Sea sick prevention

[gford001]

Long story short,
Recently started a new job thats going to see me working at sea for extended periods, like a month at a time.
I do get a bit seasick. Not crazy, but a bit.....
The other day i took a couple of kwells. Didnt get crook, but they seemed to dry me out and i had a headache that night.
Anyone been in the same boat (pun intended) and have a longterm solution to seasickness? Without side effects preferably?
Got an ex navy dude here who did 19 years and took a tablet every day he was at sea..... I'll ask what he took. But figured in the meantime I'd put it to the salty sea dogs on here to share their wisdom.
Cheers.

[scottar]

Problem is that there is no "one size fits all" cure. Plenty of things you can try but it is all trial and error. Personally I use Kwells. Plenty of blokes I know swear by the tablets ET flogs but they are very pricey and have to ordered in (didn't work for me). Pressure bands are another option as is a needle but it knocks you out for 24 hours or so. another tablet I have heard of working for some is Avil. It will depend on you too. I don't get crook on trailerboats and don't get crook on cruise ships but on a tug in anything over 20 knots after about 18 hours I am ready for a quick talk with Ralph. I don't even fight it anymore - just get it over and done with and then feel good again. Some come good after a few days but then there are some that never come good. Where you working and on what?

[DATCOL]

AVOMINE tablets from chemist Or ETS pills

[Bremic]

There was a big article in Club Marine magazine a few years ago, that was interesting reading. They listed a number of different ingredients used in the various seasick pills. The guts of the article was that all options won't work the same for all people, you need to try a few to find out which works best for you. ET's pills were one example of somebody mixing various drugs to get a mixture that worked for ET.

[gford001]

AVOMINE tablets from chemist Or ETS pills
This is what the navy bloke used. Might give them a try.

[gford001]

Problem is that there is no "one size fits all" cure. Plenty of things you can try but it is all trial and error. Personally I use Kwells. Plenty of blokes I know swear by the tablets ET flogs but they are very pricey and have to ordered in (didn't work for me). Pressure bands are another option as is a needle but it knocks you out for 24 hours or so. another tablet I have heard of working for some is Avil. It will depend on you too. I don't get crook on trailerboats and don't get crook on cruise ships but on a tug in anything over 20 knots after about 18 hours I am ready for a quick talk with Ralph. I don't even fight it anymore - just get it over and done with and then feel good again. Some come good after a few days but then there are some that never come good. Where you working and on what?
Border force patrol vessels. Most likely the 190 odd foot cape class out of Darwin. Likely the bigger ones down south at some point too......

[Stressless]

A compounding pharmacist mate put me onto half an Avil tablet for my wife: http://www.mydr.com.au/medicines/cmis/avil-tablets

Worked for her until she went to ET's

[TheRealAndy]

When I sailed on the HMB Endeavour Replica, the captain said to the voyage (paying) crew about 3 days in that those getting seasick would get over it, and would hand out chupa-chups to them. Sure as shit, they next day all sea sickness was gone. So the magic number is 3 days!! I suspect that you may find there is also some psychological stuff going on also. I think a lot of people suffer because they think they are going to get seasick. Of course a lot of people suffer because there is the actual equilibrium problem between the inner ear and the eye, but from my experience the brain learns to deal with this in time.

I can say this, after seeing so many people so sick that the looked like they would prefer to be dead, I am so glad I don't suffer from sea sickness and feel for those who do. I would suggest try a few things and find the remedy that works for you.

[GBC]

Border force patrol vessels. Most likely the 190 odd foot cape class out of Darwin. Likely the bigger ones down south at some point too......

They have roll flap motion control and are fast - you'll be fine underway, just not so much fun when they are hove too I'd guess.

Down south - southern ocean? Single fin, no keel, no ballast = Gawd help you haha. The Cape Grafton (now Southern Supporter) outside the reef or down south would cavitate over every swell and bounce you almost out of bed - she was a fair bit bigger than what you are heading out on.

Time is your friend at sea, but only on one vessel. Change vessels and stay at sea and you'll be crook for sure - spend 9 months at sea and you'll have to relearn how to walk on land again.

[Triple]

What's the active ingredients in ET's pills?

[Crunchy]

Avomine the night before and travel calm original half hour before departure...

[youngy]

I take ET pills every offshore trip and never been crook, active ingredients are Caffeine and Ginger, cheers wayne

[gford001]

When I sailed on the HMB Endeavour Replica, the captain said to the voyage (paying) crew about 3 days in that those getting seasick would get over it, and would hand out chupa-chups to them. Sure as shit, they next day all sea sickness was gone. So the magic number is 3 days!! I suspect that you may find there is also some psychological stuff going on also. I think a lot of people suffer because they think they are going to get seasick. Of course a lot of people suffer because there is the actual equilibrium problem between the inner ear and the eye, but from my experience the brain learns to deal with this in time.

I can say this, after seeing so many people so sick that the looked like they would prefer to be dead, I am so glad I don't suffer from sea sickness and feel for those who do. I would suggest try a few things and find the remedy that works for you.
Yeah i went on young endeavour for 18 days when i was 16 from melb to syd to newcastle. Big seas early on and spewed for 3 days......
Would rather not do that every patrol on the new gig though.

[Back In Black]

Beer. Fixes dodgy guts. Sounds rough, but my girlfriend at the time when travelling in Greece between Islands told me as we boarded a ferry in very rough seas. Really??

Went to front of boat where the bar was & got a tray of beers & as I walked to the stern where we were, everyone was throwing up everywhere, as it was was stupid rough, but I tell you what, they all excelled themselves at chucking when they saw me with a tray of beers.

Best lesson I ever learnt, & I' ve never been sea sick in my life. Juna isn't good first up, so after I cross the bar, she knocks back a Corona & is good for the day.

Tony

[gford001]

Beer. Fixes dodgy guts. Sounds rough, but my girlfriend at the time when travelling in Greece between Islands told me as we boarded a ferry in very rough seas. Really??

Went to front of boat where the bar was & got a tray of beers & as I walked to the stern where we were, everyone was throwing up everywhere, as it was was stupid rough, but I tell you what, they all excelled themselves at chucking when they saw me with a tray of beers.

Best lesson I ever learnt, & I' ve never been sea sick in my life. Juna isn't good first up, so after I cross the bar, she knocks back a Corona & is good for the day.

Tony
Hahaha nice.
Might be frowned upon though......

[Back In Black]

Hahaha nice.
Might be frowned upon though......

Who by?? The guy with the dodgy guts;D;D;D

[Moonlighter]

If you are in Brisbane area, Carina Day & Night chemist is a compounding chemist and makes their own version.

My cousin, who suffers vertigo and motion sickness real bad, uses their version when she travels, has no nasty side effects and does the job very well.

[gford001]

If you are in Brisbane area, Carina Day & Night chemist is a compounding chemist and makes their own version.

My cousin, who suffers vertigo and motion sickness real bad, uses their version when she travels, has no nasty side effects and does the job very well.
Awesome. Will definitely do that. Not a big fan of Kwells. Will have a crack. Like my navy mate said, pretty sure its 95% mental. If he had a pill he'd be fine.
I imagine I'd be fine, but just in case.....
Cheers mate

[Back In Black]

Awesome. Will definitely do that. Not a big fan of Kwells. Will have a crack. Like my navy mate said, pretty sure its 95% mental. If he had a pill he'd be fine.
I imagine I'd be fine, but just in case.....
Cheers mate

Your mates right, 95% mental.
I like to raise the bar & swear I'm 100% with a few beers in me:drunk::drunk::drunk:

[gford001]

Your mates right, 95% mental.
I like to raise the bar & swear I'm 100% with a few beers in me:drunk::drunk::drunk:
Haha i like the beer idea. Shame the boss won't. I do like this new gig so far. Don't wanna push it.

[shaungonemad]

I guy I work with gets sea sick really bad but loves his fishing he has tried all the pills without much luck he said Avomine was the best for him but still got sick a fair bit. He has also told me that he has tried a blob of vick's vaporub in his belly button with a band aid over it apparently it works, which makes it sound like a mind over matter thing. Thankfully I don't get sick I have also heard about putting an ear plug in only one ear something to do with your middle ear.

[Billy C]

Travacalm has always worked for me and doesn't dry you out like kwells. Take one each morning with a good glass of water

[Fish_Two]

I get sea sick the night before just thinking about it, it's all a mind game,

[scottar]

Cool. Interesting job at times no doubt.

[gford001]

Cool. Interesting job at times no doubt.
Just started but yeah. Stoked I got in.
Pays really well and only work 6 months of the year. Not to mention it's a govt job and all that means.....

[PROS]

I don't get sea sick but if I smell smoke on water it gives me the biggest headache, hence I wont let anyone smoke in my boat or be in another boat with smokers.
Smell of Olympic torch gives me the same headache as well

[Flex]

All the tablets/ointments etc don't really do a great deal IMO. they are only short term

The only way to cure yourself is time at sea.! but you can help make it easier

I used to get seasick in a bathtub. I spent every day for 3 weeks fishing years ago and I can honestly say I'm 99% cured.(10-12hours every day on a boat)
What ever you do, dont give up when your sick. Don't lie down and go to sleep. You need to train your brain and inner ear to cope with the imbalance its experiencing. This takes a few days. So keep moving/working or fishing and power on.
Id rather be crook pulling a red emperor in than asleep in the cab.

Also, to alleviate the sickness a good trick is stay down the back of the boat where its less rough. get your head into some wind. Most importantly stare at the horizon/island as hard as you can. This will tell your brain your moving.

The reason you get crook is, your inner is telling your brain your moving, but your eyes are saying your not. so train your brain and it will ease off.

[Bremic]

Beer. Fixes dodgy guts. Sounds rough, but my girlfriend at the time when travelling in Greece between Islands told me as we boarded a ferry in very rough seas. Really??

Went to front of boat where the bar was & got a tray of beers & as I walked to the stern where we were, everyone was throwing up everywhere, as it was was stupid rough, but I tell you what, they all excelled themselves at chucking when they saw me with a tray of beers.

Best lesson I ever learnt, & I' ve never been sea sick in my life. Juna isn't good first up, so after I cross the bar, she knocks back a Corona & is good for the day.

Tony

Yeah, this is my solution also. Many years ago I used to fish with an old bloke and when I got a bit seedy, his advice was "grab a can of piss". Has been pretty reliable for me.

[Moonlighter]

It is easy to scoff at others and tell them it's all in their head.

Let's see the medical qualifications of those making that claim, hey?!

Everyone is different. Some people suffer badly, despite trying everything. Medication is proven to help many of them. Others, nothing seems to work.

But everyone is different. Some people who suffer vertigo or motion sickness need medication. Others don't.

I rarely get sick, and if I do it is usually because I haven't been offshore for a long time, or on one or two occasions I have had a head cold and blocked up sinuses. Inner ear certainly has a relationship.

Do what suits you.

[tropicrows]

I get sea sick quite offen and i can't pin it down to anyone thing. Ive been out in rough water with swell and been fine other days its only slightly rough and im hanging over the side. Ive tried lots and lots of remedies with some success. Being on the water often is the best thing imo, however thats not always possible so i get on with it and hope for t h e best each trip.

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[TheRealAndy]

Let's see the medical qualifications of those making that claim, hey?!


Pot calling the kettle black? What is your medical qualification? And yet you wish to share your opinion also?

[bigmac87]

My mate uses Travalcalm as well and says the only side effect is it makes him hungry.

[Dignity]

I don't normally get seasick but then went through a period where every trip I started to feel nauseous. My doc recommended Avil which is prescribed for women with morning sickness, eased the sickness but not entirely so he ordered an endoscopy and found I had heliobacter virus, once that was sorted never got sick agsin. There is a problem with Avil and blokes, if you have any prostrate issues it can exacerbate them so beware.
The British navy uses a drug called Sturgeron which works for some.

Would like to try the beer thing but haven't taken any on the boat for 30 years now.

[fishtragic]

gford,
I think you'll find this info in another thread somewhere on here but here it is again anyway. I've logged many tens of thousands of sea hours on a great variety of vessel types and sizes and I can tell categorically that if you get seasick as easily as I do you will always get seasick. Having said that it can be managed and as has already been said the susceptibility is different for everyone and consequently the management is different for everyone. I attended a talk at the Syd boat show many years ago by the great Dick Lewers and heard, and then read in an article in a fishing mag he wrote for, about his seasickness remedy. I have used it for many years with total success including 70 knots of wind and 12m seas for several days. Works for me and all of my crews (at least the ones that stick to it). Here goes. Stay away from milk and citrus, they are the enemy. Travacalm original are the only tabs that work for me. Take one tab the night before you let go, another one next morning and at intervals during the day as required, depends on sea conditions. Keep your stomach full, dryish foods like sandwiches etc. This is a bit generalised and is aimed at day trips so it varies with individuals and obviously you'll have to tailor it to your needs. Travacalm do affect people in different ways. They will make you dry, bung you up and half a tab puts my wife to sleep but 2 or 3 in a day doesn't make me drowsy at all, then again I'm probably more excited about fishing than most. I'm not suggesting that you do as I do but only that this works for me. I'll take side effects over spewing any day. I went green first day out on a 17 day cruise years ago, had a maxolon injection and half a dozen pills to take over several days from the ships doc and no sign of mal de mer for the rest of the trip. Similar active ingredients.
Had one of your v/ls, (Storm Bay), check me out in stealth mode at 0100 about 200nm east of Sydney once, They wouldn't identify themselves, no lights until they were within half a mile of me. Looked like an aeroplane coming at me on collision course on radar. Interesting night.
Good luck.
Mark

[gford001]

gford,
I think you'll find this info in another thread somewhere on here but here it is again anyway. I've logged many tens of thousands of sea hours on a great variety of vessel types and sizes and I can tell categorically that if you get seasick as easily as I do you will always get seasick. Having said that it can be managed and as has already been said the susceptibility is different for everyone and consequently the management is different for everyone. I attended a talk at the Syd boat show many years ago by the great Dick Lewers and heard, and then read in an article in a fishing mag he wrote for, about his seasickness remedy. I have used it for many years with total success including 70 knots of wind and 12m seas for several days. Works for me and all of my crews (at least the ones that stick to it). Here goes. Stay away from milk and citrus, they are the enemy. Travacalm original are the only tabs that work for me. Take one tab the night before you let go, another one next morning and at intervals during the day as required, depends on sea conditions. Keep your stomach full, dryish foods like sandwiches etc. This is a bit generalised and is aimed at day trips so it varies with individuals and obviously you'll have to tailor it to your needs. Travacalm do affect people in different ways. They will make you dry, bung you up and half a tab puts my wife to sleep but 2 or 3 in a day doesn't make me drowsy at all, then again I'm probably more excited about fishing than most. I'm not suggesting that you do as I do but only that this works for me. I'll take side effects over spewing any day. I went green first day out on a 17 day cruise years ago, had a maxolon injection and half a dozen pills to take over several days from the ships doc and no sign of mal de mer for the rest of the trip. Similar active ingredients.
Had one of your v/ls, (Storm Bay), check me out in stealth mode at 0100 about 200nm east of Sydney once, They wouldn't identify themselves, no lights until they were within half a mile of me. Looked like an aeroplane coming at me on collision course on radar. Interesting night.
Good luck.
Mark
Haha cheers mate.
Hopefully I'll be fine. Apparently they handle pretty well. I might grab a few different types and see what works.

[ben_460]

No beers the night before works for me , not even 1 if it's going to be lumpy









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[Dante647]

Try taking ginger tablets before you go out


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