Photograph King Tides at Your Local Boat Ramp.. Coming Soon!

[QF3 MROCP]

Just heard about the Green Cross Australia’s Witness King Tides Project launched in Queensland last month.

The project is looking for Tide Trackers to photograph king tide events in “hot spots” along the length of the Queensland coastline so that they can build a picture of sea levels over time and their future climate change threat to coastal communities.

The next king tides in Queensland are Sunday 22 January – Monday 23 January and in daylight hours. You can participate by registering at www.witnesskingtides.org (http://www.witnesskingtides.org)

[Lovey80]

Why would you participate in this? This is nothing but a ploy to get people to photograph king tides so alarmists can package the images for a fear mongering campaign on global warming. Rubbish.

[Luc]

Yep pure alarmist bullshit.

This quote from their website says it all!!

What will the Queensland coast look like in the future?

Along the Queensland coast, the summer of 2012 will bring very high spring tides, known as king tides, which are visible during daylight hours. King tides can demonstrate what our coasts might look like in the future under conditions of sea level rise due to climate change.

This summer we are encouraging Queenslanders to head out to the coast during the king tide to capture the event and help create a photographic database. Having this visual collection of images could help us be better prepared for a future where sea levels are higher than what they are today. If we can envisage future change, we can plan and prepare for it now.

This summer, the Queensland coast will experience king tides from 19 - 22 January 2012. To avoid confusion, it's important to know that king tides aren't part of climate change; they are a natural part of tidal cycles but they do give us a sneak preview of what higher sea levels could look like.

[Chas & Clarry]

Came in a bit before the high at Deep Water Bend this morning...only a couple inches of the rock wall on the downriver edge of the ramp was showing

[wirlybird]

I do my part and drink 2 lt of water a day to counteract the rising sea levels its worked so far ;)

[cgibbo308]

yeah the use of "hot spots" is not a good sign. if they wanted accurate data they would do it from all over the coast line. oh but wait. has anyone found a green group that wants accurate data?

[Feral]

Not in a blue fit would I help that lot.
Not even the bigest set of tides for the year the idiots!. Good 4 inches below biggest tides of the year. (But then I suppose their cameras dont work at night!)

This big one back in 2010 I have photo's of the local boat ramp etc, pretty spectacular, this is the ones these idiots should have been chasing. (And no I'm not sending them to the greenies!)

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[deckie]

Yeah dont give the scab alarmists the time of day. They're just scam artists hoping to prey on misinformation.
As an earth scientist i can honestly tell you 95% of what you hear is absolute bullshit...and its a growing industry in bullshit.
For instance...a certain island in the Pacific is apparantly suffering from a rise in sea levels, what they dont say is that the island sits on a part of the tectonic plate that is sinking. Funny how they want money.
There is an entirely new business springing up where thousands are drawing a living with bias science being exaggerated then palmed off as some sort of evidence. If it was arriving by email you'd swear it was a scam.
The news is now weather mad..coz it rates. Last summer i counted the first 14 mins of the ABC news was about weather...a snow storm shut down heathrow and other europe airports..GOSH !! in WINTER ??, then there was footage of a blizzard in minnesota, in the middle of winter ?? No way ! ..then backed up with Perth having 4 days over 30deg HEATWAVE !!! in summer !! ..WTF is happening to the weather is the implication from all this normal shit. 14 mins of what should be NEWS devoted to normal weather events around the world.
The commercial channels are far worse bandwagonners tho...i should keep a log of the weather "records" channel 9 Syd come up with almost every single night.
Last night they called it "unseasonal" rains in Sydney...was just a bit of a wet day, nothing unusual about it. Lucky if more than an inch or two in 24hrs. However did you know that in a town in the central west NSW it was "the wettest January day for 3 years" !!! WTF is happening to the weather !!!
Its gone so far that its now an industry, an industry full of scavengers now hopping onboard a fear campaign that generates cash flow....apparantly we need a millenium bug every now and then to dumb us down.

[cehart]

Snake oil salesmen, doesn't matter what hobby you get into the anti's are there.

[Mrs Ronnie H]

This summer, the Queensland coast will experience king tides from 19 - 22 January 2012. To avoid confusion, it's important to know that king tides aren't part of climate change; they are a natural part of tidal cycles but they do give us a sneak preview of what higher sea levels could look like.

"COULD" is the operative word in this statement. Bet if this data is collected and the story is written up the word will change to "WILL".

It could look like this but this is what it will be if we don't do something about it.
Climate change-- what climate change?????

I am over these greeny groups.

Ronnie

[Whitey81]

Hi all,

I own a beach front block at Armstrong Beach near Sarina. Talking to the council and the implementation of the "queensland Coastal Plan" if you own any land near the beach especially beachfront or low lying land you might want to build something on it before you cant. On hearing about the plan I very quickly got my plans together before the "statutory" rulings came into place, At the moment they are only looking at new developments etc but how long will that last. What do we really think they are using this information for?????

Have a look who it is sponsored by, the government who are already changing legislation on what could happen, dont help them, a lot of people's dreams and cash will go down the drain.

[cgibbo308]

good work deckie. :)
the thing is, and has been said b4. that with the carbon tax (bs) that we will get back only 95% or so from what we will pay. the rest will be going os to other countries to help spread out the wealth.
climates change, so do tides, sea levels and weather pattens, why? cos its all cyclic. things change. the money driven green groups (opposed to the original green groups) dont like fact and will bully and fight anyone that uses facts to dispell whats being sprouted by them.
on the bright side.. if the sea levels rise by 1 meter..
1) we dont have to back down the ramp so far to launch boats
2) some bigger fish may come in closer to shore as its deeper :)
3) i will live one meter closer to the water... OH NO I WONT, cos nothing will flood at 1 meter :)
4) fish habitats will INCREASE providing more food and shelter hence giving us bigger fish to catch :)

[deckie]

cgibbo...there are aspects of so called "climate change" that are real enough...but it is now feeding off itself having gone from mere science advisory to a full blown industry anyone can potentially hop onboard. Unfortunately you can comfortably get funding if your intention is "effect of climate change on king tide and sea level along eastern seaboard", but will struggle for a drink at the well if you truly wish to do good unbiased and totally objective science and summarise king tides without agenda and no "implications". As time passes there is less and less true science being conducted. Therin lies the merrygoround. There's far more money in it than people realise.
There are aspects of it that shit me to tears...the last time we saw this much concerted effort at "your stupid if you dont believe" was the millenium bug. In 1999 all sorts of quick buck industries sprang up..including the inevitable spin off education to ensure it legitimises itself..afterall if you can do a degree in it then it must be a real and present danger yeah ? They even teach what is effectively a political agenda in schools to our kids now. What do you think young minds learn ?...anything unbiased ? It is now so well and truly self fulfilling that you arnt even qualified to talk about it unless you've done some sort of "course" in climate change..i.e. indoctrinated. The millenium bug all over again but on a grand scale this time.

The media is so onboard you cant even get a clear picture what is real. The QLD floods last yr for instance...the Brissy river is notorious for big floods, and this one didnt even make the levels of 1975ish...but the media just couldnt wait for a 'record' almost willing it on during the 6pm news. Imagine the stupidity of building on flood prone land ?...would you ?..guess what, they're going to do it all over again. When a quake hits Japan they dont just build shacks over the faultline again do they ?..we would..then pretend its some sort of climate change issue or "record"..we'll happily spend $5-10 billion rebuilding the same thing and hope nature is so regimented it can only happen every 35 yrs. When the river was dropping the allocated media resources headed en masse straight to the Clarence hoping for another disaster but didnt get it..but they went looking and interviewed newbies to the region who effectively bought cheap swampland, and got their "journalism" so we can all be well informed of facts...WTF !!..the weather has gone mad !!!
Whilst there were tragic consequences, if you are unbiased it seems there's hardly anything unusual about that recent qld flood...unless of course u think 30 yrs is a long time, its a SHORT TIME. The next event could be in just 8 yrs and far worse, but still totally "normal" if we could remember back over 500yrs....we of course cannot cope with that notion though and need to think of it as some sort of once in a century catastrophy so we can deal with it. Who knows...Brissy river might be flooding less and less as time goes by but noone wants to hear that.
We are coming off a very cold non ice age cycle...you go back 150-200 yrs and any snowstorms in the nthn hemisphere today look like frosts by comparison..but no formal records exist. Most informal records made by armed forces. As we warm up fractionally from a v low base we should expect to see certain changes, but there is still no absolute evidence man has altered what seems like a natural cycle you cant do anything about...why would you want to anyway ? Being an industry though..we now go looking for evidence anywhere we can make it.

Nearly 20 yrs ago i caught a 3kg spotted mackeral in Cowan Creek Sydney,, was hanging with a school of bonito near the mouth of Jeruselum Bay. Last place you'd imagine normally. Every now and then they come right down in the summer warm currents following bait...but now when the odd one is caught its apparently a sign of climate change.

Its the new gullible generation ...never been thru any hardships, recessions, wars. They all want to be marine ecologists specialising in anything that says mankind is a bastard. They absorb garbage like a sponge and recite it back to you like parrots.

[mikeaus]

Why would you participate in this? This is nothing but a ploy to get people to photograph king tides so alarmists can package the images for a fear mongering campaign on global warming. Rubbish.

Climate change is happening, there is NO doubt. There is not one scientist on the planet that disagrees with this.

Whether we are causing, or contributing to it is the debate.

[deckie]

Climate change is happening, there is NO doubt. There is not one scientist on the planet that disagrees with this.

Whether we are causing, or contributing to it is the debate.
There is climate change every day, every year, every decade, every millenium....thats all anyone knows as fact.
It is the concerted effort to mask or pass off any weather events, no matter how normal as some sort of mankind bastardry that i'm sick to death of.
When science becomes embroiled with politics science is always the loser.

[mikeaus]

Its the new gullible generation ...never been thru any hardships, recessions, wars. They all want to be marine ecologists specialising in anything that says mankind is a bastard. They absorb garbage like a sponge and recite it back to you like parrots.

I have to say here that most of the comments here so far have been anti environmental. For people who spend time in our beautiful rivers and oceans I find this very strange.

Whether or not we believe that climate change is a result of the human footprint is up to ourselves. Personally, I think we contribute, but are not responsible. However, we consume way to much and most of use are very selfish and greedy.

As for the above quote, well most of the population are sucked in by what they see on TV, not just generation Y. Even the news these days are littered with ads. For example, is it really news that David Jones is having its January Sale?

Most people are gullible. The biggest one is getting a half a million mortgage and thinking its the Australian dream. Half a million in debt for 30 years a dream? Yep.

This is how a government regulates the population. Thats why most people work a job they hate because they can't leave as a result of their mortgage. The government has a firm foot on the back of your neck in the form of interest rates.

We live in world were its every man for himself. Everyone votes for what suits them, not what best for the future. Thats why these idiot politicians offer petty privileges to get votes. "Vote for me a I will build a 3 lane highway to the city to get you to work quicker". Not what can I do for the country going forward.

My rant for the day done.:)

[bennykenny]

I have to say here that most of the comments here so far have been anti environmental. For people who spend time in our beautiful rivers and oceans I find this very strange.

What a load of BS, most of the comments have been about the green groups mis using information gathered for their own groups personal gain, most of us fishermen are not anti environmental, we are just anti green group BS.
youve just given us a prime example of how our info is mis used in your posts Mike.Thanks.

[deckie]

I've sat having a beer in the Todd Tavern Alice Springs...looking at photo's on the wall of the Finke river up to the bridge height 40 yrs ago...but if it happens again this summer you can guarantee one thing, the media will descend upon further evidence of catastrophic "climate change", with an implication it is somehow recent thing, and caused by man.
Take a look at the QLD coast these days...its like one big urban sprawl from the NSW border to Cairns...used to be a bad cyclone might effect a few hundred in an isolated area, and the odd one a built up small city, it might decimate some sugar cane or nana's and blow the roof off a bunch of poor bugga's and destroy their lives. But now it will always effect 20,000 plus their marina...has the chance of a "catastrophy" as they call it increased ? Been chased back to Shute Hbr due to a cyclone warning, it hit nth of Bowen and hardly made the news...was bad though. I remember seasons with multiple bad cyclones hitting the QLD coast..why is it now even one is one too many and some sort of bizzarre thing ? Do people really need to be force fed an impression something weird is happening ?..."the highest February rainfall in Tully for 11 years"...so f'king what..meaningless. People just swallow this shit like its some sort of climate change evidence, when its simply sensationalist bullshit giving them false impressions. I've sat on a semi submersible rig in Bass Strait riding out 50ft waves in an epic storm that trashed Sale and Longford helipdad...noone ever tried to create a "record" out of it though, or tried to bullshit the public with subjective trash hoping the young and/or gullible think that its all part of some sort of mankind induced out of control global warming. My old man grew up in the mallee and remembers "dustbowls" as he calls them...droughts that created ghost towns and people became nomadic....then fierce floods that wiped out entire towns. These days its meant to be unusual and need to have "worst drought in living memory", or they'll target a town thats hardest hit and do all the reporting from there, screw the rest if it isnt as bad.
With all the rivers along the east coast it would be a rare season where a bad flood DIDNT happen...yet now its always a bloody catastrophic event flogged to death, leading the gullible into thinking something unusual is happening. Place millions of people and urban sprawl onto a river that floods like a bitch and what do yu expect ?..especially when you rebuild over what is actually flood plain. Instead of blaming the weather and bitching about insurance companies, how about blaming those truly responsible. I wouldnt blame the insurance companies one bit if they refuse to insure any structure rebuilt in any area of brissy effected by last yrs floods..who the hell would be stupid enough to rebuild on a flood plain that just flooded and does so regularly and much worse.

Have a look at the qld town of StGeorge on a map. Check out the convergence of all the creeks/rivers and tell me you dont think its normal to flood ? In Sydney the news tried to tell this was unprecedented...it wasnt. I've parked the truck along a seismic line that went through a small gorge about 350km west of Alice, got out and looked up the better part of 50feet to the obvious water level that didnt look more than maybe 50-500 yrs old. These days you'd easily see that type of event on a satellite image it'd be so massive...climate change will be the answer.
Our entire coastline and interior has been naturally and regularly shaped by catastrophic events you can actually see if u know what to look for...its how nature works and it is a frequent thing we know that. One storm does the work of 5 yrs of erosion, one tsunami transforms entire maps, a flood changes 100km of water course.
Start off by looking for evidence of king tides getting worse and you'll always find it if u want it bad enough. That aint science, its creating evidence to suit a pre-ordained agenda.

[mikeaus]

What a load of BS, most of the comments have been about the green groups mis using information gathered for their own groups personal gain, most of us fishermen are not anti environmental, we are just anti green group BS.
youve just given us a prime example of how our info is mis used in your posts Mike.Thanks.

Well i disagree. I think most will turn a blind eye so long as it does not interrupt what they like to do.

[bennykenny]

Well i disagree. I think most will turn a blind eye so long as it does not interrupt what they like to do.

i dont understand with what you disagree with, you said most of the comments were anti environmental, but im not sure if i see any comments that are anti environmental, they are generally talking about how information is mis used by the green groups to alarm people.

[pipifin]

I do my part and drink 2 lt of water a day to counteract the rising sea levels its worked so far ;)

heh heh..... we should also quit recycling, if these "groups" are to be believed, the more that goes into landfill the better.... it will be the only thing keeping our toes above water.

I do get a kick out of hearing "the coldest since....." or "the wettest since....". I'll start believing the hype when we get three or four "since ever" in a row.

[PinHead]

I have to say here that most of the comments here so far have been anti environmental. For people who spend time in our beautiful rivers and oceans I find this very strange. crap

Whether or not we believe that climate change is a result of the human footprint is up to ourselves. Personally, I think we contribute, but are not responsible. However, we consume way to much and most of use are very selfish and greedy. in what way ???

As for the above quote, well most of the population are sucked in by what they see on TV, not just generation Y. Even the news these days are littered with ads. For example, is it really news that David Jones is having its January Sale? without David Jones advertising their January sale you would not have TV stations to watch

Most people are gullible. The biggest one is getting a half a million mortgage and thinking its the Australian dream. Half a million in debt for 30 years a dream? Yep. what is wrong with that if you can service the loan?

This is how a government regulates the population. Thats why most people work a job they hate because they can't leave as a result of their mortgage. The government has a firm foot on the back of your neck in the form of interest rates. only those that want to be regulated. I work 60 or 70 hours a weeks and enjoy it

We live in world were its every man for himself. Everyone votes for what suits them, not what best for the future. Thats why these idiot politicians offer petty privileges to get votes. "Vote for me a I will build a 3 lane highway to the city to get you to work quicker". Not what can I do for the country going forward. sorry..next time, should I vote for what Bob Brown thinks is best? Not going to happen

My rant for the day done.:)

I have this feeling you are the gullible one and have been sucked in by the tree huggers.

[PinHead]

I've sat having a beer in the Todd Tavern Alice Springs...looking at photo's on the wall of the Finke river up to the bridge height 40 yrs ago...but if it happens again this summer you can guarantee one thing, the media will descend upon further evidence of catastrophic "climate change", with an implication it is somehow recent thing, and caused by man.
Take a look at the QLD coast these days...its like one big urban sprawl from the NSW border to Cairns...used to be a bad cyclone might effect a few hundred in an isolated area, and the odd one a built up small city, it might decimate some sugar cane or nana's and blow the roof off a bunch of poor bugga's and destroy their lives. But now it will always effect 20,000 plus their marina...has the chance of a "catastrophy" as they call it increased ? Been chased back to Shute Hbr due to a cyclone warning, it hit nth of Bowen and hardly made the news...was bad though. I remember seasons with multiple bad cyclones hitting the QLD coast..why is it now even one is one too many and some sort of bizzarre thing ? Do people really need to be force fed an impression something weird is happening ?..."the highest February rainfall in Tully for 11 years"...so f'king what..meaningless. People just swallow this shit like its some sort of climate change evidence, when its simply sensationalist bullshit giving them false impressions. I've sat on a semi submersible rig in Bass Strait riding out 50ft waves in an epic storm that trashed Sale and Longford helipdad...noone ever tried to create a "record" out of it though, or tried to bullshit the public with subjective trash hoping the young and/or gullible think that its all part of some sort of mankind induced out of control global warming. My old man grew up in the mallee and remembers "dustbowls" as he calls them...droughts that created ghost towns and people became nomadic....then fierce floods that wiped out entire towns. These days its meant to be unusual and need to have "worst drought in living memory", or they'll target a town thats hardest hit and do all the reporting from there, screw the rest if it isnt as bad.
With all the rivers along the east coast it would be a rare season where a bad flood DIDNT happen...yet now its always a bloody catastrophic event flogged to death, leading the gullible into thinking something unusual is happening. Place millions of people and urban sprawl onto a river that floods like a bitch and what do yu expect ?..especially when you rebuild over what is actually flood plain. Instead of blaming the weather and bitching about insurance companies, how about blaming those truly responsible. I wouldnt blame the insurance companies one bit if they refuse to insure any structure rebuilt in any area of brissy effected by last yrs floods..who the hell would be stupid enough to rebuild on a flood plain that just flooded and does so regularly and much worse.

Have a look at the qld town of StGeorge on a map. Check out the convergence of all the creeks/rivers and tell me you dont think its normal to flood ? In Sydney the news tried to tell this was unprecedented...it wasnt. I've parked the truck along a seismic line that went through a small gorge about 350km west of Alice, got out and looked up the better part of 50feet to the obvious water level that didnt look more than maybe 50-500 yrs old. These days you'd easily see that type of event on a satellite image it'd be so massive...climate change will be the answer.
Our entire coastline and interior has been naturally and regularly shaped by catastrophic events you can actually see if u know what to look for...its how nature works and it is a frequent thing we know that. One storm does the work of 5 yrs of erosion, one tsunami transforms entire maps, a flood changes 100km of water course.
Start off by looking for evidence of king tides getting worse and you'll always find it if u want it bad enough. That aint science, its creating evidence to suit a pre-ordained agenda.


so true..this place is so old..many huge fault lines in evidence..drive from Charleville to Quilpie..you merrily trip along on some downs country and then all of a sudden the road disappears from under you. First time i went there I backed up the hill and took some pics..absolutely gorgeous country. Obviously one very old huge fracture i nthe ground.

[mikeaus]

I have this feeling you are the gullible one and have been sucked in by the tree huggers.

Thats ok, your entitled to your opinion. I take it your living the Australian dream then...

To answer some of your comments.

If you don't think people are greedy, start by taking a look at the average waistline these days for a start.

Does David Jones Run the TV networks now?

Most people can't service their loan. Thats why many bang their drum when interest rates go up.

I am glad you enjoy your work that you work 70 hours per week.

Who cares what Bob Brown thinks?

Pinhead, why have you taken my opinion as a personal attack on you?

[mikeaus]

I have this feeling you are the gullible one and have been sucked in by the tree huggers.

Is there any particular reason you are called Pinhead?

[PinHead]

Thats ok, your entitled to your opinion. I take it your living the Australian dream then...

To answer some of your comments.

If you don't think people are greedy, start by taking a look at the average waistline these days for a start.

Does David Jones Run the TV networks now?

Most people can't service their loan. Thats why many bang their drum when interest rates go up.

I am glad you enjoy your work that you work 70 hours per week.

Who cares what Bob Brown thinks?

Pinhead, why have you taken my opinion as a personal attack on you?

no personal attack on me..nothing wrong with my waistline.greed is good..last night dinner with good friends..prawns and mussels..some squid..salad..wine..etc etc

Saturday night..dinner with good friends at a restaurant..good food and wine..gotta love it.

David Jones and all the other advertisers pay to keep the TV networks in business..called sharing the love..keeping the money moving round.

What I do object to is people espousing all the unsubstantiated green values..scare monegring based on nothing...that will be the demise ..as Gordon Gecko said..greed is good..keeps the economy ticking over.

[PinHead]

Is there any particular reason you are called Pinhead?

yes there is.

[mikeaus]

no personal attack on me..nothing wrong with my waistline.greed is good..last night dinner with good friends..prawns and mussels..some squid..salad..wine..etc etc

Why are you telling me this? Am I supposed to be impressed?

Saturday night..dinner with good friends at a restaurant..good food and wine..gotta love it.

David Jones and all the other advertisers pay to keep the TV networks in business..called sharing the love..keeping the money moving round.

Why would I care if TV ended tomorrow? Would I miss out on stuff?

What I do object to is people espousing all the unsubstantiated green values..scare monegring based on nothing...that will be the demise ..as Gordon Gecko said..greed is good..keeps the economy ticking over.

I get the impression you think I am a hippy.

[mikeaus]

no personal attack on me..nothing wrong with my waistline.greed is good..last night dinner with good friends..prawns and mussels..some squid..salad..wine..etc etc

Saturday night..dinner with good friends at a restaurant..good food and wine..gotta love it.

David Jones and all the other advertisers pay to keep the TV networks in business..called sharing the love..keeping the money moving round.

What I do object to is people espousing all the unsubstantiated green values..scare monegring based on nothing...that will be the demise ..as Gordon Gecko said..greed is good..keeps the economy ticking over.

I realise now why you are upset. I just read your comments on the Carbon tax thread.

You stated that you will no longer be voting LNP because they will not upgrade your road. lol... Love it.

There may be hope for you yet. There is a new party on the block. Its call the "Get pissed every weekend, put a bet on and watch the football party" May be right up your street.

[PinHead]

I realise now why you are upset. I just read your comments on the Carbon tax thread.

You stated that you will no longer be voting LNP because they will not upgrade your road. lol... Love it.

There may be hope for you yet. There is a new party on the block. Its call the "Get pissed every weekend, put a bet on and watch the football party" May be right up your street.

I created that Party..but we don't allow greenies or pseudo greenies to join. BUT..you did get it wrong..it is get pissed very night...what's wrong with having a bet and watching the footie?

It also has some other rules such as when you go fishing don't leave any rubbish behind..be mindful of others using the waterways..respect everyones right to enjoy what we have..and most importantly..don't listn to what the greenies have to say as they rarely get out oftheir castles to even know what is going on in reality.

Oh..I am not upset..you would know it about if I am.

Oh geeze..the carbon tax..can any more be said about that theft from the populace.

Not my road..but a road to increase traffic flow for all...unless you propose we go back to horse and buggy.

[Homer_Jay]

I realise now why you are upset. I just read your comments on the Carbon tax thread.

You stated that you will no longer be voting LNP because they will not upgrade your road. lol... Love it.

There may be hope for you yet. There is a new party on the block. Its call the "Get pissed every weekend, put a bet on and watch the football party" May be right up your street.


Hey.... perfect! Where do I join this party?? But we need to bring some fishing/boating activities into it though! The sad part is mate, it would get more votes than all Bob Browns crew put together!

I have a theory about people that want to push their opinions onto everyone else, they are usually not happy with thier own life and are NOT convinced of their own decisions. They want everyone else in the room to agree with them, then they think they may have made the right choice afterall.
Classic case here I think.

[Vitamin Sea]

We are there, where do I sign up?

Gees there are some heads on here now................................

Cheers

Bill

PS: G'day Aaron

[Mister]

Arh what are these people trying to prove? Maybe trying to convince themselves globing warming exists :) Back in my day tides were actually bigger than they are now but hey the wet behind the ear gullible types think global warming is real, something new, something to scare monger about. Guess what the tide is going to come in and go out tomorrow as well and when it stops coming in and going out then start to worry, until then get over it.

[Axl]

Arh what are these people trying to prove? Maybe trying to convince themselves globing warming exists :) Back in my day tides were actually bigger than they are now but hey the wet behind the ear gullible types think global warming is real, something new, something to scare monger about. Guess what the tide is going to come in and go out tomorrow as well and when it stops coming in and going out then start to worry, until then get over it.


Yep I must agree Mister 30 years ago my perants owned the Beach Shop (southern end of the wadding pool at Wynnum currently vacant) when the king tides came we would all be out in front of the shop with brooms and sand bags to try and hold back the tide.

[Homer_Jay]

We are there, where do I sign up?

Gees there are some heads on here now................................

Cheers

Bill

PS: G'day Aaron

G'Day Bill,
Love the new boat! Very Jealous!

[Mister]

Yep the global warming alarmists keep banging their drums, melting polar caps, rising water levels, the coast line is going under, the end is near and yet the ###### Australis is trapped in ice trying to get to Mawsons hut, global warming? yeah right.

###### = A U R O R A now what a silly silly auto edit

[mikeaus]

I created that Party..but we don't allow greenies or pseudo greenies to join. BUT..you did get it wrong..it is get pissed very night...what's wrong with having a bet and watching the footie?

It also has some other rules such as when you go fishing don't leave any rubbish behind..be mindful of others using the waterways..respect everyones right to enjoy what we have..and most importantly..don't listn to what the greenies have to say as they rarely get out oftheir castles to even know what is going on in reality.

Oh..I am not upset..you would know it about if I am.

Oh geeze..the carbon tax..can any more be said about that theft from the populace.

Not my road..but a road to increase traffic flow for all...unless you propose we go back to horse and buggy.

Mate, I think you may misunderstand me. As soon as someone mentions the environment your excused of being a hippy. Mental images are formed of long haired people wearing multi colored clothes and beating tambourines. I don't work 60/70 hours per week like you, however I don't need too. I do exceptionally well working 40.

As for getting out of my castle. I am a competitive ocean ski paddler who is on the water training twice daily. I also water ski and cruise in my boat. So I hope this has erased the hippy image from your mind.

For the record I am business owner, a capitalist. This does not mean I have think only of my bottom line, the business and vote accordingly.

I did vote green, however I have to be honest, I did not think the buggers would get the power they did. I am just tied of this two party preferred option. Especially as the two on offer proposed no change. With this hung parliament it has mad the two parties think that people are wanting change from the normal BS. There are over a million greens now and we don't all live in Nimbin.

As much as news tells us this is bad thing, well my lifestyle and business has not changed any.

As for having a bet and drink every day/weekend, nothing wrong with that mate. I used to do that too when I was in my 20s. The older I got the more I realized that I did not need to get pissed to enjoy my life. My life's a buzz without the need for drugs to enhance it.

This is my last post on this. Feel free to have the last say if you like. I apologize to the onlookers who by now must be bored with what has now turned into a personal argument.

[mikeaus]

Hey.... perfect! Where do I join this party?? But we need to bring some fishing/boating activities into it though! The sad part is mate, it would get more votes than all Bob Browns crew put together!

I have a theory about people that want to push their opinions onto everyone else, they are usually not happy with thier own life and are NOT convinced of their own decisions. They want everyone else in the room to agree with them, then they think they may have made the right choice afterall.
Classic case here I think.

Not particularly. Most people doest speak out as they are frightened to stray from the heard. The people that do are trying to make others who only believe what they see on the tv aware.

Is Julian Assange one of the people you describe? Or perhaps you do not know who he is since its the Wiggles that seem to making the headlines these days.

[mikeaus]

Arh what are these people trying to prove? Maybe trying to convince themselves globing warming exists :) Back in my day tides were actually bigger than they are now but hey the wet behind the ear gullible types think global warming is real, something new, something to scare monger about. Guess what the tide is going to come in and go out tomorrow as well and when it stops coming in and going out then start to worry, until then get over it.

Whats Global Warming and why has the name changed to Climate Change in recent times. Quick Google it.

[deckie]

I did vote green, however I have to be honest, I did not think the buggers would get the power they did. I am just tied of this two party preferred option.



** points ** ^^^^

look look ;D ...there he is !!! ;D Thats the guy !!, thats the bloke that helped make the mess.
I've never seen anyone come out of the closet and actually admit it, let alone admit they screwed up simply coz they were "tired" of the way it was.
Kudos ....but its a fishing forum so dont expect any sympathy or hugs for helping screw the country coz u were "tired" of something.

geezus...and here i was thinking it must have been all the 18-21 yo first time gullible save the whale voters that got us into this mess.

[BGG]

Axl
So true!!. I still live near there and can remember as a kid going to the movies on the Wynnum Esplanade and the king tide entering the theatre.
Brad

[deckie]

Whats Global Warming and why has the name changed to Climate Change in recent times. Quick Google it.
Which google definitions did you choose ?..and on what basis ? ...is he meant to read the sponsored links ? the gov't sactioned links ? or the ones that appear near the top coz it gets the most hits ?
Plus which "scientists" do you choose to believe and why ?

[bennykenny]

As for getting out of my castle. I am a competitive ocean ski paddler who is on the water training twice daily. I also water ski and cruise in my boat. So I hope this has erased the hippy image from your mind.

funny place for you to be then mike,i mean a fishing forum, there is plenty of ocean ski paddler, water ski and crusing boating forums out there, but you choose a"fishing"forum to blow your environmental trumpet.
just going for a bit of a "TROLL"are we. 'DNFTT'.

[mikeaus]

Calm down people.

First off all this is the boating section. The most popular section on the forum. I come here because I like some of the information. It is an open forum, right? This means people can come here for advice and debate. If you have come here for a rub down a shiatsu then perhaps its you that has come to the wrong place.

As for coming out of the closet. Well I don't keep my vote secret to avoid conflict. As I said there are over a million Green votes in Australia. Since the population is around 20 mil and many of them are not old enough to vote then you could say it not just a few hippies anymore.

I don't particularly think that the Green vote is great either. I disagree with many of their polices. Also I don't see Bob Brown driving to work in a Prius (me neither, I have a 4WD). That said change is as good as any vote, I am not going to say "I vote Liberal, my family vote liberal... Bin votin Liberal all me life".

I am not sure about the comment about the country being stuffed. Its ticking along quite well by comparison. We should consider ourselves lucky to have the mining industry or this country would be on its knees right now. Many people on this forum would not own a boat.

To label me with titles such as tree hugger and the like shows a very narrow mind. But, you are entitled to have opinion, be that a shallow one.

[Gazza]

send in flood pictures 8-)

[wirlybird]

CARBON TAX

Fight fight fight fight fight fight fight


HA HA HA

[bennykenny]

Calm down people.
If you have come here for a rub down a shiatsu then perhaps its you that has come to the wrong place.


To label me with titles such as tree hugger and the like shows a very narrow mind. But, you are entitled to have opinion, be that a shallow one.
a Shiatsu massage, sounds alright!!!
still having trouble finding your made up quotes, trying to find where and who called you a tree hugger, or is this really how you see your self or how you belive others see you.

[mikeaus]

send in flood pictures 8-)

Well said.

[Macks forever]

An interesting read, this thread is.... Hmmmm....

I believe this whole concept is a con job and a load of rubbish.

Not because I believe AGW may or may not be happening. Not because I may or may not believe there is a lot of erosion or accretion going on. Not because I believe people should or shouldn't post photos of interesting things when and where they like. etc etc etc

It is because this is simply not science. It is propaganda. And it will be used as another tool to scaremonger.

This mob is getting hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not more, in government grants and other public money. People in this "non profit" organization are getting paid pretty amounts to be CEO's etc etc. And I am sure there are specialist grants officers to keep applying for more grants to keep the organization going and keep everyone in their high paying jobs. But they will be around how long? A few years at most. And these photos will prove what? Nothing. They will simply be used to gain extra funding to support their ongoing existence. Research? Yeah right....

And this is just one example of the snouts in the trough and pointless exercises that are wasting millions every year. What are the genuine long term outcomes? Zilch.

There will be some spectacular photos for sure - there is always somewhere suffering some foul weather on a king tide.
But where is the science?

Oh, thats right. Councils and government departments already run constant programs for sealevel rise and shoreline erosion that will be comparable over decades. If it is not done over decades, and preferably centuries, it is pretty well worthless. We have all seen [well those older members of us at least] areas of our coastline come and go, go and go, and some even come and come. The short term means nothing.

But just watch for the glorifed media that will come out of these photos.
What a load of rubbish. But the politicians will fall for it anyway and throw more money.

[champion]

I don't particularly think that the Green vote is great either.So why did you vote for them ?
I disagree with many of their polices So why did you vote for them ?
. Also I don't see Bob Brown driving to work in a Prius (me neither, I have a 4WD). So it suits you not to your bit for "climate Change" That said change is as good as any vote please explain how ?
We should consider ourselves lucky to have the mining industry or this country would be on its knees right now. The mining industry inst that big....once again crap the media wants to jump on board with.

[mikeaus]

I don't particularly think that the Green vote is great either.So why did you vote for them ?
I disagree with many of their polices So why did you vote for them ?

We have to vote in this country by law. I think the system needs a shake up. Who voted for Kevin Rudd just because he was guy off Sunrise with mel and kochie.?

. Also I don't see Bob Brown driving to work in a Prius (me neither, I have a 4WD). So it suits you not to your bit for "climate Change"

I do more than my bit, just because i have a boat and require a 4WD to pull it does not mean I don't care about the world and community I live in.
I consume only what I need. Use public transport when I can. Walk. Ride a bike. Donate to good causes that don't skim the profits. I don't have a bunch of extra kids just because Peter Costello told me to so I could get a cash bonus. I don't eat meat (please don't ask where I get my protein from?) I volunteer my time to good causes. I am generally kind to most people. To name but a few.

That said change is as good as any vote please explain how ?

Well as much as people have suggested the country is stuffed with the current government my life has not changed any. Half of the population voted for current government and has now changed their mind to want another.

You don't really believe that the country would be doing any better with any other party running it do you?

We should consider ourselves lucky to have the mining industry or this country would be on its knees right now. The mining industry inst that big....once again crap the media wants to jump on board with.
I disagree, tune in to the world news once in while instead of A current Affair and you will see how poor the rest of the world is doing. Do you think Australia is just lucky?

Bloody hell, you guys fight in packs. Anyway could I also ask you some silly questions.

Who do you vote for and why?

Do you have a poster of the Holden racing Team and the Jim Beam Promo Girls on you garage, or pool room wall?

Do you often recite meaningless phrases such as "Give us a fair go, Aussie battler and Un Australian, just like Mel and Kochie?

Did you have one child for you, one for the wife and one for the country?

Do you eat meat at every meal just incase you don't get enough protein?

Do you change your football team each season to whoever is winning?

Have you every changed you football team?

Do you follow the person in front in public car parks?

Do you find yourself reciting catchphrases from tv commercials?

Do you purchase Australian flags that are made in China from Crazy Clarks and put them in your cars rear windows, because you think its patriotic?

Truly out of control. Instead of asking why I do what I do, let us know what you do and why. There is nothing wrong with my values. I try to think before I act and I get it wrong often like everyone else.We may have more in common that you actually think. Or maybe not...

[mikeaus]

http://david.farmnet.com.au/2009/03/29/sheep-dog-conspiracy/

This could be you champ.

[wirlybird]

why is the only question that should be asked.

then you will have your answer

[pipifin]

We should consider ourselves lucky to have the mining industry or this country would be on its knees right now. The mining industry inst that big....once again crap the media wants to jump on board with.

Pretty sure the mining industry IS big. On paper it would read as having between 2-3% of the nation's employment but these figures don't show the "services" employed by mining.
There aren't, in fact too many industries bigger than mining, and even less that will be bigger than mining in the next few years. Perhaps with the exception of agriculture.
I don't think "The mining boom" is a media fabrication.

Hmmm maybe this topic belongs in a different thread....... back to the action..... GO!