Who says cats are quicker than monos in chop.

[scottar]

Anything can be achieved if you push hard enough...........and possibly know a good chiro.

https://www.facebook.com/217mph/videos/1359277524136757/

[Moejoes]

Moejoes racing Giddy Up back to the ramp ;D

[FisHard]

That's cool!

[scottar]

Moejoes racing Giddy Up back to the ramp ;D

I just choked on my beer Rob.

[scottar]

That's cool!

For sure. Just can't quite put my finger on where to mount the rod holders though;D

[gofishin]

That must have been Nth Qld chop.... [emoji41]


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[Cape Crusader]

I doesn't count if only the legs are in the water :P
But WOW
Cheers
Rod

[bluefin59]

Chiropractor would do good business after that lot I suspect ... Matt

[scottar]

That must have been Nth Qld chop.... [emoji41]


I had heard Cairns had the highest rate of Chiropractor migration in the country - all starting to make sense now. ::)

[Vromme]

I cant believe the Nth Qld chop thing is still going round. Classic. :)

[gofishin]

I cant believe the Nth Qld chop thing is still going round. Classic. :)

Only for the old salts on here. Everyone else is probably thinking ... "WTF are they on about..." [emoji41]


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[ozscott]

I thought Moreton Bay chop was the steepest in the universe but Nth Qld is a close second. Cheers

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[Noelm]

Sorry, but, Nth QLD chop is as bad as can be, it's been known to flip cats, pound monos into dust, and maybe even swallow ships.....well, according to a few who used to post here!

[inveratta]

wonder what lure they were using?

[juggernaut]

Don't know about the lure.... but they would definatley be using Monofilament line ;D

[Mr__Bean]

Some of the fastest mono non-race boats that I can remember are those that were built by the Victorian serial abalone poacher Cam Strachan. He not only out run the police boats but he also reportedly out run a helicopter on one of his chases as they pursued him into Westernport Bay.

Another of his chases was reported to be over 400Km and the police craft had no chance as they kept running out of fuel.

[SatNav]

1. Cough Cough Cough

[Mr__Bean]

1. Cough Cough Cough

What is that meant to mean?

if you have something to say then say it.

[Homer_Jay]

Some of the fastest mono non-race boats that I can remember are those that were built by the Victorian serial abalone poacher Cam Strachan. He not only out run the police boats but he also reportedly out run a helicopter on one of his chases as they pursued him into Westernport Bay.

Another of his chases was reported to be over 400Km and the police craft had no chance as they kept running out of fuel.


Outrun a helicopter? I would like to see that.
Doesnt a helicopter do a 100mph or something like that.

[Mr__Bean]

Because it was quite a few years ago now there isn't much internet history to his crimes and the chases, but at the time it was all over the local newspapers and he developed a status as he out ran the authorities.

here are a couple of links I could find.

https://www.facebook.com/lakesentrancefishingfleet/videos/1394206377264211/

Also read the OCR text at the bottom of this page, you have to roll the text to keep reading it all.

https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/123041815/

[Noelm]

One of my relatives had a "Camcraft" as they were called, pretty flash boat in their day, I don't know the full history of his Abalone poaching exploits, but there is certainly some truth to MrBeans statements, my nephews boat has twin 200's on it, which was pretty speedy for a fishing boat, I do believe that Rex Hunt had one at some time, and gossip has it that it sank!! don't know whether that is true or not, just what I heard from someone who might have known.

[Noelm]

But, to get back to reality, I guess outright speed is simply related to HP and how good/stupid/dare devil the driver is, and how much punishment the occupants can take.

[Mr__Bean]

I can't seen to get the link to the Lakes Entrance Fishing Fleet page that has the video on it to work properly, here is a snapshot of the post with the video.

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[scottar]

Outrun a helicopter? I would like to see that.
Doesnt a helicopter do a 100mph or something like that.

Sounds ridiculous but with the right boat it is exactly what happens. Take a look at the top level offshore power boat footage.

[Homer_Jay]

, I do believe that Rex Hunt had one at some time, and gossip has it that it sank!! don't know whether that is true or not, just what I heard from someone who might have known.

if I had to put up with Rex Hunt babbling all day, I would sink myself too! ;D

[Mr__Bean]

http://www.camcraftaustralia.com/photos/undefined/IMG_0012.JPG
One of my relatives had a "Camcraft" as they were called, pretty flash boat in their day, I don't know the full history of his Abalone poaching exploits, but there is certainly some truth to MrBeans statements, my nephews boat has twin 200's on it, which was pretty speedy for a fishing boat, I do believe that Rex Hunt had one at some time, and gossip has it that it sank!! don't know whether that is true or not, just what I heard from someone who might have known.

One like this?

600hp on a boat this size.

[Noelm]

It was a bit bigger than that, had a giant marlin board/swim platform on the back, and a full hard top.

[sea-rash]

What is that meant to mean?

if you have something to say then say it.

I am with Kerry. A boat that is outrunning a helicopter and being used for commercial purposes I call BS. I have only been in two boats in excess of 160 km/h and they were purpose built ski race boats that were 18 and 21 foot long with motors producing around 1000 hp. to generate that sort of speed. No expert on choppers but the different ones I have been in were cruising at close to 100 knots or around 180 km/h. Not sure of top speed in a pursuit. Saying that not exactly sure what they would do if the caught him in a helicopter.

R

[Vromme]

If there is any truth (big if) sounds more likely the chopper had to go in for fuel (possibly been out for a while) - therefore outrun by outlasting. Oh or there may have been a tunnel through a mountain pass. :)

[Mr__Bean]

I think that is correct, the big chase they called it.

It started in Tasmania and he ran across Bass Straight in a converted offshore race boat to the Victorian coast with about 700Kg of poached abalone on board, it didn't stop there as he ran them over the South Australia before pulling up. They caught up with him some 14 hours later from the old reports. Said to be a chase over 400Km involving a helicopter, fisheries and police launches and he lost them all during the chase.

He didn't have fast commercial fishing boats he has offshore race boats that he converted for poaching runs, mostly unlit at night.

He rolled the 40 foot Cigarette off Lakes Entrance and from memory he drove one into a small island at high speed in the dark.

When he got into Westernport Bay (no swell) on the big chase is where he was reported to have out run the helicopter.

I don't really care if people think it is BS or not, if you were into fishing and boating in Victoria back in the 90's and early 2000's you knew of Cam Strachan and his escapades.

When fisheries confiscated one of his offshore racers they kept it and converted it into an intercept boat.

If you google around with his full name (David Campbell Strachan) you still find old references to the chase.

I don't in anyway condone poaching, but I do kind of admire people doing this stuff well and leaving authorities behind.

[scottar]

Guess there are only a few who know whether journalistic license was involved or not but without specs on the boat or chopper - who knows. Typical chopper used by Polair - Spec'd top speed of about 170 knots. Miss Geico 2006 (admittedly possibly a bit more giddy up than old mate was playing with......and a cat) top speed - 213 MPH = 185 knots. That's some serious breeze in your face ......if you still had a face:o

[scottar]

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[stang69]

his boats commonly had at least 1000 litres of fuel. How long can a chopper fly for without turning back for fuel?

[TheRealPoMo]

Dunno but it's a cracking good story. Cross betwen hillbillies running moonshine in souped up hemi Dodges and Miami Vice. Not that I advocate poaching....

[Dirtyfuzz]

depending on the chopper i assume but i would expect no more than a couple of hrs, when we were doing evacs in 08 an 11 floods they were refuelling every 1hr

[TheRealAndy]

There is only about 4 maybe 5 boats ever built that will go faster than your average Robinson R44, which is good for about 130knots tops (and is a slow chopper). I think the fastest boat out there is (or was) an Aussie boat too which was from memory pushing about 300 knots. That record may have been beaten though.

WRT chopper endurance, it depends on the model and weight carried and speed. The Sikorsky that the US coastguard operates is good for about 4 hours at about 120knots. There is other choppers that can do better. Most are good for 2-3 hours (or 400-600nm).

As for cats being faster than mono's. This depends on size and waterline lenght as well as conditions. a 30ft niad RIB will outperform the standard 30 foot noosa cat or shark cat in a typical moreton bay chop.