Ideal Sounder for Tiller Setup

[Splash]

Ideas and pictures anyone?

Position, brand, size and techniques to keep sunlight out of viewing?


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[marto78]

I know the Furunos come with an anti glare coating on the screen but you will be able to get a stick on anti glare sheet for pretty much any sounder screen off of ebay for bugger all, so IMO pick whatever sounder you think will be best suited to the type of fishing you will be doing.

[Splash]

THanks.

What about positioning of the sounder when using a tiller?

What to use and where to place it?

How far away is too far from eyes?

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[marto78]

I have a Furuno FCV620 mounted on top of the console and I can still see it clearly 3m away in the back corner of the boat when fishing.

[Splash]

Thanks for that Marto.

I never thought these units could be viewed from such a long away.....

I have the Furuno 585 unit (large colour screen).

Check out my hull (in photos attached) and you will see the SC that I am considering using it as a mounting station for everything (including the sounder) as I will be gong tiller instead.

I guess - my next concern is this - how much of a hassle would it be not being able to toggle the buttons (for changing depth, etc..) whilst underway if I placed this sounder within this SC unit??

My other option is to remove this console and connect a RAM Mount onto the side hand rail on the gunnell - rear starboard....

This will free up space in the cockpit as well.





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[marto78]

Before you buy any brackets I would be taking your boat out into full sun with the sounder on demo mode and moving it around the boat to see where the best position for it would be. If you are mostly fishing creeks and rivers how often will you have to change the depth range anyway? If the transducer works well at speed you could always leave the depth setting in auto mode.

[pig75]

There are some pictures in this thread
http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/showthread.php?158332-Fish-Finder-Position-open-tinny&p=1125516#post1125516

[Splash]

Thanks Guys.

Marto - I also have the M260 Wetbox ikW in hull transducer
http://www.chsmith.com.au/Products/M260-1kw-In-Hull-Transducer.html

Would this transducer be overkill for river fishing in the NT?

How would this transducer perform with the polycraft / plastic medium ?

Should I remove the SC unit?

Pig - thanks for link and I LOVE that ram mount you used coming up from the bottom of the side wall. Please tell me what model number you used, fitment methodology, etc...

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[pig75]

It's a ram D 101 Works great never moves

[marto78]

I only have the 600w transom mount transducer on my boat and can see fish clearly in 70m of water so I don't think you will have a problem with the 1kw model in the river, you might upset a few mud geckos tho lol
As for it working through the hull I don't know too much about that style of transducer but I can't see it being a problem at least you won't bust it off on a sandbar or something.
The side console is a great place to put everything IMO and if you decide you don't like it you can always rip it out at a later stage. The only thing I don't like about it is the tinted wind screen as you can't see bugger all through them at night.

[Chas & Clarry]

I guess - my next concern is this - how much of a hassle would it be not being able to toggle the buttons (for changing depth, etc..) whilst underway if I placed this sounder within this SC unit??

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Not being able to toggle underway would be a PITA IMO...

Tim

[Splash]

thanks boys.

Pig75 - What was your choice on the D101 over the multitude of all other RAM mounts on offer?

What was your motivation to mount from bottom - as opposed to something perhaps more at eye level, etc??

And, what about sun piercing over your shoulder as you look down into this screen - any issues there?

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[Squidlet]

You will not need a 1kw trany up here,unless you find the mother of all holes,you will find deeper holes where your working.Just go fishing its not that high tec!!!!
Cheers Chris.

[Splash]

Totally Agree Chris !!

I am sure I could have fished that hole last year though....lol

I will place the 585 and 1KW ducer into cotton wool and buy something less powerful... any ideas?

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[Squidlet]

I have the 585 in my rig and imo it does not like the quick changes that you will experience in the estuary or river system,i have the garmin 551s as a back up sounder,i use this in the shallower water and it serves it purpose!!!
Cheers Chris.

[Splash]

thanks mate!!!

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It's a ram D 101 Works great never moves

Hi again.

There are 4 pages of D101 Ram mounts.

Can you possibly specify the exact model number of the D101 you refer to?


Thank you

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[pig75]

Ok my bad it was ram-111-D. They have changed there numbering system since i got mine
I have a RAM-201-D arm, RAM-202 bottom and RAM-107B top

[Splash]

Thanks - Pig - I'll check them out.

How do you find viewing the 111-D with respect to sun shing through from over your shoudler?

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[pig75]

Never had a problem with viewing my 798 humminbird in direct sun

[Splash]

Ok my bad it was ram-111-D. They have changed there numbering system since i got mine
I have a RAM-201-D arm, RAM-202 bottom and RAM-107B top

Hi Pig.

Excuse my ignorance, but I am perplexed by this arrangement...

This is my understanding - you purchased a complete Ram-Mount (111-D) assy, but then retrofitted the RAM-201-D arm, RAM-202 bottom and RAM-107B top at a later date...?

Is this correct?

Is there a single Ram-Mount that will achieve the exact same reach and mounting as like yours without having to retrofit anything?

Alternatively, can you custom make your mount with the supplier by requesting different parts to be assembled as one before it is sent to you??



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[pig75]

When i got mine it was a ram-111-D but they seem to have changed the numbering system. Now the 111-D has the top mount for the larger humminbird units witch didn't exist back then
The RAM-201-D arm, RAM-202 bottom and RAM-107B top. Was the old 111-D
If you just order the RAM-201-D arm, RAM-202 bottom and RAM-107B top it will be the same as i have but it all depends on what sounder you have as they make different tops for different sounders

[Splash]

So, the 111-D is a single assy consisting of RAM-201-D arm, RAM-202 bottom and RAM-107B top?

Do individual parts need to be assembled into one single assy before it gets sent or can individual parts be ordered separately and be easily assembled at home by the purchaser?



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[pig75]

The current 111-D is a single assy consisting of RAM-201-D arm, RAM-202 bottom and RAM-111B top
Just order the individual parts

[Linedropper]

Here is my set up on a Ram swing arm mount. I gave up on the Ram ball mounts as the plasticy rubber on the ball separates from the ball after a bit and wont hold the mount where you set it. This was with a 7" Lowrance combo a while back. When I upgraded from that to the much heavier Garmin I did away with the ball thing all together and went swing arm. The swing arm is much much better in the rough and wont budge or vibrate as much.

http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh629/WETSS/IMG_9617.jpg

http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh629/WETSS/IMG_9618.jpg

http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh629/WETSS/IMG_9616.jpg

[Splash]

Magic setup Linedropper!

Tell me where you obtained this swingarm? (model name and number as well)

How did you house your batteries?


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[Linedropper]

Pretty sure it is this one mate but there are variations http://www.ram-mount.com/CatalogResults/PartDetails/tabid/63/partid/082065077045049048057086/Default.aspx

I got it through a boating shop in Perth when I lived there. Gave them the part number and they ordered for me. Just pick a big Lowrance dealer and they should be able to get it for you.

The batteries are Full River batteries just housed in ally cradles welded to the side pocket with a bit of carpet under the battery to isolate the steel from the ally. Nothing holding them down no probs even in the rough. Had one battery which was an Odyssey for years then it started getting a bit dodgy with my power use so replaced it and added a second battery with a switch.

[Splash]

Fantastic stuff.

I'll be onto this ASAP.

Any others had bad experiences with the balls on the RAM Mounts?

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[purnong]

Fantastic stuff.


Any others had bad experiences with the balls on the RAM Mounts?

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Yep I have but mostly when the boat is on the trailer the sounder is usually not in the position where I left it
Just looking at Linedropper's setup I might go that way as well, by the way nice work there Linedropper, Very neat