Choice Of 3 What Would You Pick?

[TunaKing2008]

Hi, Im Currently Looking At Buying One Of The Following The Main Uses Would Be Gamefishing At Bermagui Or Down Here In Victoria For Sharks So I Need Something That Can Handle Bass Straight. I Have Narrowed It Down To 3 Popular Boats.
1 - Southwind Sr655 - With A Yammie 175 2 Stroke Boat Is A 1997 Model In Good Condition Comes With Outriggers And The Works For Between 26-29k

2 - Quintrex 600 Ocean Sport 130 Yammie 2 Stroke With Reelax Bases And Poles Also With The Works For Between 33-35k

3 - Haines Signature 610 With 130 Honda 4 Stroke 137 Hours Also With Outriggers And Extras For Around 32k

Anyone With Any Ideas Please Let Me Know Or If You Think I Have Missed Any Boats That Should Also Be Included In The List Pm Me. Also Had A Look For Caribbean Reef Runners With Outboards But Cant Find Any Decent Ones Under My 35k Budget.

Thanks

[Mr__Bean]

I would look to see if they will truck this one over, it is a good time to deal at the moment.

- Darren

http://www.boatlocator.com.au/boats/13532

[TunaKing2008]

Thanks Mr Bean Pity It Didnt Have A Outboard Would Of Been Nice Had Toomany Bad Experiences With In-boards Tho

[finga]

Option 3 for this little black duck

[Chimo]

IMHO option 3 then 1 and not at all 2

Fished off Bermagui yrs ago in a 23 Berti and it gets rough etc at times so again; no way 2 ;)

Good time to buy so your sure to find something and for what you want to do the bigger and better the FRP hull the better.

Cheers
Chimo

[Mtx]

option 3 then 1.
Stay clear of 2

[backlash08]

I would go 3 then 1

[finding_time]

DONT GO WITH 2............!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!! 3 then 1 would be my choice!

ian

[brute898]

I would also go with option number 3. It sounds like a good deal and 137 hours on a 4 stroke is not very much at all. Hope you make the correct decision and goodluck.

[TunaKing2008]

all i can gather is that 2 is a load of s''t! any reason why no one rates them? anyone know the pros and cons of he southwind?

[Chimo]

Hi TK08

One word answers your question and the word is telwater ........... one could put it to you that there appears to have been lots of issues re quality durability ride etc but I cannot say more as its all heresay except for those who may have personal experience ......... and thats not me other than having a mate whos boat wet his and wifes feet as the water came up past their ankles (from the split in the bottom)

What the heck, buy one and make your comments ......or not.;)

http://www.quintrex.com.au/AboutUs/QuintrexWarranty.aspx

Ask BB50 about the south.... he owned one and apparently liked it and another AF er apparently bought it etc

Cheers
Chimo

[Roughasguts]

You know Signatures aren't that great! keep looking around unless your heart is set on one.

[FNQCairns]

1 then 3, IMO the hull makes the boat and although i have never been in no 1 I assume they are not variable deadrise.

cheers fnq

[ashleyhj74]

I'd personally go number 1, then 3 (and like the trend, steer clear of 2). A 130hp Honda on a 6mtr boat wont be overly startling in my opinion. The Southwinds are a great boat, we used to sell them at work before Yamaha stopped makein them. The 175hp 2-strokes are a good motor. I've gotta 200hp Yam on my Spearfish 21 and its great, uses around 38ltrs a hour at 4000rpm fast-cruise, which (for a carby 2-stroke) i'm pretty happy with. Back it off to 3500rpm and it uses less of course. Uses bugger-all oil and maintenence is cheap.

[Wahoo]

yes im with the post above for the same reasons


Daz

[finding_time]

The reasons i picked 3 are .... the sig is a great hull and imho better than the southwind!.... you stated you were going to be game fishing for tuna, i guessing trolling at 9 knots will be the order of the day right? Well the 130 honda will be fine for this , and whilst it will be no race car it will have plenty for what you want! There wont be very many days in the year when you'll be able to open it right up on that stretch of ocean!!!! The 175 2 banger will just eat fuel at 9 knots trolling and will stink to high heaven, forget it!!! Also most know that 4 strokes raise far more fish than 2's Your buying a fishing boat not a ski boat the 130 will be fine!


Ian

[Reel Blue]

The southwind hull is a beauty and is the pick of the boats by far for me. There used to be a Mag called Bay Watch Fishing and I remember an article by John Pelermo on the Southwind after using it in rough conditions off Waddy Point Fraser Island. He rated it highly. Personally I've owned a 600F and been in a Southwind. I believe that the Southwind rides comparably to my HH 650. I haven't been in a 610 Sig. A four stroke is attractive, but not so much a heavy Honda 130 on a 6 metre boat. It will be economical but sedate. See if you can ride in the Southwind and Haines and make up your own mind. There is a lot to consider and probably pro's and con's with both in a range of areas. If I ever go aluminium again it will only be plate for offshore.

Just check the cockpit size in the southwind. I think the model I'm talking about may have been 'SF' with a bigger cockpit.

[Wahoo]

6.10m glass boat, 4 guys, eskies, all the other gear, would the 130hp get this thin up on the plane? i think you will kill that motor quick smart

[finding_time]

gee, 6.55m glass boat, 4 guys, eskies, all the other gear, would the 130hp get this thin up on the plane? i think you will kill that motor quick smart


Yes Wahoo , we all know your a rev head!!!;) Differant situation down there mate , distances are less than what we bare used to , the oceans generally rougher ( cant run a boat quickly ) and trolling with a 2 stroke ..... f... that!!!!:o

Been in very similar boats that were similarly powered, yep there no race cars but work fine, as i've said a million times on this forum, HP is over rated!!! How many times can you do over 20 knots on the ocean! And please dont give me that crap about hull shot and bars!!! If you need hull shot for a bar you shouldn't be there!!!!


Ian

[Wahoo]

Yes Wahoo , we all know your a rev head!!!;) Differant situation down there mate , distances are less than what we bare used to , the oceans generally rougher ( cant run a boat quickly ) and trolling with a 2 stroke ..... f... that!!!!:o

Been in very similar boats that were similarly powered, yep there no race cars but work fine, as i've said a million times on this forum, HP is over rated!!! How many times can you do over 20 knots on the ocean! And please dont give me that crap about hull shot and bars!!! If you need hull shot for a bar you shouldn't be there!!!!


Ian

me rev head............nah, up this way, i think i have only sat on 20knts twice;D ;D , and the only bar here is if you want a beer or vodka 8-)

[poundalead]

Mate had a Southwind with a 175 Yammie the thing flew. Great boat for the price I look at them on boatpoint all the time. I would hang off for a bit and see if one comes up with a 4-stroke, they are around, and with the way finance is going ATM they are only gonna get cheaper with time.

Cheers Benny

[TunaKing2008]

The southwind hull is a beauty and is the pick of the boats by far for me. There used to be a Mag called Bay Watch Fishing and I remember an article by John Pelermo on the Southwind after using it in rough conditions off Waddy Point Fraser Island. He rated it highly. Personally I've owned a 600F and been in a Southwind. I believe that the Southwind rides comparably to my HH 650. I haven't been in a 610 Sig. A four stroke is attractive, but not so much a heavy Honda 130 on a 6 metre boat. It will be economical but sedate. See if you can ride in the Southwind and Haines and make up your own mind. There is a lot to consider and probably pro's and con's with both in a range of areas. If I ever go aluminium again it will only be plate for offshore.

Just check the cockpit size in the southwind. I think the model I'm talking about may have been 'SF' with a bigger cockpit.


the boat is the sf 655 model

[Richard Reid]

what happened to the jenks?

[TunaKing2008]

The Jenks is a work in progress between the transport company and previous owner they had managed to make the restoration a big job. transport company have put 3 holes in the boat which now have been fixed professionally at the cost of big bucks boat needs to be re-sprayed still and the inside / wiring re-done. still alot of work to do and not enough time. it will give me something to do over the winter boat is now at least in a sea worthy condition. best guess is 4k to have it back to its former glory but the marlin and sharks are here now

[gofishin]

A choice of apples or an orange! Seems a strange combination to put together, but it sounds like maybe it is a quick decision stop-gap boat for a season, then a quick sale?

If so, which one will be the most likely to return the least loss at the time you intend to sell it? Is this worth more to you than a choice that will most likely better suit your needs and usage area in the short term? Will the term lengthen?

A boat choice is normally compromise at the best of times, but with the orange in there TK08 I guess you have a good handle on compromises associated with oranges.
Enough with all that fruit talk hey ;) .

Not 2, but not for the reasons everyone has hinted at. Probably 1 - for the reasons Ian mentioned, but then I have no exp with either 1 or 3. Find another apple to make it more interesting ;D , or 2 more oranges to really stir up the nest.
cheers

[Tassie JR]

Well i would have to say the southwind would be the best hull imho, followed by the haines, but deffintly stay away from the quinny, go the haines mainly because its got the 4 stroke.

cheers tassie JR

[Braddles]

I think the Southwind is a nice looking, better performing hull, and easier to anchor (massive folding access hutch) and slightly better fit and finished. I have also read the palumo article and it might be worth you doing a search and reading it. This would be my first pick for me, but since you said you do lots of tolling - a lot of trolling with a 2stroke motor makes me sick from the fumes. That would be the downside.

Option 3 - A proven hull also, maybe slightly better at resale time. Given the rigs age, I would assume it has far less hours on it too. It is on the min side of powerment (I know you dont want a race boat - but an engine having to work hard all the time to push that weight wont last the distance I feel).

Stay away from Option 2 - I would never touch that brand again. I have NO experience with it - but do a few searches here on Ausfish, and see the threads with countless probles and the disgusting level of unethical service when things go wrong.

Good luck and let us know how you go.

[TunaKing2008]

thanks guys for all your help at this stage i have my heart set on the southwind even tho it is a slightly older boat the extra power and setup appeals to me not to mention its about 7k cheaper. more question tho regarding option 2 that everyone is dead against is it just the brand? are stacer better (669 walkaround) and whats the diffreence between them and plate boats and are plate alot better?

[1lastcast]

3 but maybe look at getting a 150 or perhaps even a 175 4 stroke when you can afford it .
the quintrex has a reputation as being a back breaker personaly i have never been in one but i have owned tinnies and plate tinnies and plate is a lot better IMO where you plan on fishing you would get hammered in a tinnie and glass would be your best choice .

[TunaKing2008]

Thanks guys for all your help I have bught and paid for the suthwind sf655 and pick it up next week. glad i ask the question on here cos i would of ended up with option 2 the one everyone has told me to steer clear of. Went with the southwind because of its reputation also that it is very good condition and engine has just over 100 hours on it. thanks again to all those that helped out i will post some pics when i get it

[ozbee]

just make sure its propped right and the motor has reasonable cubic capacity so with the right prop it will have grunt from start to go

[TunaKing2008]

thanks for the heads up, guys i bought it from used it for gamefishing off sydney so im hoping its pretty much turn key wont have to adjust much to it

[Chamelion]

What I wouldn't give for a Southwind...

[TunaKing2008]

ha ha exactly thats what i found myself sayingtheres plenty of good ones on the market at the moment