Anglers are getting locked out

[Lucky_Phill]

the Election Game is on and YOUR Fishing Rights are at stake!



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ANTI-AUSSIE ANGLER PLANS EXPOSED

"LOCKOUT" Flood Gates Are Open!

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Keep Australia Fishing has been keeping Australia’s recreational fishers informed about the ‘Biggest Aussie Angler Lock Out’ that the Labor Government, supported by the Greens and anti-fishing lobby groups are wanting to be implemented through the Commonwealth Marine Park process. The proposed Marine Park LockOuts will see Aussie Anglers locked out of over 1.3 million square kilometres of our seas – and so far the Labor Government has not told us any reason why they need to do this!
You have been asking us whether there are further plans to LOCK Aussie anglers OUT of our seas? Have the ‘LOCKOUT’ Flood Gates Been Opened?
The ANSWER IS YES!
The attached indicative map was assembled from the Government’s proposed Marine Park plans as well as Marine Reserve proposals from environmental groups. The map shows proposed areas of marine reserves where recreational fishing would potentially be banned. The Labor Government has now set the precedent that Aussie Anglers will be banned from all future Marine National Parks – and again – they have not told us why we need to be banned. Diving, large scale tourism, cargo and bulk carriers and defense activities will still be allowed in these areas. Does a recreational fisher really pose a greater risk to the marine environment than these activities? We don’t think so.
If implemented these anti–fishing proposals would see major impacts on YOUR RIGHTS to go fishing – in fact it's hard to see a state or a region where your fishing rights would not be severely eroded.
And there is no need for this. There is no reason why recreational fishers need to be banned from vast areas of marine parks to have a world leading marine reserve system. There is no science to support these LOCKOUTS.
We are calling on all Candidates and Political Parties to support our call for an independent comprehensive scientific review of the Marine park process. Let's see what’s really behind the ‘Lock Outs’ and build a Marine reserve system based on science - not politics.
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[theoldlegend]

Looks like another under the table deal with the Greens in exchange for preferences.

These Greens really have to go!!


TOL

[mikeyh]

How you can consider diving as having the same risk profile as bulk carriers, defense, cargo is beyond me. Diving is also quite different to recfishing because it isnt extractive-you dont take anything except maybe pictures.

[Schulzy]

95459

Maybe we need a revolution? something has to change soon knee jerk reactions and piss poor funding waste of study/ research money is running this country into the ground as well as all the other money wasting skeams. Stopping the live export is another huge waste of money/ wasted stock it's not looking good! Rant over

[seatime]

I'm of the opinion that recreational fishers are benefiting from the reserves that are in place now and so can see benefits extending them.

the "cargo and bulk carriers" statement also displays a distinct ignorance because 'bulk' is 'cargo'.

will probably get banned or deleted now :)

[Mark Robinson MP]

The Rudd-Milne Labor-Green Alliance will lock away millions of sq kms of good fishing waters because they are under the undue influence of certain extreme international Green groups. And now the Katter Party are reportedly doing preference deals with Labor. So the Labor-Katter-Green alliance will mean less areas where you can fish. Which fishing spot will you lose next. The Greens wanted more than the million sq kms of the Coral Sea. They wanted new lock out areas near Fraser island and the Temperate East (federal waters outside Moreton Bay and north and south into nsw). Who is going to stop them locking rec fishers out of these waters. I have no intention of just watching this happen. The rec fishers in my electorate, Cleveland, were angry that 16% of the best fishing areas of Moreton Bay were closed to rec fishing, due to a Green preference deal. I am still opposed to that political, non-evidence based deal and continue to call for a review of the reasons why rec fishers, who generally fish sustainably, have been locked out of so much good fishing ground. In this federal election, only the LNP is unequivocally opposing new lock out zones.

[cobiaman]

Your pushing shit uphill trying to get anyone to believe a word you say after last election mark

[Mike Delisser]

The rec fishers in my electorate, Cleveland, were angry that 16% of the best fishing areas of Moreton Bay were closed to rec fishing, due to a Green preference deal. I am still opposed to that political, non-evidence based deal and continue to call for a review of the reasons why rec fishers, who generally fish sustainably, have been locked out of so much good fishing ground. .

But Mark, according to the LNP's Steve Dickson, the State Minister for National Parks, Sport and Recreation.

"Science played a key role in determining the marine park zoning."

"Recreational fishing interests were consulted on the current MBMP zoning arrangements and recreational fishing data was considered in the planning process. This ensured that the most popular recreational fishing areas of the Bay were excluded from green zones."

The Minister's full statementhttp://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/Doc.../5412T1858.pdf

[Mark Robinson MP]

Some suggest that existing parks could be left in place, but rec fishing in some form allowed. What do you think?

[Mark Robinson MP]

Your pushing shit uphill trying to get anyone to believe a word you say after last election mark We are only half way through this parliament. Still some time cobiaman. its not over yet.

[cobiaman]

We are only half way through this parliament. Still some time cobiaman. its not over yet.

I hope so mark

[TREVELLY]

It is politics to play all the hard shots at the beginning of their term and then offer all the sweeteners as we approach the next election believing/knowing that many have short memories and in turn vote accordingly.

Rudd is a movie star - never mind his recent history many have forgotten.

Also many will see the pain of hard decisions and not realise the gain or even if there was any.

I wonder what it takes to have a federal govt with vision and plans for prosperity that generates wealth and income rather than just taxing everything till it dies and then looking for something new to kill off.

Similar with total lock outs without any access or consideration to cycling with opening and shutting at times to allow sensible access is just plain sell out to the fruit-loop bin for preferences.

The yanks are a country of very dedicated hunters and shooters and many will see them as red-necks in that department BUT be sure their green fruit-loop bin knows they would be decimated if they tried their policies locally so they bring their ideas and money to fund and influence our policy makers and with great success.

We would have to be seen as the biggest nation of suckers on the globe and when you look at those that represent us internationally - it is no surprise.

[nigelr]

I found this interesting; I'm not an Abbott fan but will not vote for a Labor/Green coalition, regardless of whether the relationship is overt or covert. I think there was a bit of a push from within the ALP to sever the Labor-Green loveknot.....I for one will be wanting to see very solid proof of this.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-14/liberal-party-to-preference-labor-over-greens/4885182

[Steeler]

Twas not the ALP who delivered Adam Bandt his seat of Melbourne.

[Camhawk88]

And now the Katter Party are reportedly doing preference deals with Labor. So the Labor-Katter-Green alliance will mean less areas where you can fish. Which fishing spot will you lose next.

Mark you are showing some ignorance here. KAtter is the anti green and has been on record more than once on his opposition to angler lock outs among other outdoor activities being restricted by the greens. You are simply lumping him in with the rest as youre parties strategy is to limit the amount of protest votes going to other parties. You take us for fools.

[lampuki]

Katter has lumped himself in with Labor/Greens by his recent dealings.

If Katter was truly anti green, he would not do a preference deal with Labor.

In this election, only the coalition has publicly stated that they will preference the Greens last. When Kevin Rudd was asked the same question....The response in short, was that it was a matter for someone else.

What do you think Labor has sold to get Greens preferences? The map on post#1 would be a good guess.

[manta man]

First of all Mr Robinson, you only seem to appear on this site when it most suits you. I get the impression it"s all about "Your Electorate and the Surrounding Areas". You only tell the Public what they want to hear ( I Think all People in General are Sick and Tired of the BULL.... of ALL POLITICIANS.I for one do believe in these lockouts of certain area"s but only during peak spawning periods (Which you would hope was part of the Strategy in the first place. So to me it"s easier just too shut specific area"s as No Go Zones (Problem Solved). As you would well know, the Fisheries Dept is well and truly under staffed (Yeh where trying to save money) BUT ARE YOU REALLY. Eg Recent Reef Balls ask any Good Dive Operator or Fisherman and they will you tell straight up it does"nt work (Already silting up).. Personally i"m over all Politicians they all Speak with Faulk Tongue. I want to see action on all Fronts(Yes they are Louder than Words) Cheers Manta Man

[Steeler]

Don't want to get off the topic to much however in defence of our resident MP Mark he was shafted by " Can Do " good and proper from having responsibilty for all things fisho.

Can hardly blame the guy for now wanting to focus on just his own little patch of turf.

[Camhawk88]

Lampuki,
Katter is aligning himself with the party that will get him the best chance of getting a few seats. For all his faults he is very good at representing his constituents and he knows his constituents are dead against most greens policies in particular fishing /4wd lock outs. He is on record many times opposing this.

You are trying to lump him with the greens through Labor- simply not the case. Sure they share a common major party alliance however they will be pulling in opposite directions if (big if) KAP and Greens get seats after this election and Labor win. Very unlikely outcome I'm sure we can all agree.

Mark's (read LNP) strategy is transparent- the Coalition stand the greatest chance of victory by getting the votes from pissed of Labor supporters. If a lot of those votes go to minor parties then they know they run the risk of either loosing or having a hung parliment- and according to Abbott this will result in another election and Id say his position as leader.

[lampuki]

Hi CamHawk.

I agree that Katter is good at representing his constituents and that he has publicly voiced concerns in the past for those wanting personal freedom.

But, I am not trying to lump Katter in with Labor/Greens, Katter is doing that himself by dealing with a party who is activley wooing the greens, regardless of his previous comments/actions. You cant have it both ways. By directing preferences to Labor, he is assisting the greens and the deals they have done with Labor to secure their preferences. Its not a long bow to draw.

Labor MPs arent thriled either. If Kevin Rudd had come out, and matched Tony Abbots lead on this, i would have no issue with Katter's position.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/national/labor-seeing-red-as-kevin-rudd-woos-greens/story-fnii5s41-1226697415884

[Camhawk88]

Katter finds himself in the same situation the rest of us are in- having to pick one of 2 useless options.
I think KAP has to align with one of the major parties and Labor is probably more in line with KAP policies than LNP. It is just a shame that ALP wont give the greens the boot like LNP have. That was a good move from Abbott but I still cant bring myself to vote for the prick.

[cobiaman]

Katter finds himself in the same situation the rest of us are in- having to pick one of 2 useless options.
I think KAP has to align with one of the major parties and Labor is probably more in line with KAP policies than LNP. It is just a shame that ALP wont give the greens the boot like LNP have. That was a good move from Abbott but I still cant bring myself to vote for the prick.

You vote for a party, not a person mate....

[Camhawk88]

Let me rephrase:
I still cant bring myself to vote for a Party with that prick as leader.

[Steeler]

You vote for a party, not a person mate....

The QLD LNP did not think so hence the recruiting of Can Do to get them over the line.

[wags on the water]

Is there anyone else I can vote for?

[cobiaman]

Clearly if you vote labour, you dont know who your voting for

[fish'n'chippy]

Does anyone know what the Australian Sex Party's position is on being able to have your rod in your hand, wherever or whenever you want???

[Mike Delisser]

Hi CamHawk.

I agree that Katter is good at representing his constituents and that he has publicly voiced concerns in the past for those wanting personal freedom.

But, I am not trying to lump Katter in with Labor/Greens, Katter is doing that himself by dealing with a party who is activley wooing the greens, regardless of his previous comments/actions. You cant have it both ways. By directing preferences to Labor, he is assisting the greens and the deals they have done with Labor to secure their preferences. Its not a long bow to draw.


http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/national/labor-seeing-red-as-kevin-rudd-woos-greens/story-fnii5s41-1226697415884

So lampuki would you also say that in NSW the Shooters and Fishers party are lumping themselves in with the ultra religious Fred Nile group? By directing preferences to the Coalition in NSW, are the Shooters and Fishers Party assisting the Fred Nile Group with deals they have done?

Mate I don't think you understand the way preference deals (exchanges) are done.

[lampuki]

Mike, i do understand how preferncing works and the corruption and cheating that occurs as a result. Are you suggesting that no deals are done for preferences? Or are questioning the transitive assertion I make?

[hainsofast]

Guys, all you have to do is put your own preferences in, you do know that don't you? So no matter what party you support you can preference however you wish. The major political parties preferences only work if you just put a 1 next to your preffered candidate. I for one always take the time to do my own preferences, hence having a 100% choice where all my vote goes to. Hope this helps.

[Mike Delisser]

Mike, i do understand how preferncing works and the corruption and cheating that occurs as a result. Are you suggesting that no deals are done for preferences? Or are questioning the transitive assertion I make?

Of course deals are done for preferences, they can become quite complicated too, particularly cross house exchanges involving Senate preferences but I wouldn't call that corruption or cheating, perhaps dishonest if it's denied and hidden from the public. The campaign teams will do what ever deals they can to get their candidates across the line, every party and just about every Ind does preference exchanges and they are legal. Perhaps you should give a few examples of what you understand to be corruption and cheating in preference swaps.

But.......what I did ask you was in relation to your assertion that Katter was lumping himself in with the Greens, and would you also say that the Shooters and Fishers were in turn lumping themselves in with the Fred Nile Group.

Cheers

[lampuki]

Hi Mike.

I understand what you are saying, and there is merit in the example you provided questioning the over simplified assertion that I stated, however they are different situations. Labor formed government with the greens, and have had a long standing relationship, despite the more recent public spats. There is no such link between the coalition and the FNG, nor does the FNG have any significant bargaining power to influence policy decision.

This is not the case with the Greens. The greens preferences have been crucial, and unless its a landslide, will continue to be crucial in the upcoming election. Without the Greens, Labor would have been irrelevant for the past decade or so. Unless Labor come out and follow the coalition lead, Labor will be continued to be seen as aligning themselves with the greens imo.

All Kevin has to do is come out and say that he will be preferncing the greens last, and then, their can be no question about their position. Any party, independent etc that assists Labor to hold onto power is directly helping the greens cause. Katter is no exception.

To get back on track, the Greens would have a wish list they will use (and good on them) to negotiate, and one of them will undoubtedly be something like what is being proposed in post #1
.

[blockerroach]

nice map, why didnt you upload the actual map from the government website?
propaganda aimed at emotional voters on here.
ask anyone on here if they are delighted at spending heaps of money on boats, fishing gear and bait to come home with a few fish only at times.
real facts please, not hyperbole.

[Richo1]

I'm of the opinion that recreational fishers are benefiting from the reserves that are in place now and so can see benefits extending them.

the "cargo and bulk carriers" statement also displays a distinct ignorance because 'bulk' is 'cargo'.

will probably get banned or deleted now :)

The shipping industry uses the term cargo and bulk to describe the type of operation. Yes they are both cargo, however the difference is the way the product is carried.
Cargo ships carry products in individual, packaged, containerized, or boxed form. Often carrying a multitude of different products at the same time.

Bulk carriers carry one particular product in large quantities ( in bulk) stowed in holds eg. Grain, bauxite, iron ore, salt, sugar etc.

Bob Katter voted against a ALP government at the last election unlike the other independents, he also voted against the expansion of marine parks in parliament.

Mark Robinson if you think KAP will side with the greens or The ALP in the next election then you don't know Bob Katter very well do you?

Regards
Richo

[Camhawk88]

nice map, why didnt you upload the actual map from the government website?
propaganda aimed at emotional voters on here.
ask anyone on here if they are delighted at spending heaps of money on boats, fishing gear and bait to come home with a few fish only at times.
real facts please, not hyperbole.
In Phill's defence he has just put up the email he received- I received the same one and I couldn't see the map properly either.

Agree it is deliberately so in order to appeal to emotion rather than critical thinking. It still concerns me that this is the not so thin edge of the wedge.

[Mike Delisser]

Hi Mike.

I understand what you are saying, and there is merit in the example you provided questioning the over simplified assertion that I stated, however they are different situations. Labor formed government with the greens, and have had a long standing relationship, despite the more recent public spats. There is no such link between the coalition and the FNG, nor does the FNG have any significant bargaining power to influence policy decision.

This is not the case with the Greens. The greens preferences have been crucial, and unless its a landslide, will continue to be crucial in the upcoming election. Without the Greens, Labor would have been irrelevant for the past decade or so. Unless Labor come out and follow the coalition lead, Labor will be continued to be seen as aligning themselves with the greens imo.

All Kevin has to do is come out and say that he will be preferncing the greens last, and then, their can be no question about their position. Any party, independent etc that assists Labor to hold onto power is directly helping the greens cause. Katter is no exception.

To get back on track, the Greens would have a wish list they will use (and good on them) to negotiate, and one of them will undoubtedly be something like what is being proposed in post #1
.

Agreed every situation is different but the Fred Nile Group (Christian Democratic Party), along with the Shooters n Fishers do hold the balance of power in the NSW upper House of Barry O'Farrell's Coalition Government.
As you used the line "you can't have it both ways" I was just interested to see how far that extended, broadly speaking. Personally I don't think any 2 separate parties could be said to share a policy agenda just because they share a preference deal with a common 3rd party.

A preference deal such as Katter's and Labor's is about winning seats, nothing more, nothing less. The actual deal is Katter Party will be preferenced ahead of the Greens on Labor's Qld Senate ticket. This move should give Katter's mob a Senate seat at the expense of one of the Greens, well that's the plan anyway. I don't know about you, but I would much rather see a Katter Party member in the Senate than another Green. In return Katter will preference Labor in a few Qld lower house seats, 1 seat Labor hopes to hang on to, and 2 seats it could have a slight chance of winning off the Nats.

If anyone is trying link Katter with the Greens on Marine Parks they are trying to pull the wool over your eyes. On this issue (and most others) his party is opposed to the Greens. Even now, and right from the start Katter's party has been working with Rex Hunt and the group "Keep Australia Fishing" to fight against Labor's Marine Park closures. Hell!, Katter voted against the Carbon Tax and his party will be voting with the Coalition to repeal it after the election, hardly in bed with the Greens is it.

Don't get sucked in, Katter's mob is still fighting against the Marine Park closures, and unlike Labor or the Coalition they actually want to return the parks to fishermen. Dig deep enough and you'll discover those pushing links between Katter and Marine Parks expansions are really just worried about Labor picking up a central Qld seat off the Nationals.

Cheers

[Mark Robinson MP]

At this federal election:
A vote for Greens = more lockouts
A vote for Labor = more lockouts
Now, since Katters preference deal with Labor
A vote for Katter = more lockouts

Only a vote for LNP = no new lockouts

[Mark Robinson MP]

At this federal election:
A vote for Greens = more lockouts
A vote for Labor = more lockouts
Now, since Katters preference deal with Labor
A vote for Katter = more lockouts

Only a vote for LNP = no new lockouts

[Richo1]

At this federal election:
A vote for Greens = more lockouts
A vote for Labor = more lockouts
Now, since Katters preference deal with Labor
A vote for Katter = more lockouts

Only a vote for LNP = no new lockouts
This morning the KAP said, media reports that preference votes are going to ALP are false! It appears some preference votes will go to ALP in queensland to force out the greens.

[Triple]

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-18/katter27s-party-announces-ballot-preferences-deal/4894508

[lampuki]

Hi Mike,

Since my post, Katter's position has become clear and my fears were unfounded. I have learnt not to trust a politicians future decisions by their actions/comments of the past.

"As you used the line "you can't have it both ways" I was just interested to see how far that extended, broadly speaking. Personally I don't think any 2 separate parties could be said to share a policy agenda just because they share a preference deal with a common 3rd party."

It extends all the way. I agree with the above comment, unless the ploicy agenda was included as part of the preference deal.

I despise the amount of power minority groups hold over the majority, wether that be the FNG, greens or whoever.

[Richo1]

Hi all,
Got this email today from the KAT party;


"We are currently subject to one of the most devious and misleading media campaigns by the Liberal Party regarding preferences.

Members need to understand firstly the facts surrounding the issue and some of the likely impacts. It is highly important that this is then communicated aggressively throughout your networks so that people are better informed.

Here are some facts:

* KAP is running in 7 states in the upper house.
In only one out of the seven we have preferenced ALP ahead of LNP. This is clearly a heavy bias towards LNP in the upper house.

* The major preference deal made was to swap preferences with the Katter’s Australian Party (KAP) and Palmer United Party across Australian in the lower house.

* Many other deals were made with all parties in the upper house including heavy consultation with the Liberal party.

* Of the 150 Lower House seats in Australia we are running in 65. Candidates ultimately determine their own preference flows in the Lower House seats not the Party. At this stage maybe 7 of these will preference ALP ahead of LNP. Again, it could be said that this is too heavy a bias towards the LNP.

* In the last federal election it was LNP preferences that got the only Greens member elected in the lower house, Adam Bandt. Ironically the LNP are now preferencing ALP in this seat. You could easily argue now that a vote for the LNP in that seat is a vote for Labour.

The major parties can’t afford to have the KAP consolidate its political position nationally and will use any dirty trick necessary to undermine our campaign. This latest strategy of saying we are preferencing ALP will only be successful if people remain uninformed.

It is critical that we transcend these diversionary tactics and stick to the real issues that are the foundations of our existence. The Labor Party, the Liberals and the rural division of the Liberal Party have all embraced policies that are destroying industry and prosperity in Australia. If the debate descends into political games then the big guys have won. We need the debate to focus on preserving agriculture, small business, manufacturing and jobs in Australia

We like all other parties have made deals to maximise our chances of success this election. If we don’t aim to do this we may as well pack up and go home or become a branch of one of the major parties. The deals we have done have given us the opportunity to ascend to be the next major political force in Australian politics and as major media outlets have reported, we have been quite successful in this approach.

It is vital that members across Australian see beyond this scare campaign by the Liberal Party who are terrified of the growth we are capable of. In Queensland state parliament our three state members have been on the end of the most vicious attacks. The LNP government in Queensland also introduced and passed legislation then voted with the ALP in the last hour of parliament last year to deny the KAP any minor party resources. These are desperate acts from a party terrified of a growing threat.

We exist to take on the major party duopoly without fear or favour. This is the time to show some resolve for what we believe in and not succumb to the bullying tactics of the major parties.

I am confident that people will continue to follow us so long as the debate remains on substance not political spin.

Kind regards,
Robbie Katter
Party President"

Cheers Richo

[Lucky_Phill]

Media Release – 26 August 2013

Abbott answers Aussie anglers call – he won’t lock us out!

Addressing the Australian Fishing Trade Association’s 2013 Fishing Tackle, Marine and Outdoor Trade
Show, Coalition Leader The Hon Tony Abbott said he had listened to Australia’s rec fishers and will
suspend the Marine Park process and initiate an independent scientific review.
Australian Recreational Fishing Foundation’s Managing Director, Allan Hansard, said “rec fishers
around Australia will thank Mr Abbott and his party for their commitment to the recreational fishing
community and to stop the marine park the lock outs.”

Mr Abbotts statement followed calls by the rec fishing community through a media campaign for an
immediate independent scientific review of the marine park process. “We are pleased he has
answered. We are still waiting for Mr Rudd to answer our call.” Mr Hansard said.

ENDS
Media Contact: Alice Logan Edwards
Mob: 0419 464 270
Email: alice.loganedwards@afta.net.au

[Mike Delisser]

At this federal election:
A vote for Greens = more lockouts
A vote for Labor = more lockouts
Now, since Katters preference deal with Labor
A vote for Katter = more lockouts

Only a vote for LNP = no new lockouts

I thought the Mods of this forum frowned upon misleading posts ::)

[Mark Robinson MP]

My point is that there is a difference between 1. ordering preferences without a deal and 2. preference swaps as a deal. If there is a deal, doesn't that create a partnership of sorts? If so then my comments are relevant.

[Mike Delisser]

At this federal election:
A vote for Greens = more lockouts
A vote for Labor = more lockouts
Now, since Katters preference deal with Labor
A vote for Katter = more lockouts
Only a vote for LNP = no new lockouts

My point is that there is a difference between 1. ordering preferences without a deal and 2. preference swaps as a deal. If there is a deal, doesn't that create a partnership of sorts? If so then my comments are relevant.

The point is MP Mark you said a vote for Katter is a vote for more lockouts, which you know is a false and misleading statement aimed at discrediting the Katter party.

Perhaps if the LNP delivered on some of the statements and promises you made before the last state election you would have more credibility on rec-fishing issues.

[Angryant]

Perhaps if the LNP delivered on some of the statements and promises you made before the last state election you would have more credibility on rec-fishing issues.

Fair call - what happened to the one line only in Green Zones for example?

[Gazza]

At this federal election:
A vote for Greens = more lockouts
A vote for Labor = more lockouts
Now, since Katters preference deal with Labor
A vote for Katter = more lockouts

Only a vote for LNP = no new lockoutsMark ,you really have to stop this baulking shit of LNP-Qld non-actions.... :stop:

m8 , go back into your cave , as has timi it seems , or put up some
LNP-QLD recfisho areas greater than what was previously allowed ,
before you headjobbed Bligh , into practicality...aka MAKE-IT-HAPPEN...aka Can-Do?

as for TA commercial fish policy , ....
MARK-MP a question
Q. How is a QLD land-based Fisher-person any better-off with Federal Porklicy

[Camhawk88]

MARK-MP a question
Q. How is a QLD land-based Fisher-person any better-off with Federal Porklicy

Great question Gaz. With funding being removed/greatly reduced from the fishways and habitat groups the land based fisho is actually worse off than they were before.

Care to refute this Mark or simply ignore it and go on telling LIES?

Your engagement was once welcomed, it is now seen as just another polly trying to buy the fishing vote. Your credibility is shot mate.