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andoland
17-11-2009, 08:11 PM
We are heading down to pancake creek from middle creek this Sat morning in our 4.1m tinny and camping on the beach overnight.

What is the best way to anchor the boat overnight so that it is still there in the morning and not either swamped or beached? It is high tide around midday so will be low tide overnight. Will I get away with just the one anchor up on the beach or do I need to do something different? Do I need a second anchor out the back? If so do I anchor with the bow facing seaward?

This is probably a basic question for lots of you but I realised this week that I have never had to do it before.

Thanks in advance.
Ando

Chimo
17-11-2009, 08:30 PM
Hi Ando

I use a pulley block attached to a short length of chain on the anchor and pass a long line thru the pulley; and tie the paynter (bow rope) to the joined ends of the line.

Drop the first anchor with chain, pulley and paynter attached, then motor in to shore and drop off all and your gear and then hand over hand the long line until the short line (paynter) gets to the block then tie of the end of the line to another anchor on shore (or a tree).

The line lays on the bottom away from other boats props and the paynter rises more or less straight up to the boat bow from the chain. Also the boat is free to swing in the current which places less load on the anchor etc so its safer over night etc and its away fron sticky fingers.

Cheers
Chimo

andoland
17-11-2009, 08:43 PM
Thanks Chimo. Any chance you could do me a sketch or point me to one somewhere as I think i get the concept but I don't quite follow how all the pieces are meant to join up.

Chimo
18-11-2009, 06:58 AM
Ando

1 obtain a pulley that your anchor warp will run through
2 remove your anchor warp from your anchor chain
3 obtain a dee that can secure the pulley to the end of your anchor chain so the the anchors at one end and the pulley is at the other end
4 pass the end of your anchor warp around the pulley
5 tie the ends of the anchor warp together to make an almost endless loop (except for the bowline knot that you used to join the two ends)
6 after securing one end of your bow paynter to the boat (bow) secure the other end to the 'almost endless loop" with another bowline at the knot where you joined the two ends of the anchor warp together
7 when at the spot you have chosen to camp, anchor the boat in deep enough water to keep it floating even at low tide Lay the anchor as you back towards the shore so the chain lays towards the shore.
8 now head to shore and unload your gear and crew and your spare anchor that you will eventually secure the land end of the "loop " to
9 point the bow towards the deeper water and end for end the loop until the knot( the joined two ends of the anchor warp) hits the pulley
10 tie off the end of the loop you have onshore to your spare anchor

The loop of warp should be pulled tigh enough so its laying along the bottom between the deep and the shore so its out of the way of props and eyes and the boat looks like its on a mooring

If you have a handy tree on shore use it instead of the second anchor.

The boat should move with its bow to the wind and current and if you left the bungs in, it should be happily waiting for you to retrieve it just by pulling the knot on the loop back in to shore when ever you choose to do it.

Hope this is clear enough?

Cheers
Chimo

andoland
18-11-2009, 08:43 AM
Okay, thank you Chimo. Clear as day now.

Micadogs
18-11-2009, 08:57 AM
Hi Andoland, if you have someone with you, and with a 4 metre tinny beaching it could be the best idea. It would be easy enough for two guys to drag back into the water and your guranteed it wont float away. Regards Adam.

foxx510
18-11-2009, 02:31 PM
No way we could carry our 4m tinny up the beach away from the tides. Waay too heavy.

Chimo
18-11-2009, 04:46 PM
Adam's mate who helps him carry the boat is,.....................;)

platinummarine
18-11-2009, 09:44 PM
Hi There, you could use a anchor buddy which you drop from the bow, this is attached to your normal anchor but it has a elastic rope where you can reverse your boat up to the beach and use a sandspike to secure your stern to the beach, your boat will then drift back to your anchoring point keeping your boat off the beach. When you need your boat you pull on the sandspike rope and incomes the boat, easy peasy. pm me for further info.

andoland
19-11-2009, 06:30 AM
I looked that system up on your website ############## and it looks useful.

With the stretchy rope how do you set the first anchor properly?

In any case I need something by Saturday morning so it rules this out.

Thanks for the information.

Tailortaker
19-11-2009, 06:06 PM
With my tinny i just use 2 anchors (front and rear ) making sure its just below the low tide mark an wade in/out if needed. Simple
Cheers TT

Tailortaker
19-11-2009, 06:07 PM
With my tinny i just use 2 anchors (front and rear ) making sure its just below the low tide mark an wade in/out if needed. Simple unless there's crocs
Cheers TT

andoland
25-11-2009, 07:39 PM
Well I had my trip to Pancake Ck. The anchoring method I used is basically the one outlined in this thread:

http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/showthread.php?t=149695&highlight=boat+retrieval

except that I did not use the rope and float, I just attached the pulley directly to the anchor chain. It worked great and allowed me to pull the boat in and out from the beach whenever I needed.

Cheers
Ando

Member101
25-11-2009, 08:05 PM
Have fun at pancake. Have a serious think about beaching it. When my mate and i go to keppel creek in my 4.15 tinny we just up the transducer and skulldrag it up.

then we dont have to worry about it checking all the time and if we need something its right there.

Cheers
Steve

Chimo
26-11-2009, 03:27 PM
Hi Member 101 / Steve

If you buy the anchor your talking about in the other post IMHO you would be very well advised to keep doing what you do now, and skull drag the boat up on to the dry; and find a tree to tie the boat to.

I certainly would not trust the anchor you pictured to do anything but act as a weight on a throwing line. By the way I have one, not SS tho, hanging up in the shed, I think, been so long since I saw it.

Cheers
Chimo

goanna1
04-02-2010, 09:51 PM
the crocs make you think again machusla rocks but the mud gecccos bight

goanna1
04-02-2010, 09:56 PM
Ando

1 obtain a pulley that your anchor warp will run through
2 remove your anchor warp from your anchor chain
3 obtain a dee that can secure the pulley to the end of your anchor chain so the the anchors at one end and the pulley is at the other end
4 pass the end of your anchor warp around the pulley
5 tie the ends of the anchor warp together to make an almost endless loop (except for the bowline knot that you used to join the two ends)
6 after securing one end of your bow paynter to the boat (bow) secure the other end to the 'almost endless loop" with another bowline at the knot where you joined the two ends of the anchor warp together
7 when at the spot you have chosen to camp, anchor the boat in deep enough water to keep it floating even at low tide Lay the anchor as you back towards the shore so the chain lays towards the shore.
8 now head to shore and unload your gear and crew and your spare anchor that you will eventually secure the land end of the "loop " to
9 point the bow towards the deeper water and end for end the loop until the knot( the joined two ends of the anchor warp) hits the pulley
10 tie off the end of the loop you have onshore to your spare anchor

The loop of warp should be pulled tigh enough so its laying along the bottom between the deep and the shore so its out of the way of props and eyes and the boat looks like its on a mooring

If you have a handy tree on shore use it instead of the second anchor.

The boat should move with its bow to the wind and current and if you left the bungs in, it should be happily waiting for you to retrieve it just by pulling the knot on the loop back in to shore when ever you choose to do it.

Hope this is clear enough?

Cheers
Chimo
I need a picture can you help

Stu

Chimo
05-02-2010, 06:38 AM
Stu

I dont have a picture but if i did it would probably look like a boat floating in water and you might or might not see any line / rope except the paynter depending on how hard the line was pulled towards the shore.

Can you not follow the text as above?

Cheers
Chimo