Boat model???

[Kylie1]

Hello There Guys and Gals!
I have just purchased a boat which at the time I believed to be a Kevlacat. But alas!! when I get the paperwork it says its an Aristocat 2800. I've never heard of this before, so Im asking all of you......What do you think this boat is? Was there a power boat called an Aristocat? As far as I was aware "Aristocat" was the name of the boat, not the make. I am by no means a boat expert by the way!! Can anyone help me with this?
Cheers, Kylie

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[Smithy]

Has it got 2 stroke Yammies on it? I think it was originally called Stalker like the sunglasses. Owned by a mate of mine Jase. Always thought it was a Noosacat hull. I can ask him for you.

[Nick H]

Doesn't look like it has a wave breaker in between the hulls from the photos, which put my bet on it not being a kevlar cat. I'm with Smithy, What year is the hull?

[Still_Dreamin]

Gees you don't muck around Kylie! That is a cracker first boat! Can't help with id of boat but sounds like smithy has it sorted.

[Kylie1]

Hi Smithy!!! Yes That's my boat!! This is awesome!! if you could ask your mate more about it, I would appreciate it. Every girl certainly wants to know exactly what she just bought! What has "Aristocat" got to do with it. Is this an actual model with a different hull. The paperwork says it was built on the Gold Coast. But no year. So I don't really Know much about my boat......at all. But I think that picture of the boat called stalker is not the same boat. All the other pics are my boat its got the same reg number....Cheers for the info Smithy, hope to chat soon ::)

[Kylie1]

Hi Nick. I emailed some pics to Kevlacat which confirmed that its not one of their boats. They couldn't help me with the model either. Thanks for the reply!! Kylie.

[Smithy]

Your right. Windows look different but lots of similarities and that rego would be something Jase would have done. His was based on a 24' original Bruce Harris cat.

[The Woo]

This is certainly interesting, AND a good looking boat.

While at a glance it looks like a Kevlacat thanks to the window shape, the hull looks more like an early Sharkcat (built on the Gold Coast) - Prior to 1985/1986 as it doesn't have the update of that period of the widening step at the crease line on the hull sides approx 12" from the waterline.

BUT the foredeck shape is of the post 1986 Sharkcats. Weird.

And the boat looks a bit longer than 23' when comparing the size of those Yamis....?

Intriguing.

[gofishin]

I'm with Woo, it's like a bit of a weird mix of Sharkcats from different eras. The shoulder overhang at the very corners of the bow (very squareish deck) also don't look quite right, or more so look like earlier model SC's, maybe even a bit more pronounced that what I recall.

The apparent different shapes in side windows is just blacked out fibreglass. If you look very closely at Smithy's pic of Stalker (2nd last pic), you can just see the glazing frame outline and the blacked out f/glass. Note the rear bulked out fibreglass section sweeping up to the back of the hardtop, same lines in both sets of photos.

The hull/below the gunnel line looks a little like an early model Devil Cat. The smaller models had clinker sides, but the bigger ones didn't. Plus they had square bows and pronounced overhang like this one. However, haven't seen or heard of on of these for years, and the deck/cabin looks like a SC!

Yes, interesting. Someone call "CSI Boats" to help out. :)
Cheers
Brendon


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[Smithy]

Do you think it is the same boat Brendon?

[gofishin]

99% sure it is Smithy, unless identical boats were made - which in this case would be pretty rare.

Obviously it has had a face lift, some different trimming, and some two-tone addition, but is close enough for me.

With better resolution pics to compare, and less white-out of the deck lines in the Stalker pic I might rule out the last 1% too. :).
Cheers


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[The Woo]

Some high resolution pics will help. The boat is vaguely familiar and I'm somewhat ashamed I don't know more about it.

[Kylie1]

Hi Woo! Yes I was also comparing to the sharkcat which looks the closest so far but also is very similar to the cougarcat also. The boat is 28ft. This certainly is becoming a mystery!

[Kylie1]

Hi Brendon, Yes after studying the picture of the stalker, I was informed that there were covers on the windows and it was the same boat. Smithy is onto this one!! The sooner I find out what the actual make is, I can rename it!

[aussiebasser]

Kylie, please follow the correct procedure for renaming your awesome boat. You don't want to upset the boat Gods. Follow these directions to avoid a P'd off Poseidon.

http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/rename.htm

[scottar]

One guy who may know if it was built on the Goldy is Nelson Raebel - catamaran designer and builder. I don't think it is one of his but he may know who built them. I think he is on Facebook.

[gofishin]

... but also is very similar to the cougarcat ...Actually, that option is very easy to rule out, as it is definitely not a Cougar Cat - well unless they drastically changed their hull designs and this was an early prototype.

The Cougars have very large and easily distinguished "scallops" (for want of a better word) at the bow/stem, clearly visible and well above the waterline, which makes their entries very fine and these hulls easily identified.
Cheers
Brendon


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[scottar]

Actually, that option is very easy to rule out, as it is definitely not a Cougar Cat - well unless they drastically changed their hull designs and this was an early prototype.

The Cougars have very large and easily distinguished "scallops" (for want of a better word) at the bow/stem, clearly visible and well above the waterline, which makes their entries very fine and these hulls easily identified.
Cheers
Brendon


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What Brendon said - definitely not a "production" Cougar.

[Kylie1]

Actually, that option is very easy to rule out, as it is definitely not a Cougar Cat - well unless they drastically changed their hull designs and this was an early prototype.

The Cougars have very large and easily distinguished "scallops" (for want of a better word) at the bow/stem, clearly visible and well above the waterline, which makes their entries very fine and these hulls easily identified.
Cheers
Brendon


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Oh thanks! That rules out another model!


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[Kylie1]

Kylie, please follow the correct procedure for renaming your awesome boat. You don't want to upset the boat Gods. Follow these directions to avoid a P'd off Poseidon.

http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/rename.htm

Yes certainly will! I've been reading up on the process. Sounds interesting!


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[Smithy]

From Jase.






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Thanks.





Was it renamed Aristocat?





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[The Woo]

Yep, Sharkcat., the game is up :)
By squinting and blocking out the bits that have been added, the shape of a factory 7 metre Sharkat Express model becomes clearer. The pod/platform is clearly not factory (single diesel boat converted maybe?) and the thick stripes trick the eye too. Lots of custom stuff on it, even the dash shape is quite different.

[Smithy]

Yeh Stooge would have went to town. This was his next boat. He won champion boat from it one GCGFC season. Len from on here knows it very well. Teak coamings in a 4.1m boat!

[Kylie1]

Well I'm here at the marina going over the boat. Paid a visit to the Marina Registry. The girl behind the desk says she sold that boat to the guy that I bought it off. She says the make of the boat is an "ARISTOCAT 2800". Made by Aristocat. Hmmmmm!


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[Kylie1]

Has it got 2 stroke Yammies on it? I think it was originally called Stalker like the sunglasses. Owned by a mate of mine Jase. Always thought it was a Noosacat hull. I can ask him for you.

Hi Smithy.
Could you ease ask your friend Jase if he happens to have a copy of an old survey for this boat? Thank you. Kylie.


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[koastal]

What ever it is - It looks terrific

[Smithy]

I doubt it would have one. In the old days only charter boats needed surveys done or potential purchasees. It has only been the last five years or so insurance companies want them for boats over 10 years old. He is at Cape York so I won't bother him anymore. If he said it is a Bruce Harris built cat, that is what it is.

[gofishin]

Well I'm here at the marina going over the boat. Paid a visit to the Marina Registry. The girl behind the desk says she sold that boat to the guy that I bought it off. She says the make of the boat is an "ARISTOCAT 2800". Made by Aristocat. Hmmmmm! ...I wouldn't be too concerned with what a salesperson said, or what one of the interim owners said it was. Marketing ploy maybe, based on some backward thinking?

Dunno, but I would personally much prefer to buy a BH2300 rather than a totally unknown 2800. Measure it (hull length only), and see what you get.

I suppose it could also be a flop copy, who knows.

Even official paperwork can be wrong! For instance, my old man bought a new diesel cruiser in 1990. Registered by the dealer etc. paid for it and drove off. rego cert/paperwork said 4cyl diesel, and said this for 10 yrs. until he sold it. how many 4cyl diesel LC's have you seen?
Cheers


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[Kylie1]

I wouldn't be too concerned with what a salesperson said, or what one of the interim owners said it was. Marketing ploy maybe, based on some backward thinking?

Dunno, but I would personally much prefer to buy a BH2300 rather than a totally unknown 2800. Measure it (hull length only), and see what you get.

I suppose it could also be a flop copy, who knows.

Even official paperwork can be wrong! For instance, my old man bought a new diesel cruiser in 1990. Registered by the dealer etc. paid for it and drove off. rego cert/paperwork said 4cyl diesel, and said this for 10 yrs. until he sold it. how many 4cyl diesel LC's have you seen?
Cheers


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Ok yes. I know what you mean. Yes we measured the boat. It's 28 feet and just a tad over 30 with the pod. I have learnt so much about Cat hulls since this post and I thank you all for your info. Very helpful to me. And to me its identical to an older model shark cat. So that's what I will be calling it anyway!! I will post another picture of this boat when I'm finished refurbishing it. I started on the bedroom on the weekend. It needs so much work but I'm looking forward to doing most of the cosmetic work myself. Once again thanks fellas for your knowledge.
Cheers Kylie.


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[gofishin]

Hmmm, 28ft... Even more mysterious! Not sure if they made them that big back then. Maybe better call it a 'myste-cat' :)

Can you get/look in to any u/floor compartments for any sign of a hull extension?


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[docaster]

http://www.cairnsunlimited.com/portdouglas.htm

This looked like a boat called aristocat, a dive boat?

[Kylie1]

http://www.cairnsunlimited.com/portdouglas.htm

This looked like a boat called aristocat, a dive boat?

This boat is called "Aristocat"http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/18/7ce9cb1099cebcff44158e922f85760b.jpg


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[Greg P]

Hi Kylie

i hope all is well with your boat as I saw a feed on VMR Whitsunday FB this morning that looked like this boat in trouble on the mooring line?

wishing it is not yours.

[McKnight]

Unless the "Aristocat" was in the process of being re-named (shudders) I don't think it was Kylie's boat. just going of the placement of "Aristocat" under the starboard cabin window.

Well that may have been wrong it does look like "Aristocat" I hope everyone is safe and sound Kylie.

http://i.imgur.com/Xz1zYAz.png

[gofishin]

Oh no!!!! That is The same boat! That is gut-wrenching, very sad to see. :( :( Hope all crew and skipper escaped unharmed and/or your insurer does the right thing by you Kylie if it happened on the mooring.
Cheers
Brendon

[The Woo]

Shoot, that is NOT good!