ebay beware again - Premium Fishing Auctions

[Braddles]

Just a word of warning... and before you all say "sucker" - I have to agree by the old saying "if it seems to good to be true - it probably is"

I have purchased a few fishing rods from Premium fishing Auctions... Some rods they claim to be on par with Sabre blanks from USA - and I am no expert but they appear decent quality... while some rods are just cheap and nasty... but at 30 bucks for a 2 peice hollow fibreglass surf rod - if it craps itself - I shall just throw it away..

Now - reels - well DONT GO THERE>

First one - an imitation TLD25 (called PLD 25). It comes with the washer screwed so hard down, that the drag had flat spots in it - so it was either full on, or full off

An eggbeater style reel - meant to have 9 ball bearings and be the ducks nuts, - well my hand rotary beater has more precision and balance. Cranking the handle past 2 o'clock sees you nearly break your wrist with a jerk lol..

I emailed them via ebay - and told that all their reels are expertly inspected prior to dispatch.

I advised that their "expert" didnt detect a washer being screwed down so hard I had to use a ratchet device to undo it, and the above story about the spinning reel.

Their next email was "Send it to us and if we deem it faulty - we will replace it, however we expect it was damage in the post - postage cost is up to you"

Nothing like a quality product and after sales service.

My fault though for not forking out the dollars and supporting the local boys I guess. Bloody e!bay...

[spears]

Nah its not e_bay to blame as you had a choice to buy or not… from a seller.You thought i might do alright..but lost out.
Your not the only one who has gotten caught out by cheap stuff.

I bought some reels and rods and ended up giving them away without ever trying to fish with them.

The only bargains you’ll pick up is brand names at the right price..
With good seller feed back and full manufacturers warranty.

E_bay was good with variety upto a year ago buts its been going down hill with some really cheap stuff.

If any one is looking for a good spinning reel fairly smooth and cheap buy a eurostar event..not bad for a cheapie..E_Bay-wholesale fishing supplies..Its a silstar reel..one deep and shallow alloy spool..big drag washers.....size 2000,3000,4000,5000..

[TuffTackle]

If you're after a bargain at a low price, most ebay fishing gear is sold to beginners, that don't want to spend much to find out if they even like fishing.

My advice with anything on ebay, is check the warranty / return terms and conditions first.

Most sellers offer a 30 day return policy, and if you read the conditions they make it almost impossible to return it, if you don't like it, or it is faulty.

If it is a brand name and they are offering a factory warranty, but their history is not very old, chances of getting customer service backup later on is also doubtful, unless they are openly advertising they are a local retailer, with a retail address just moving out old stock.

If it's brand name and they offer the factory warranty, and they do not have a retail store, chances are it's an illegal import, so the distributors warranty will not be in the box, it will be USA or EUROPE or ASIAN warranty, not valid in AUSTRALIA, without the local distributors authority, such as Dumphy sports Australia for Shimano etc.

And you have to be suspiscious about quality when the warranty is only 30 days regardless.

Although the items might be cheap, (below wholesale) if the quality is reliable, then the seller would have no issue puting up a warranty to at least the expected life of the product.

30 days just says the seller has no confidence in his own product !

As for LD reels below $100, don't touch them. The LD 9000 which sells by the truck load on ebay is the worst piece of garbage I have ever seen, and can be bought for as little as $6 is china.

A good after market Lever drag reel cost at least $150USD from the factory up to $240USD.

The precision to make an LD is very expensive and requires very precise machining (high manufcature costs)

The TLD is cheap for what they are because they've been making them for so long.

[spears]

Hey tuff you offer a good deal with warranty.
But if people never go to a forum they don’t know ..do they

[TuffTackle]

Hi spears,
We do, but I'm not on here just for work, I am a fisho as well, and have alot of experience with aftermarket fishing tackle, so i mostly cruise the forums for info to help me catch more fish as well as build a better business and increase my knowledge, if I can offer some advice that helps fellow fisho's with what i know best I will.

It's a shame alot of people get sucked in by the 'hype' and catchy slogans and alot of BS on ebay after market gear, it makes my job that little bit harder.

For example someone registered them selves on ebay as REXHUNT123 or similar, and started selling used reels claiming they obviously belonged to rex hunt.
Rex hunt is very famous in China as a fishing GURU and sells alot of his own brand to the Asians, I somehow don't think he's got an interest to sell his old reels on ebay.

We've been talking alot about ebay lately and other options, I refuse to wholesale and not get paid outside Melbourne or have the product bast#rdised by a competitor's distributor.
So the logical option is to get some videos happening on the net, and consider fishing , boating and camping shows, in each state, and try to detract from the ebay reputation of cheap and nasty.

Simon

[reidy]

Or fishos looking for basic cheap boat hacks eg the gear you loan to mates or the missus knowing they are going to drop,bang,dip,throw etc.
No care gear,dent scratch rash.Only a bit of grease and de-salt at the end of the day.
Cheers
Reidy

[scuttlebutt]

For example someone registered them selves on ebay as REXHUNT123 or similar, and started selling used reels claiming they obviously belonged to rex hunt.
Rex hunt is very famous in China as a fishing GURU and sells alot of his own brand to the Asians, I somehow don't think he's got an interest to sell his old reels on ebay.

Simon

Well you'd be wrong. I e-mailed a query to Rex Hunt's website and they confirmed that he is registered on E-bay as RexHunt1234 and has been selling reels from his personal collection (which numbers in the thousands). I wouldn't pay more for a reel just because it is one of the thousands that has been owned by Rex, but this is one legitimate seller.

cheers,

steve

[pommy]

BEWARE CHOANLAODA OUTBOARDS!!!!!

Don't buy one of these, particularly you kayak or micro tinny guys. The 2-3Hp motors are, in my experience, no bloody good.

Returned mine to Sydney, after 2 outings. Cost me a small fortune in postage, although the company did refund the money.

Regards, Rob.
Ballina.

[the gecko]

Nothing wrong with CrimeBay, you just have to be careful and do some research. I started with cheap reels from ebay before I got serious about better gear.

The Forsyth SY6000 baitrunner cost me $28 with postage, and has stood up well to decent GTs and Tailor in the Southport seaway. The drag is excellent for a cheapie. Ive still got a couple as backups for mates to use, even tho I now use the Shimano Baitrunner. the Tassie seller imports some reasonable chinese gear, and hes been on ebay for a few years now with good feedback.

Spend some time googling the brands before you buy, and you might find a bargain. I saw another members post here today, where he is using chinese ebay reels to catch jew regularly.

Ive bought low end brand names in tackle stores that werent as good as some ebay reels. Abu Cardinal and Penn Captiva both last only a few weeks.

Andrew

[flairj]

As said before, do your homework and be prepared to wait for the right thing to come along.

I have scored some excellent deals on the Bay, but they weren't without a bit of risk I must say. My best score were 2 Team Daiwa Zillion HLA that were new but had no box and had been handled at some kind of tackle show. Never spooled with line and no marks or scratches. I got them both for AU$440 to my door. They were perfect and I wish I had bought all four he was selling as one TD-Z will retail for that here.

Since the dollar shat itself, I find you are better of going to your local tackle store these days

Josh

[flatzie]

As and keen fisho and Ebay Powerseller, its interesting reading these comments. I dont sell fishing gear but despite all the jargon, Ebay is a huge market place where the discerning well researched buyer can get a good deal, as is mentioned above. If people actually took the time to learn how to use it properly they would never get ripped off by any scammer on Ebay. A sellers feedback is a huge bonus for buyers, Eg you can have hundreds or thousands of people telling you the seller is dinky di.

People catch themselves trying to get quality for a super cheap price, then whinge when its crap. You can do that at most tackle stores as well they all have their cheaper ranges of goods that no serious fisho would touch.
I have bought almost all my Daiwa and Shimano reels from Ebay in USA and they have been terrific, at way cheaper prices. I usually buy three of the one I want, sell on the other two and the profit from those two gives me my reel pretty much free!
Cheers
Flatzie

[sandlizard]

For the best deals you should go to the source. Japan. I did alot of research and found that there were some real bargains on the japanese online auctions. Like their cars the japs use a reel for a season and have to have the latest one next season. I picked up a team daiwa, 8 bearing, megaforce brake system, low profile baitcaster for 120 bucks. It was barely used and from the pics it looks mint ... get some.

[hooknose]

Agree with Flatzie, I have bought all my Stella's from e-bay USA, top prices and absolutely no whinges from me. Steer clear of cheap and nasty ' too good to be true' no name brands and you should be right !!!

[yalta]

you think some of the gear is bodgey
check out some of the postage costs some of these guys charge.
some of the postage is worth more than the gear you are buying.
you might think you got a great deal on a lure for a buck then you
run around telling everyone how great it is that you got it for a buck.
but you dont mention it just cost you $17.00 to get the bloody thing posted to you.now bloke's like kamakazie and the like only pay a buck for the lure to start
with so he is making his money on postage.and some people may pay a lot for his lures and he's makes even more money out of you.they are just cheap sh#t
from china made by people who have or never will see the ocean. let along no
what they are making so i would be doing my research and buy good gear not this cheap sh#t they are selling.so therefore stick to the people selling the good gear they are there you just have to look a bit harder...try looking at their
feedback to start with. then search the internet for their product ..

[yalta]

forgot to mention yes i make lure's and yes i am getting sick of these blokes on
ebay selling this cheap junk.i have seen some of them and the only thin pretty
about them is they are pretty cheap rubbish. yes i do sell on that site also but
at the price they are worth.and at the correct postage price. there is also other ausfishers trying to make a few also ..
but how are we going to compete with this rubbish from china.

[wilcara]

For me, feebay used to be good, it was like the open air market that I could never get to without the internet: full of second hand and hardly used bargains.... gradually it became flooded with absolute cheap asian garbage, so much so that you are damend lucky to find anything else. Feebay won't do anything about it because these marketeers are the ones selling thousands of items and paying the fees that feebay loves.

All I will do now on feebay is to search on a brand name that I know, or take the "used" filter that limits me to second hand stuff. That will limit the number of items from say 2000 down to maybe 6.

Sorry you got ripped off, I think we all have been. I am not going to say it is your own fault and you should have bought local etc.

I would really like to meet some of these dudes though.

[yalta]

yep used to be good.
i might start selling my gear for the price of the postage
and charge postage for what i want for my gear. ebay does not charge you fee's for the postage cost's.this seem's to be what most of them are doing..

[BarraBandit]

Not being mean, just wondering why we are bring back an old thread? (No need to answer that question!)

I agree with some things said, and some that in my opinion are wrong... but thats whats great about ausfish, we can (most of the time) have opinions.

Lets just say, I wouldent have alot of the fishing gear I have now, at the prices I found them for without ebay, not to mention the many friends I have made and the contacts I now have.




Bandit.

[llourd]

i just tried to buy something from this mob, premium fishing auctions (i hadnt read this thread prior) and they stuffed me on the deal. i used their 'make an offer' button and we negotiated, then when i made the commitment to buy they wouldnt honour the deal. i tried to reason with them and they refused to budge, blamed everything on their automated systems and then put an unpaid item strike on my ebay account!! ebay read all the exchanges and promptly removed it, but you gotta watch out for these guys...

[finga]

No one has mentioned the buyer protection thingo e-bay has if you purchase with paypal.
We've used it to great effect. ie got out money back including postage.

[Dave_H]

No one has mentioned the buyer protection thingo e-bay has if you purchase with paypal.
We've used it to great effect. ie got out money back including postage.

I'll mention it.... About christmas time two years ago I bought a Penn 920 baitcaster (originals of these in good nick are getting very expensive and are as rare as rocking horse exhaust) over in the U.Sof A on eBay. Seller tried to stitch one on by sending an obviously completely different (in much worse condition than the one he claimed was in his description - supposedly corrosion free, everything working smoothly etc) reel that had oodles more corrosion and in fact the levelwind didn't work etc. I originally took this up with the seller and he claimed that as he hadn't got the dollars he expected for the sale he sent me another reel comensurate with the winning bid amount....:angryfire:

The big clincher were the photos that formed part of the description as they pointed to it being a late model version with the stainless reel stand etc. The one that showed-up in the post was an early model with a different stand. The seller then re-listed the original reel which pointed to the obvious scam. I lodged a complaint case outlining what happened with reference to the photos etc and in no time the $$ were refunded to me (including postage) and paypal debitted the guys account for my return postage of the item back to the original seller, leaving him out of pocket for his efforts.

Buyer protection worked OK in my instance.

[nigelr]

Still some good bargains to be had, but you do have to be careful and experience is at a premium. 100% feedback score or very very close to it, with a lot of 'items sold'.......being able to read between the lines of less than perfect descriptions, dodgy pics etc, good feedback comments and yes, PayPal is a very good thing.
In saying this, I think things have deteriorated for sellers, feebay is an apt description; great for the buyer tho' IMHO.
Pert near a flippin' genius the lad who got both PayPal and Facebook together, certainly have a bob or two by now lol!
Cheers.

[thylacene]

I did the eBay thing when we were first setting up, and scored a set of four secondhand Penn overheads off the board here.

The eBay reels varied in quality, but none came close to the Penn's.

We have had the opportunity to hook up to a few decent sized critters, and on one occasion the eBay reel being used decided to let go and the spinning handle almost broke my thumb. Lost the fish, got the shits and called into the tackle shop on the way home and bought a brace of Shimano Tekotas. Probably heavier than we really need, but in part due to my impatience as the 700's were the only size in stock.

That said, another 18 mths down the track, we still use the Penn's occasionally, and all of the eBay reels clagged out. Yes they got doused in salt water, but so did the Shimanos.

Using the cheap reels off eBay is OK if you are seeing if you like fishing, but I woudl recommend that you dismantle and grease properly and expect not to get a smooth an action as Shimano, Daiwa or event eh cheapie Penn's that Kmart sell.

The problem with lessons like this is you only learn them from experience.

As to the shysters, they are everywhere, ebay is just a convenient channel for them to operate.

Read up on how to use eBay effectively and you will be much better off.

Cheers


Thy

[odes20]

forgot to mention yes i make lure's and yes i am getting sick of these blokes on
ebay selling this cheap junk.i have seen some of them and the only thin pretty
about them is they are pretty cheap rubbish. yes i do sell on that site also but
at the price they are worth.and at the correct postage price. there is also other ausfishers trying to make a few also ..
but how are we going to compete with this rubbish from china.

Yalta whining wont change anything as the world is awash with cheap junk and our cities are full of wharehouses selling all kinds of cheap crap only because people buy it!

If you cant compete just find a better way to make money. If youre making lures to sell becuase you like doing it and your not able to get a good return in the market, then just get over the romance and find another way to sell your gear or make money thru another method.
Overall, I find that anyone complaining about the way the web is used whether Fleabay or whatever, is fighting a loosing battle. The internet and online shopping is hear to stay and more and more people are using this option for purchase.
If they buy rubbish, then rubbish they have bought. Old saying, "the poor always buy twice" is never more true than its association with this issue.

It wont change , just get smarter. Personally I love using fleabay, as I have made thousands on it and gotten myself the most amazing deals as well. Just have to use your brain and make wise decisions.

In reference to Pelagic Extreme reels, if you do your research you will find a few they sell are top value made by OMOTO. But dont rely on me just read read read
Cheers
John

[dayoo]

I have purchased a number of rods and reels of Premium Fishing Auctions but only Omoto reels and the pelagic offshore rods.

The Omoto reels are good value and if looked after will last many years.

The Pelagic rods were unbreakable but the runners were weak and only lasted 12 months. Replacing the runners yourself with Fuji runners is not expensive and as the rods were less than $30 delivered they are a bargain.
I see that the rods now come with Fuji runners so there must have been a few complaints.

Cheers
Barry

[Platitudinus]

Premium fishing auctions:
For those that want to see the products before you buy these guys have a public showroom. Now, not everyone lives nearby, but the fact that you can go and see it before you buy it means that to many it is their 'local fishing shop'.
Many ebay sellers work from home address and just import/export from their garage.

Anyway, I have bought many products from these guys and you basically get what you pay for.

Plato
Sales Support

If you have any sales related enquiries please don’t hesitate to contact us on
+61-3-9763 7922.
Customer Service Hours are Monday to Friday 9.30am to 5.30pm (Melbourne time).
Our direct to public showroom is located at 10 Kingsley Close, Rowville, Victoria 3178.

[2BNVS1]

i have recently purchased 3 reels and 2 rods + braid etc from Premium Fishing Auctions. All the Pelagic brand as i have one from years ago that has been through it all and still going strong and has landed me many many fish so i didnt see the point in spending $200+ on reels etc. I had a top line reel once that shat itself so quickly. my little reels are all 10 s/s ball bearing and i look after them.

Theyre deliverey to the gold coast took 2 days...


In regards to lures, my bro inlaw imports lures/plastics/spinnerbaits from china, and these cost an absolute fraction of the price of well know brands and we have caught as many if not more fish on those ones. i think the distributors of the big brand stuff need a reality check into their mark ups. There are a few things that i agree u get what u pay for, im mainly just speaking from things i HAVE USED not in general. i dont comprehend spending $150+ reel $150+ rod $25+ lures for myself when for 1/2 that my 3 reels, 2 rods, braid and some lures will catch me fish. im not expert on fishing, i try to go twice a week. but i just enjoy being out there catchin stuff.


when i went to fiji we were on a sailing boat trolling. they had 2 hhighly expensive game rods, all the tricks etc etc. and 1 rope with a block of wood and a feathered lure he made. we got a spanyiard on the rope. i laughed and the fijian said, we have never caught a thing on the game rods, always on the rope. crazy stuff

Ben...

[2BNVS1]

funny as im typing this another fishing rod i bought from them 2 days ago just got delivered :-)

[yalta]

forgot to mention yes i make lure's and yes i am getting sick of these blokes on
ebay selling this cheap junk.i have seen some of them and the only thin pretty
about them is they are pretty cheap rubbish. yes i do sell on that site also but
at the price they are worth.and at the correct postage price. there is also other ausfishers trying to make a few also ..
but how are we going to compete with this rubbish from china.

Yalta whining wont change anything as the world is awash with cheap junk and our cities are full of wharehouses selling all kinds of cheap crap only because people buy it!

If you cant compete just find a better way to make money. If youre making lures to sell becuase you like doing it and your not able to get a good return in the market, then just get over the romance and find another way to sell your gear or make money thru another method.
Overall, I find that anyone complaining about the way the web is used whether Fleabay or whatever, is fighting a loosing battle. The internet and online shopping is hear to stay and more and more people are using this option for purchase.
If they buy rubbish, then rubbish they have bought. Old saying, "the poor always buy twice" is never more true than its association with this issue.

It wont change , just get smarter. Personally I love using fleabay, as I have made thousands on it and gotten myself the most amazing deals as well. Just have to use your brain and make wise decisions.

In reference to Pelagic Extreme reels, if you do your research you will find a few they sell are top value made by OMOTO. But dont rely on me just read read read
Cheers
John

john thanks for your reply to a post that is near on two years old..
and i'am not here to give them a plug.
since my bussiness has been operating for 30yrs sending them all around the world i think i may have a good bussiness plan in place and yes you could say i like making them.at least i can honestly sit here and say that i made that lure and put our brand onto it and caught that fish for them.i cannot force people to buy them.i do not throw them dowm peoples throats saying if you use a full spread of my lures you to will catch fish and so on.i'am not running a get rich quick scheme i sell them for not much more than it cost me to make them. that's why people buy them and those same people come back to me.the real arguement with this thread is that the consumer is getting pretty sick of being ripped off.next time your checking out new high end gear have a look to see where it is made.