017, 05:23 PM
Anyone own a 660nc or 2300/24000 and are able to give an indication of fuel economy.

Reading all the test reports on the NC website and they seem to get fairly crappy economy. This is going off 3-4 tests with various 150hp outboards.

At 4500 it says they are running around 50-52km/h doing around 60l hour combined.
That's 0.8km/litre.
This was for verado/merc and 150 Yamaha.
That's fairly shitty economy really . Also fairly ordinary speeds. 4500 rpm for 52km/h isn't that great for offshore boat.

The reports say the best they get is 1.2km per l at 3000rpm doing 35km. But what's the point in that?

I would have expected with 150 4 strokes should get about 1.2km/litre around the 4500-5000 mark.

Anyone care to share their figures?


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I have a 660NC with twin 115 efi four strokes. On the bridge with 100ltr fuel is 3200kg with standard NC trailer, Add 450ltr esky space of ice and another 400ltr fuel (500 total) and gear and i think you get the picture.
Fuel eco on big loaded trips is around 1.25ltr per km at 5000rpm at 24knts consistantly over around 350km per trip. Smaller day trip with less weight onboard is a bit better economy.With 115's the top speed is 32knts but a set of 135mercs or 150hp yammy's would be ideal as the 115hp is just ok. I swing 13.5x15 solas props.
To get a 660 or a 2300 series to be consistantly averaging 1ltr per km would be an awesome machine but would have to have new motors i would think to achieve that.
Justin

Lovey80
15-10-2017, 03:40 PM
Anyone own a 660nc or 2300/24000 (tel:2300/24000) and are able to give an indication of fuel economy.

Reading all the test reports on the NC website and they seem to get fairly crappy economy. This is going off 3-4 tests with various 150hp outboards.

At 4500 it says they are running around 50-52km/h doing around 60l hour combined.
That's 0.8km/litre.
This was for verado/merc and 150 Yamaha.
That's fairly shitty economy really . Also fairly ordinary speeds. 4500 rpm for 52km/h isn't that great for offshore boat.

The reports say the best they get is 1.2km per l at 3000rpm doing 35km. But what's the point in that?

I would have expected with 150 4 strokes should get about 1.2km/litre around the 4500-5000 (tel:4500-5000) mark.

Anyone care to share their figures?


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flex my little 5.2KC only gets 1.2km/litre fully loaded with 4 on board and a chop and 1.4km/litre at its best and it's only running 60hp 4 strokes and a hell of a lot lighter boat. I would be amazed to see those figures running 300hp on 2.5+? Tonne of boat.

Cape Crusader
15-10-2017, 04:05 PM
[QUOTE=Flex;1636854]Anyone own a 660nc or 2300/24000 and are able to give an indication of fuel economy.

Reading all the test reports on the NC website and they seem to get fairly crappy economy. This is going off 3-4 tests with various 150hp outboards.

At 4500 it says they are running around 50-52km/h doing around 60l hour combined.
That's 0.8km/litre.
This was for verado/merc and 150 Yamaha.
That's fairly shitty economy really . Also fairly ordinary speeds. 4500 rpm for 52km/h isn't that great for offshore boat.

The reports say the best they get is 1.2km per l at 3000rpm doing 35km. But what's the point in that?

I would have expected with 150 4 strokes should get about 1.2km/litre around the 4500-5000 mark.

Anyone care to share their figures?


G'day
Just by way of comparison, albeit a little lighter with less torque, we have a KC2400 with 140's and we constantly get 1km per litre, slightly better on a long run at speed in chop. This is actual usage, not gauges. We usually run with about 350l of fuel and 3 pob. This 1lpkm seems pretty constant with various KC2400's I've read about, although a mate has one with 135 honda's and reckons he gets better than that. So those figures above for a bit heavier cat with bigger block engines seem about right to me. From memory we get about 50kph at around 4200rpm usually. You can cover a lot of water at that speed, especially when you can sit down and enjoy it. Hopefully this info is of some interest
Cheers
Rod

Flex
15-10-2017, 04:53 PM
Cheers all,
I would have expected around 1:1 with a 150hp Noosacat give or take a bit.
I noticed a huge difference in test reports for the 150hp motor on the 2300/2400. Some saying 1:1 others 0.8km/l or worse.
Maybe that's with factory alloy props out of the box. Doing 400km round trip at 1:1 is much better than 0.8/0.7..

If a 2400kc gets 1:1 with 140 suzukis then nc should do similar with same motor. I don't think there's an enormous difference in weight between the two.

Anyhow, I'm about to be the new owner of a 2300nc with 150's so I'll keep you informed for anyone who ants to know..


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Lovey80
15-10-2017, 05:12 PM
Would be interesting to see the weight differences between the 2400KC and the Noosa cat.

Short Fuse
15-10-2017, 06:28 PM
For comparison - here are the details from our last two trips off 1770.

Seatrek 5900 with 2014 model 115 Suzukis. BMT weight (empty) 2.2 ton - so around 3 ton or a bit over with 350 L fuel, 60 L water, 50 kg ice and way too much fishing and other gear on board.

Each trip with 2 people on board.

Trip 1 (Sykes) - 126NM travelled. 8.5 hours on the motors. 200 litres fuel used - confirmed by dipping tanks. Trip out and first day fishing was in fairly ordinary conditions, but calmed down somewhat for second day and return to port. Averaged out at 1.58 litres per NM.

Trip 2 (Sykes) - 135NM travelled. 8.6 hours on the motors. 190 litres fuel used - again confirmed by dipping tanks. Nice calm conditions for entire trip. Averaged out at 1.40 litres per NM.

cheers

Jeff

Dignity
15-10-2017, 07:50 PM
For comparison - here are the details from our last two trips off 1770.

Seatrek 5900 with 2014 model 115 Suzukis. BMT weight (empty) 2.2 ton - so around 3 ton or a bit over with 350 L fuel, 60 L water, 50 kg ice and way too much fishing and other gear on board.

Each trip with 2 people on board.

Trip 1 (Sykes) - 126NM travelled. 8.5 hours on the motors. 200 litres fuel used - confirmed by dipping tanks. Trip out and first day fishing was in fairly ordinary conditions, but calmed down somewhat for second day and return to port. Averaged out at 1.58 litres per NM.

Trip 2 (Sykes) - 135NM travelled. 8.6 hours on the motors. 190 litres fuel used - again confirmed by dipping tanks. Nice calm conditions for entire trip. Averaged out at 1.40 litres per NM.

cheers

Jeff

I think I need to follow you out next trip Jeff, that's very good economy,around 1.3 km per litre for twin engines I'm sure Al would like to have those figures although normally he uses Yammies.

Cheers Sam

Short Fuse
16-10-2017, 08:21 AM
Most welcome to bring your boat along next trip Sam. One of my Deckies took his 6 metre Whittley Fisherman with 175 Zuke along last trip and fished around Boult and Fitzroy. He used 145 litres for just over 24 hours on the water with 3 on board.

Al's last boat went to Toby at Hervey Bay. Speaking to him recently, he is getting slightly better economy out of his 115 Yammies than I am out of the Zukes. He has already placed his order for a second Seatrek from Al. This one will be for his son.

cheers

Jeff

Flex
29-11-2017, 06:14 AM
For Anyone who may be interested.

Towed our 2300 noosacat from Brisbane to mackay (1200km) last week with a 2012 BT-50.
Totally blown away by how well it towed the boat.
Easy cruise was 95km/h.could have cruised at 100 but roads are horrible up this way.
Towed at 100 comfortably along the super flat highway north of Brisbane.

Not 100% sure how much boat weighs just yet.

Airbags under the car are a must.

Returned fuel economy of 19-20l per 100km. Which I think is pretty good considering my previous 3l Navara towed my 18f SC at 85km for 26l/h.

I was afraid I'd need a 200 series to tow new boat(still preferable from power perspective). But ranger/bt-50 are quite sufficient tow cars for their size.


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No Excuses
10-10-2018, 03:24 AM
Hi FLEX, i'll be putting some 140 zukes on my 660 in the coming weeks. Not the same engine i know but happy to share fuel figures and performance if you like?