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bundylundy
28-11-2008, 01:09 AM
I am looking for help with what type of guides to use to replace the crap guides that come on my off the rack loomis. The rod is a Loomis SW844 12 to 30lb. 7ft. spin rod. I have already relaced the tip and the bottom guides due to the wire part of the guide breaking and the ceramic ring falling out. Now a third one is broken so to me my only option is to replace them all before they cost me a good fish. The blank is an excellent blank, only the guides are crap. Any assistance would be appreciated.

rhycebullimore
28-11-2008, 05:39 AM
hey mate fuji alconites represent the best value for money but if your super keen then have a look at the fuji Sic guide (silicon Carbide) with titanium frames, these are alot better performance and a lot higer price, if your super super keen look at the Gold Cermet guides which have a gold ceramic ring that features the hardness of ceramic and the durability of titanium, i have these on a smith and love them. best of luck

Mark Fisher
28-11-2008, 03:11 PM
Bundylundy

I built up an MB844 in the GL3 a little while back as a heavier style overhead rod which I use for snapper in SA. I used Fuji MNSG's in a spiral wrap and haven't lost one (touch wood). The Fuji guides, IMHO, are still the benchmark for the others to follow. The Fuji alconites would also suit your rod and are a little cheaper.


Regards
Mark

finga
28-11-2008, 03:52 PM
I built up an MB844 in the GL3 a little while back as a heavier style overhead rod which I use for snapper in SA. I used Fuji MNSG's in a spiral wrap and haven't lost one (touch wood).
Regards
Mark

I did a spiral for myself but have not been able to test yet. It's a PURC60MH from GCCR.
The spirals feel brilliant to me and others who have felt it under load like the concept so...
How do your other customers like the spiral Mark?
Sorry but I used the Alps316 Saltwater guides on it :-/

Mark Fisher
29-11-2008, 04:52 AM
Finga,

Mate once I explain the concept of the spiral and show one of my own rods under load, most people can see the sense in it and go with the spiral. There are a few hard heads out there who just refuse to accept the physics of the spiral. It takes a while for us Aussies to accept anything new and outside the ordinary. I don't know if the spiral will ever take off in a big way but I'm convinced they are a better design.

Nothing wrong with those ALPS guides either, just my personal preferrence for the Fuji.

Regards
Mark

bundylundy
04-12-2008, 10:55 AM
Just checking out the guide size to order my new guides and found 2 others guides with broken frames. Now totally peeved. Probably go with Fuji SVSG's. Looking at approx $80 for the 6 guides excluding the tip. Now it comes down to wether I do it myself or get someone to do it for me.

Jeff.

spears
04-12-2008, 11:03 AM
Finga,

Mate once I explain the concept of the spiral and show one of my own rods under load, most people can see the sense in it and go with the spiral. There are a few hard heads out there who just refuse to accept the physics of the spiral. It takes a while for us Aussies to accept anything new and outside the ordinary. I don't know if the spiral will ever take off in a big way but I'm convinced they are a better design.

Nothing wrong with those ALPS guides either, just my personal preferrence for the Fuji.

Regards
Mark
Diawa put out the interline rods but I don’t see any one talking about them.
Looks like a good idea.I can’t see a rush on them even though they have been out for some time.
Spiral wrap may not take of either.
http://www.daiwa.com/Rod/interline.aspx
http://www.daiwa.com/Rod/detail.aspx?ID=272

Mark Fisher
05-12-2008, 09:14 AM
Spears,

Spiral wraps have been around for many, many years. They are much bigger in the USA than here is Australia. I know Loomis and Shimano actually put some out about 10 years ago. It is hard to convince anyone to change from what they have seen all their life to something that looks "wrong". There are a few builders out there who are giving the spirals a go. All I can try and do is give an honest opinion to the customer. In the end, they are the ones paying out for the rod so I build them what they want (I just spend some more time convincing them, LOL).


Regards
Mark