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Mark Robinson MP
13-03-2012, 07:36 PM
A CanDo LNP will act to safeguard Queensland's marine resources for the future by ensuring we have an environmentally and economically sustainable fishing industry.
An LNP Government will invest $10 million into a package which will help to restore the health and wellbeing of our fisheries and sustainability in the commercial fishing industry.

The LNP will grow a four pillar economy across our industry, and understands the importance of a viable seafood industry and the interests of the over 750,000 Queenslanders who enjoy recreational fishing.
The tired 20 year Labor Government has ignored the needs of both Queensland seafood industry and our recreational fishers.
Most fishing activity occurs in the East Coast Inshore Fin Fish Fishery, which operates up the entire Queensland east coast.
Fishery management arrangements are complex, however all stakeholders agree that a reduction in fishing pressure is an important step in improving the health of our fishery.
The LNP is committed to delivering a strong, viable, healthy and sustainable commercial fishing industry. Under the Bligh Labor Government the commercial fishing industry has struggled and many fishermen face an uncertain future.
The LNP is committed to the health and wellbeing of our fisheries and will undertake a $9 million voluntary buyback program in consultation with the industry. The buyback will target large mesh and gill nets with a special focus on important recreational fishing locations and areas of high
conservation value.
In addition, to ensure the long term sustainability of our fisheries, we will invest up to $1 million in a range of sustainability measures including enhanced monitoring of fisheries on a regional basis.
This voluntary buyback will deliver greater sustainability for the commercial fishing industry.
Importantly the removal of these nets will deliver positive conservation outcomes for dugongs, turtles and inshore dolphins in waters of the Great Barrier Reef Marine Park.
There will be increased recreational fishing opportunities and a more profitable and sustainable commercial fishing industry.
The LNP understands fishing is one of the most popular pastimes in Queensland, with an estimated 750,000 recreational fishers in this State. Fishing is very much a part of life in Queensland.
It's time for a change. With your help a strong and united LNP Government will get Queensland back on track.
LNP Policy Commitments:
$10 million targeted buyback of commercial fishing licences
Restore the health of Queensland's fishery

wayno60
13-03-2012, 07:44 PM
Hello Mark, thats all well and good but is this an LNP idea or a CANDO idea? What will happen if CANDO becomes a CANTDO.

TREVELLY
13-03-2012, 07:46 PM
Hi Mark,

Can you put up a link where we can read all the LNP fishing policies?

Sure I understand you may have more to release yet - but somewhere they are all together now and when released.

All for buying back the netting especially in tourist sensitive locations that get a few netters ruin it for a lot of tourists wanting to enjoy a family holiday and sharing fishing with the kids. I am not just bashing Netters here either I have read enough reports from up Tewantin way from the locals that report in the monthly mags to see how sad it is for a few nets to trash a lot of families chances of what otherwise would have been a fantastic holiday.

Thanks.

Mark Robinson MP
13-03-2012, 07:59 PM
This announcement is what the LNP will deliver if we win government.
It comes on top of the marine infrastructure fund commitment of $120 million.
More fishing and boating policy to come - just as I said - we would roll out policy once the election was called.
You can keep track on lnp.org.au
Mark

bennykenny
13-03-2012, 07:59 PM
Hey Mark, thanks for posting this, given your somewhat busy schedule. I have a question on the 9 million dollar buyback program, which is how many licences (approx or in a percentage would be better) is 9 million dollars going to buy back?? im not sure how much they would be each to buy back but im sure they wouldnt be that cheap. considering the QLD coast is quite large what kind of effect does $9 million have.
cheers BK

NAGG
13-03-2012, 08:16 PM
Voluntary buyback ........ enough said! .... it's all in the wording - a BS policy If I had ever heard of one

A commercial operator will only sell if he will get the price that he wants ......... We saw pro fishermen demand 100s of $1,000s for loss of income after the problems at Gladstone . and that is over a short period of time !!!!!! What would they want for their licence - $500K ..a Million maybe ?
Ya really going to get a lot of nets out of the water based on those numbers ::)
If you really want to improve the fishery - you need to buyout all licences within a system....not a token buyout that will see some busted ass fishoe get a golden parachute and retire early .

Certainly not excited Mark ....

Chris

rando
13-03-2012, 10:22 PM
Same old same old...
The only management tool they can think of is a reduction in access to the resource for someone. Be it commercial or recreational.
There is only one outcome for us all under this management paradigm. It is an inevitable conclusion that we all end up suffering ever tighter bag limits, size limits, or geographic restrictions on access if someone does not think outside the box on fisheries management.
The one sure thing to understand is that pressure on ALL fisheries WILL continue to increase on all fronts. Loss of habitat, & pollution WILL continue to increase.
When are we going to see some vision.
When are we going to see an attempt to RESTORE the various fisheries rather than manage the remnant biomass.
When are we going to see a paradigm where everybody wins( including the fish) instead of everybody loses a little bit at a time.....

rando
13-03-2012, 10:27 PM
oops ,,, repost this later;)

rando
13-03-2012, 10:38 PM
LNP Policy Commitments:
$10 million targeted buyback of commercial fishing licences
Restore the health of Queensland's fishery


I am absolutely delighted to hear the LNP make this commitment
Please explain how you intend to restore the health of Qld's fishery.

What is the strategy for achieving this objective and what tactics will you employ to implement the strategy.?
What funding is to be applied to the restoration of Qld's fishery.?
What are the parameters you intend, to indicate the fishery's health is restored.
Kind regards
rando

wayno60
13-03-2012, 11:23 PM
Nagg,

you need to buyout all licences within a system

Mate i dont know where all the fish go that the netters catch but im sure they must be selling them somewhere fill some void.
im thinking even if they harved the netters, more fish not getting caught and the ones that are netting make a good living..

Having said that i hate the netters that clean up all the tailor all the way up the eastern seaboard leaving us in Qld with depleated stocks coming through.

cheers

Slider
14-03-2012, 05:53 AM
I have to agree with Nagg - $9 mil isn't going to go very far at all in making any difference to any fishery. The pros that volunteer to have their licences bought back will be the ones having the least impact. The remaining pros will simply fill the void of those bought out and nothing will have been achieved except the remaining pros will be slightly more viable for a little while until stock depletion ultimately gets the better of them all and the bought out licence holders will have a pocket full of money.

Unless all licences within a system are removed, then recs will gain absolutely nothing as any working nets in a system will spook the fish we are being led to believe will become available to them. Unfortunately, the dynamics of each and every fishery in the state works in a manner that is not being addressed in the slightest by any of the political parties' announced policies. Unless, that is, the ALP follow through with their mention of net free regions and actually create these in appropriate locations - should they retain government which seems unlikely.

So what we all need Mark, is net free regions that allow fish stocks to recover, long term commercial viability and tourism to prosperor, or you are wasting time and taxpayers money on a strategy that cannot work.

I am also wondering why there is no mention of any strategies to improve any fishery south of Tin Can Bay. Are tailor to be allowed to simply disappear altogether before any measures to combat their decline are introduced? And Katters plan to make them a rec only species won't work either - the pros netting other species in the same system with the inevitable tailor bycatch, simply means that the tailor will continue to be spooked by the nets with altered migrations and spawning continuing to reduce populations and with recs continuing to not have access to this and all other fish species that the nets are currently spooking.

Btw Mark, I do have a strategy in mind for the recovery of tailor stocks (and several other species) that would cost gov less than a $1 mil. You have my email address.

And to make matters even worse, should the proposed strategies be implemented, then it will be years before further funding will be directed towards real answers to the real problems that exist.

And where are Fisheries Qld in all this? They know, and have admitted privately to me, that nets spook fish that the recs target, but I notice that they don't publicly acknowledge the fact and would seem to prefer to keep their heads in the sand on the issue altogether.

I am very disappointed in what I am seeing.

Lindsay Dines

Lucky_Phill
14-03-2012, 08:39 AM
From another thread.

http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Lucky_Phill http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/showthread.php?p=1361341#post1361341)

[Quote ] Fishery management arrangements are complex, however all stakeholders agree that a reduction in fishing pressure is an important step in improving the health of our fishery.

OK, this statement has me worried. Not too sure if the above is absolutely 100% correct. It is taken out of context in that as stakeholder group discussions have gone, fishing pressure is ONLY 1 PART of the problem. Our words would have been fishing ' effort ', particularly when talking about commercial operations. This statement seems to be setting up a platform for bag and size limit reductions for Rec fishos ?? :-? or, more closed areas / seasons.

The LNP is committed to delivering a strong, viable, healthy and sustainable commercial fishing industry.

Really, this was the reason FQ ( old DPI&F ) was established many years ago, to find and plunder marine species for commercial gain. >:(

The LNP is committed to the health and wellbeing of our fisheries and will undertake a $9 million voluntary buyback program in consultation with the industry. The buyback will target large mesh and gill nets with a special focus on important recreational fishing locations and areas of high
conservation value.

OH, that last bit is a clincher for the WWF. Every drop of Ocean has high conservation value, according to the Loonies. :-X [Quote ]


The LNP will consult with the industry that are going to get as many pieces of gold as they can, due to Govt legislation. ::) The MBMP issue was a farce with $%#@ all reduction in " effort " but many licences bought back.

Worse still, was the GBRMP zoings and " compensation ", first announced as 4 million dollars and has now exceeded 200 million of TAX PAYERS MONEY.

Let's face it, the ALP had no idea on this type of scheme ( scam ), so I only hope that the LNP have more of an idea on what they are doing, and to do that, they must NOT consult with the commercial industry ALONE, all stakeholders must at least have their say and an open / public showing of the licences, history, owners, Quota, TAC and more so that every dollar that goes to the scheme recieves something in return. NO paper shuffling >:(

Personally, I am having a bob each way on commercial buybacks.

On one hand, I believe a reduction in " non discriminatory " netting is good and essential.

I am still not overly impressed with the by-catch reduction efforts from the trawl industry in Moreton Bay / SEQ.

On the other hand, I believe Queensland has and can continue to have a viable and sustainable commercial fishery, given better management protocols. I would love to see more local product on our shelves to let the non-fisher folk savour our oceans delights.

I also see way too much C R A P coming in from OS. Someone here eluded to something I said the other day and it certainly rings true in our seafood retail outlets..... you can cover a prawn and a turd in sprinkles and they will look the same, but you WILL taste the difference ;) :-X 8-) 8-)

LP

Camhawk88
14-03-2012, 09:33 AM
LNP Policy Commitments:
$10 million targeted buyback of commercial fishing licences
Restore the health of Queensland's fishery


I am absolutely delighted to hear the LNP make this commitment
Please explain how you intend to restore the health of Qld's fishery.

What is the strategy for achieving this objective and what tactics will you employ to implement the strategy.?
What funding is to be applied to the restoration of Qld's fishery.?
What are the parameters you intend, to indicate the fishery's health is restored.
Kind regards
rando


Cmon Rando- you dont expect Mark to answer questions do you?

His MO is clear as day- get on the forum drop a bomb of some sort whether a rhetorical question about what the ALP have done or a (finally with about a week and a half to go) policy then remain mute when any questions are asked of him.

The holes in this policy are abundant as has been pointed out. Further more there is no additional info to the one mentioned in the $120M marine infrustructure policy.

And speaking of the need to protect habitats (and I am aware of the irony in asking this question given my previous couple of paragraphs) the ALP has implemented the Reef Plan to address this and even though it is by no means a perfect policy it is headed in the right direction. Mark what are the LNP going to do to protect the habitat from the effects of land based industry and runoff?

Holding my breath in eager anticipation:wut:

NAGG
14-03-2012, 10:44 AM
Is anyone excited about the Policy ?

Chris

trymyluck
14-03-2012, 11:42 AM
Is anyone excited about the Policy ?

Chris

Policy what policy..........

fisho8
15-03-2012, 07:38 PM
I am not really excited about anything any of these clowns have to offer ALP or LNP sorry to sound negative but I think they are all full of shit to be quite honest. The level of cantidates these days is well below par. The way I see it we will be ####ed either way. The cost of living in this state is out of control rego,fuel,water,electricity,rates, qld health is in a mess the list goes on. Nobody know's how to fix it and probly never will I am sick of hearing pollies making excuses for their ####up's and blaming other departments. I am over the whole thing really it is beyond a joke. As for this policy I will believe it when I see it. It is easy to blow sunshine up people's arses gease their palm's up and tell them all the wonderful things they will get but the proof will be in the pudding as far as I see it.:)

bg1000
16-03-2012, 10:55 AM
Can't beleive the negativity on here. Everyone whinges about net fishing and then the moment someone announces something that may help out, you pick every little thing he has to say apart. No wonder he does not answer your questions.

Now you all will probly have a go at me for pointing this out.

This policy has come through a proposal by Sunfish, Qsia (Queensland Seafood Industry Association) and WWF. Its not just some spin Mark has made up. And I'm sure each one of these organisations will be on the back of the LNP to ensure that the money is used effectively, if they are to come into power.

Some of you on here really believe that the public have no right to access this resource and that it should be wholly and soley for the recreational fisher. its quite ashame to see the attitude of some people towards commercial fisherman, these commercial fisherman must all be really bad people.

Surely there not just trying to supply the public with seafood. They must really go out of there way to upset every recreactional fisherman.

rando
16-03-2012, 11:49 AM
Can't beleive the negativity on here. Everyone whinges about net fishing and then the moment someone announces something that may help out, you pick every little thing he has to say apart. No wonder he does not answer your questions.

We have seen the results of previous buyback schemes and we know them to be largely ineffective in achieving any advantage for the fishery.Typically they spend huge amounts of our taxes buying latent effort licences.

Now you all will probly have a go at me for pointing this out.

We might try to point out some flaws in your argument

This policy has come through a proposal by Sunfish, Qsia (Queensland Seafood Industry Association) and WWF. Its not just some spin Mark has made up. And I'm sure each one of these organisations will be on the back of the LNP to ensure that the money is used effectively, if they are to come into power.

Analyse the source,,,, QSIA,WWF,, any vested interests there??? any reason recreational fishermen may feel their best interests may not be served???

Some of you on here really believe that the public have no right to access this resource and that it should be wholly and soley for the recreational fisher. its quite ashame to see the attitude of some people towards commercial fisherman, these commercial fisherman must all be really bad people.

Some commercial fishermen believe that the licences they buy entitle them to all the fish in their licence category, and that it is therefore their resource and not publically owned,,, and they behave accordingly.

Surely there not just trying to supply the public with seafood.

First and foremost they are conducting a business that provides them an income,,,altruism is as much a part of their business model as it is for a restauranteur,or any other commercial enterprise.

They must really go out of there way to upset every recreactional fisherman.

Ask a commercial fisherman whether the beliefs of recreational fishermen upset him.

If Mark Robinson wants to represent me in the parliament of Queensland as the minister in charge of fisheries, he better bloody listen to what I want to happen in Queenslands fisheries,,, and attempt to achieve it because thats what I will be paying him a fat salary to do.

rando

charleville
16-03-2012, 12:25 PM
Oh bewdy! Another political thread. :wut:



I can't wait for 25th March when we can start seeing the "We wuz robbed" threads.


:end:



;D


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Camhawk88
16-03-2012, 01:07 PM
Oh bewdy! Another political thread. :wut:



I can't wait for 25th March when we can start seeing the "We wuz robbed" threads.


:end:



;D


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The thread title wasnt a give away?

mayer60
16-03-2012, 05:14 PM
Ask a commercial fisherman whether the beliefs of recreational fishermen upset him.

If Mark Robinson wants to represent me in the parliament of Queensland as the minister in charge of fisheries, he better bloody listen to what I want to happen in Queenslands fisheries,,, and attempt to achieve it because thats what I will be paying him a fat salary to do.

rando

Well rando i work in the commercial fishing industry and if recreational fisherman want
1.a sustainable fishery
2.no more closed areas
3.a reduction in the number of commercial fishing licences
4. better boat ramp facilities
5.proper use of taxpayers money...then
i would have to say that i wouldn't get upset....

Gazza
16-03-2012, 06:43 PM
Yeah mayer60 , ADD to that.....

Reduce RecBoat rego's by 50% now , and only CPI increases in future

Allow one(1) rod one(1) hook in present NFZ's

Re-Instate the Snapper baglimit to 5min.

Declare the VMR/Coastguard as "Essential Services" and fund adequately from Cons.Rev.

Quarantine any RecFishing fines into an audited "Honey Pot" to supplement further arti reefs.
....AND.... I'd be as happy as a Pig in Mud

Over to you Mark , please do your best to "Deliver" on our behalf.:laola:

charleville
16-03-2012, 07:01 PM
That is an excellent list, Gazza. :)


I am gonna vote for you!



8-)



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Lucky_Phill
16-03-2012, 07:38 PM
Yeah mayer60 , ADD to that.....

Reduce RecBoat rego's by 50% now , and only CPI increases in future

Allow one(1) rod one(1) hook in present NFZ's

Re-Instate the Snapper baglimit to 5min.

Declare the VMR/Coastguard as "Essential Services" and fund adequately from Cons.Rev.

Quarantine any RecFishing fines into an audited "Honey Pot" to supplement further arti reefs.
....AND.... I'd be as happy as a Pig in Mud

Over to you Mark , please do your best to "Deliver" on our behalf.

Can someone call 000 and get a paramedic over to my place.

Gazza has actually said something, actually come forth with info and an inteligable statement ..........

:vrolijk_26::laola::vrolijk_26:


hang on.............. he's copied that from my post from 3 weeks ago >:( >:( :P ;D


LP

Gazza
16-03-2012, 07:48 PM
Gazza has actually said something, actually come forth with info and an inteligable statement ..........If you could spel " Intelligible " correctly , I would have given U a "thanks" ;D

charleville
16-03-2012, 08:27 PM
hang on.............. he's copied that from my post from 3 weeks ago



Ah - as in all things, timing is everything! ::)


I's still voting for Gazza!


:laola:


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Fafnir
16-03-2012, 08:38 PM
Oh bewdy! Another political thread. :wut:



I can't wait for 25th March when we can start seeing the "We wuz robbed" threads.


Will their be a ban on any further political posts from midnight this coming Wednesday until after the election on Saturday in line with the media blackout as set out in the Broadcasting Services Act 1992 (Cth)?

Lucky_Phill
16-03-2012, 09:12 PM
Oi......... reinstate is one word......... :P

and....... bag limit is 2 words... :P

don;t go gettin all inter- leck-tuall on me now !!!


:)

Lucky_Phill
16-03-2012, 09:13 PM
Will their be a ban on any further political posts from midnight this coming Wednesday until after the election on Saturday in line with the media blackout as set out in the Broadcasting Services Act 1992 (Cth)?

I like that idea.

might talk to the boss and see if we should follow the " Act ". :)


LP

PinHead
16-03-2012, 09:16 PM
Oh bewdy! Another political thread. :wut:



I can't wait for 25th March when we can start seeing the "We wuz robbed" threads.


:end:



;D


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Have you got something left for them to rob? I thought they got everything from all of us already.

PinHead
16-03-2012, 09:18 PM
I like that idea.

might talk to the boss and see if we should follow the " Act ". :)


LP

LOL..we aren't the media Phill..and you have the power..lock all those political threads...they are good comedic relief though.

Let's get back to more serious issues..grog in supermarkets and the check out dividers..these are things that really matter.

Lucky_Phill
16-03-2012, 09:43 PM
But we are........... we are " Social Media ".

I didn't have " spacer " issues today.......... I went through the 12 items or less Checkout......

But, I did see a yummy mummy fondling the Lebanese cucumbers....... pity I was in a hurry, because that is a great conversation starter... :)



LP

krocspoon
17-03-2012, 03:04 AM
come on rando sunfish has it all under control,no need to worry
Ask a commercial fisherman whether the beliefs of recreational fishermen upset him.

If Mark Robinson wants to represent me in the parliament of Queensland as the minister in charge of fisheries, he better bloody listen to what I want to happen in Queenslands fisheries,,, and attempt to achieve it because thats what I will be paying him a fat salary to do.

rando

NAGG
17-03-2012, 05:59 AM
[QUOTE=bg1000;1363135]Can't beleive the negativity on here. Everyone whinges about net fishing and then the moment someone announces something that may help out, you pick every little thing he has to say apart. No wonder he does not answer your questions.

Now you all will probly have a go at me for pointing this out.

/QUOTE]

Licence buy backs do work - no doubt about it ! - However what most of us realise that what Mark has proposed is just a election stunt that has just been thrown out there to make us fishoes all warm and fuzzy about the LNP.
$10M (buyback) will do SFA for Qld ..... add to that it is voluntary .. Those that will sell are those that are looking for a golden parachute prior to retirement - and then they will want a mint for it . So how many licences will be bought with $10 M ...... ?? 50 maybe .. a 100 :-? How many licences are in circulation between the Tweed & Noosa ? - A 100 plus :-? ........ so what about the rest of the state ?.

The only way to get real benefit is to buyout all licences within a estuary system or region - ( Noosa , Moreton bay , Tweed ,Fraser , Curtis Is , Townsville , Cairns , Mackay etc etc ) ...... as part of an overall strategy . Yes peoples livelihoods would be lost but sadly commercial net fishing is neither sustainable or the way forward.
I would rather see the nets taken out of the system & money put into the development aquaculture ( business models have to change)....... lets face it - a hell of a lot of the fish eaten these days is farmed anyway!
As for those commercial fishermen - I've met / seen quite a few in my travels over the years the one thing that stands true ....... they are only in it for the money & will take as much as they can (or allowed to ) - Anyone who saw their behavior at Gladstone from the 1st Feb 2011 can attest to that ....... taking of 100s of tonne of Awoonga escapee barra - that were neither fit for human consumption but worst still sold as wild fish - and then ..... a high percentage of the catch was rejected and dumped .
They see their licence as a right to plunder and make as much as they can ........ No it's time to move on ....... besides Rec fishing is worth so much more to this state than commercial fishing anyway - time for the pollies to realise it! (NSW did over 10 years ago ..... and NT did it with their barra fishery even longer still.):)

Chris

Homer_Jay
17-03-2012, 10:13 AM
A good policy from the LNP to reverse the stampo duty increases (Suits me anyway).
http://www.candoqld.com.au/policies/lower-the-cost-of-living-by-cutting-waste/cutting-the-cost-of-living-stamp-duty

Now, my question to Mark,
If THIS policy can be reversed, WHY cant the Can Do team REVERSE the huge increases on Regos? Why state that the rego increases are such a "rip off" but the LNP policy is to "freeze" them? (What does freeze the mean anyway? Does this just mean freeze until the next hike in 12 months time??). So, CanDo reverse the rego hike? Or Cant Do???
You are all for us "fisho's" and keeping the cost down for us to go fishing (remember your slagging off the Fed Lab carbon tax), this is something you do have some power over (forget federal issuses).

Me, I dont really have a problem with the rego costs (as long as the money is used where it needs to be) BUT I do have a problem with the LNP going on about the "unfair" rego increases but doing nothing about them. To freeze them says you agree with them, do not tell me otherwise. If you DO NOT agree with them...... then reverse them!

I reckon that is simple.

Mark, I reckon it is time for you to "grow some" and answer some of the questions put to you on this forum. You seem to find time to use it as an advertisment for the LNP but are no where to be seen after you "drop the bomb" (as mentioned by someone else).

If you want the votes, then treat the people here with some respect.

charleville
17-03-2012, 02:09 PM
All of this stuff about fishing policies is a bit academic.:-?


If the LNP gets elected to government, discretionary policies affecting recreations like fishing are likely to be so far down the priority list for the first term of government that I reckon that you won't see any implementation of anything at all until the second year of their second term. :(


By that time, Phill will have resigned his membership in frustration and joined the Labor Party.


;D

Gazza
17-03-2012, 02:37 PM
Phillet your fish , Mark my words ;D



Reduce RecBoat rego's by 50% now , and only CPI increases in future

Allow one(1) rod one(1) hook in present NFZ's

Reinstate the Snapper bag limit to 5min.

Declare the VMR/Coastguard as "Essential Services" and fund adequately from Cons.Rev.

Quarantine any RecFishing fines into an audited "Honey Pot" to supplement further arti reefs.
....AND.... I'd be as happy as a Pig in Mud

Over to you Mark , please do your best to "Deliver" on our behalf.:laola:

frogfuzz
18-03-2012, 09:11 AM
A good policy from the LNP to reverse the stampo duty increases (Suits me anyway).
http://www.candoqld.com.au/policies/lower-the-cost-of-living-by-cutting-waste/cutting-the-cost-of-living-stamp-duty

Now, my question to Mark,
If THIS policy can be reversed, WHY cant the Can Do team REVERSE the huge increases on Regos? Why state that the rego increases are such a "rip off" but the LNP policy is to "freeze" them? .

The reason is that if you add the ALP-Green Federal Debt per QLD'er to the ALP-Green State QLD Debt per QLD'er we have a per capita debt higher than that of Greece. Have you seen what has been going on in Greece???? If China stops buying our dirt we'll be in the same boat. Maybe Kate Jones' partner can give some of his $450,000 taxpayer funded salary to paying off the debt? Or maybe Blights partner with his $300,000 taxpayer funded salary..... Then they have the hyde to go on about Campbell's "web of lies and deceit" Seeehhhhss!!!! Oh and for the record - I'm not voting LNP. I'll be voting KAP No1; then Shooters and Fishers, then...then... then.... then LNP, Then ALP, Then other Leftards.

For 20 years the electorate has voted for idiots - and now we are paying our masters (eg foreign Bankers). I'm sure the ALP-Greens care though, that the working families they apparentley represent can't afford basic utility bills now...... Call me callous but if you voted for ALP-Green over the last 20 years and now you complain about utility bills / lack of fishing access etc...really, you have got what you voted for in the past... Growing up all my 40 years in and around Moreton Bay I have seen what these Leftards have done with their rules regulations and Fun Police. I hope they are consigned to the dustbin come Saturday.

rando
18-03-2012, 04:33 PM
Goes to show just how committed any of them are to real governance'
The best they can do after supposedly consulting the stakeholders is a bogus voluntary buyback. A bogus dredging program, and some boat-ramps pontoons and artificials. To name but a few the miserable vote buying bribes

No real effort applied to the hard questions, just an poor attempt to be seen to be doing something.
I am disgusted.

tunaticer
18-03-2012, 05:02 PM
What is the bet that Marky will front again one or two nights before the election with some grandiose statement hoping we will take it as a bonus for the rec sector??

Personally i think the best thing that could be done by the next govt is to minimise the imports and exports much more tightly. This will shorten the number of commercial licences that are specialising in export and give the local markets more local fish and less crap and dangerous imports.
The ramps, pontoons, arti reefs and freezing regos are just vote buyers and will not make much difference to the average Joe unless he uses that particular ramp.

Why should the govt go on about protecting the stocks yet let the stocks be reaped for export at the same time? All but close off the latter and the fish stocks will fare much better and we will get a real look at the domestic market and how it affects the stock levels.

I don't care if the coles and woolies must source local produce, I don't care if the Markwells and the Morgans and the rest of the coops must source locally, if they cherish their businesses they will adapt, if they don't they will close. The retail sector will still be here and the demand will be met with local seafoods, that have employed local people to harvest and sell.

PinHead
18-03-2012, 05:07 PM
The reason is that if you add the ALP-Green Federal Debt per QLD'er to the ALP-Green State QLD Debt per QLD'er we have a per capita debt higher than that of Greece. Have you seen what has been going on in Greece???? If China stops buying our dirt we'll be in the same boat. Maybe Kate Jones' partner can give some of his $450,000 taxpayer funded salary to paying off the debt? Or maybe Blights partner with his $300,000 taxpayer funded salary..... Then they have the hyde to go on about Campbell's "web of lies and deceit" Seeehhhhss!!!! Oh and for the record - I'm not voting LNP. I'll be voting KAP No1; then Shooters and Fishers, then...then... then.... then LNP, Then ALP, Then other Leftards.

For 20 years the electorate has voted for idiots - and now we are paying our masters (eg foreign Bankers). I'm sure the ALP-Greens care though, that the working families they apparentley represent can't afford basic utility bills now...... Call me callous but if you voted for ALP-Green over the last 20 years and now you complain about utility bills / lack of fishing access etc...really, you have got what you voted for in the past... Growing up all my 40 years in and around Moreton Bay I have seen what these Leftards have done with their rules regulations and Fun Police. I hope they are consigned to the dustbin come Saturday.

I have to ask..have you done any reasearch on the electorate you are voting in?

Camhawk88
19-03-2012, 09:32 AM
Yeah mayer60 , ADD to that.....

Reduce RecBoat rego's by 50% now , and only CPI increases in future

Allow one(1) rod one(1) hook in present NFZ's

Re-Instate the Snapper baglimit to 5min.

Declare the VMR/Coastguard as "Essential Services" and fund adequately from Cons.Rev.

Quarantine any RecFishing fines into an audited "Honey Pot" to supplement further arti reefs.
....AND.... I'd be as happy as a Pig in Mud



Yes- a flying pig in mud.

Lovey80
19-03-2012, 04:38 PM
Well that 10million will not go far as others have said. The policy only needs a few tweaks to be a cracker. Mark Robinson, you want something for Rec Anglers to jump up and down about and only comitt 10million dollars and leave it open ended for future "advancements" of Rec Fishing and Tourism policy? Here's how a LNP policy should look (emphasis is mine).

Safeguarding Queensland's Marine Resources: another LNP fishing policy announcement
A CanDo LNP will act to safeguard Queensland's marine resources for the future by ensuring we have an environmentally and economically sustainable fishing industry.
An LNP Government will invest $10 million into a package which will help to restore the health and wellbeing of our fisheries and sustainability in the commercial fishing industry.

The LNP will grow a four pillar economy across our industry, and understands the importance of a viable seafood industry and the interests of the over 750,000 Queenslanders who enjoy recreational fishing.
The tired 20 year Labor Government has ignored the needs of both Queensland seafood industry and our recreational fishers.
Most fishing activity occurs in the East Coast Inshore Fin Fish Fishery, which operates up the entire Queensland east coast.
Fishery management arrangements are complex, however all stakeholders agree that a reduction in fishing pressure is an important step in improving the health of our fishery.
The LNP is committed to delivering a strong, viable, healthy and sustainable commercial fishing industry. Under the Bligh Labor Government the commercial fishing industry has struggled and many fishermen face an uncertain future.
The LNP is committed to the health and wellbeing of our fisheries and will undertake a $10 million project to create the States first and Australia's largest Recreational Fishing Haven. The project will entail the mandatory buy back of all commercial netting and crabbing licences from the inland rivers and open beachs within the area of Point Cartwright on the Sunshine Coast to the most northern tip of Fraser Island(excluding the great sandy straights). This will ensure that the seafood resources in the rivers of Mooloolaba, Maroochydore and Noosa and all the open beaches between Point Cartwright and the tip of Fraser Island will only be accessible by Recreational Anglers. Additionally the CanDo LNP government will set up a salt water stocking program to return the Mooloolaba, Maroochydore and Noosa rivers commonly targeted fish stocks back to thier former glory days. This will ensure long term sustainability of commonly targeted species like, whiting, flathead, mulloway and mangrove jack simultaneously creating a fishing Mecca in the area which will boost tourism considerably-just one pillar of our four pillar economy.
In addition, to ensure the long term sustainability of our fisheries, we will invest up to $1 million in a range of sustainability measures including enhanced monitoring of fisheries on a regional basis.
This will be just one first step in ensuring the sustainability of our resources while enhancing the already billion dollar Recreational Angling industry already in place in Queensland.
The LNP understands fishing is one of the most popular pastimes in Queensland, with an estimated 750,000 recreational fishers in this State. Fishing is very much a part of life in Queensland and with measures like these we will see an influx of fishing dollars entering the state from other parts of Australia and all over the world.
It's time for a change. With your help a strong and united LNP Government will get Queensland back on track.

LNP Policy Commitments:
$10 million dollars to establish QLD's first and Australia's largest Recreational Fishng Haven and Saltwater Restocking program.
Restore the health of Queensland's fishery

frogfuzz
21-03-2012, 01:11 PM
I have to ask..have you done any reasearch on the electorate you are voting in?

Yes Pinhead I have.

PinHead
21-03-2012, 04:17 PM
Yes Pinhead I have.

"I'll be voting KAP No1; then Shooters and Fishers, then...then... then.... then LNP, Then ALP, Then other Leftards."

what electorate is that...there are no shooters and fishers party candidates in the Qld election

frogfuzz
22-03-2012, 10:56 AM
Pinhead - my point is - I'm not putting any of the major parties "Vote 1". I'll be putting KAP #1, then anyone else who agrees with my point of view THEN LNP then Leftards.