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mookyandlumpy
17-11-2008, 06:16 PM
hello all,
i am trying oragizing a little fishing trip/catch and release comp for my mates and myself around the pin area , i am little stuck as we all like to fish for different things so im am thinking of doing a points system to get a winner ,
for example
bream 23cm-30cm 1 point
bream 31cm-40cm 2 points
bream 41cm + , 3 points

flathead 40cm- 50 cm 2 points
flathead 51cm- 60 cm 4 points
flathead 61cm- 70cm 6 points

tailor 30cm - 40cm 2 points
tailor 41cm - 50cm 3 points
tailor 51cm + , 4 points

whitting 23cm -30cm 1 point
whitting 31cm - 40cm 3 points
whitting 41+ 5 points


but im unsure of what value to give each fish and to what size ,
so if you have a spare 5 mins can you please give me any input ,


cheers

mooky


(p.s sorry if this is in the wrong section)

tunaticer
17-11-2008, 06:41 PM
Are you going to live measure every fish at a weigh in or use photo with date time on a bragmat at the time of capture?

My mates and I used to have our own mini comps yrs ago and scored by similar methods to your system. Only thing we found was you need three brackets for each species with 1, 2 and 3 points respectively in relation to sizes. Otherwise you will fond someone will score 3 x 65cm flathead and outscore someone with 3 x 55cm tailor dramatically. Do not weight the appeal of the species in the score results works best.

Jack.

mookyandlumpy
17-11-2008, 09:45 PM
Are you going to live measure every fish at a weigh in or use photo with date time on a bragmat at the time of capture?



we were goin to use photos of the fish on a brag mat,


Do not weight the appeal of the species in the score results works best
yeah this is true


cheers for the advice



mooky

For Steve
18-11-2008, 07:02 PM
G'day mooky,

Some ideas for you to consider:
How about flathead over 70cm?
How about mangrove jack, trevally and jewies?

Your scoring system is looking very reasonable to me.

Hope your fun comp is a great success.

Regards
Brad

struktcha_man
18-11-2008, 07:11 PM
looks abour right so far
any flattie over sixty is a very good catch, 50 -60 not bad .. ect
whiting yeah about right
Taylor , who cares, yeah good.

maybe a bream over 40 is worth an extra point or two compared to what you got there.

maybe just add some species

Dan

Lucky_Phill
18-11-2008, 08:30 PM
here is a little something I worked on recently 8-) :-/ ;D




Estuary is :-


Flathead, Whiting, Bream and Jack, Tailor, Jew, squire





Formula for fish:_




length of fish over the minimum size limit, then divided into the legal length.


30cm whiting is 23 :- 7 = 3.285


50cm trout is 38 :- 12 = 3.166
100cm Mackerel is 75 :- 25 = 3
50cm Trevally is 35 :- 15= 2.333


therefore the Trevally is the best fish, due to the lowest number.


But, a 38cm whiting is 1.533, that being a low scoring fish, winner !



Lowest score wins.................. you could also divide that score by the number of fish caught to get overall low average score....... lowest score wins.........





fish to be weighed in at 2 times the legal length. ie:- a 150cm Mackerel would amount to the score of 1. That is the best possible score.


a 46cm whiting is best
a 76cm Trout is best.
a 70cm Trevally is best.


but flathead are 40 -70cms, so a re-calculation is required. add 33% to length over legal.


60cm flathead is 40 :- ( 20 + 33% ) = 26.6 score is 1.503



Trevally will have a size minimum of 35cms.


These calculations were done as part of an offshore comp but also included estuary and pelagic species.


Cheers Phill
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Donny Boy
19-11-2008, 08:30 AM
Geez Phill,

That musta taken some working out !

Lucky_Phill
19-11-2008, 11:16 AM
Nah Donny, only took about 3 months, 14 days, 9 hours, 23 minutes and 44 seconds.... give or take !!!!! ;D ;D ;) 8-) 8-)

It was designed so everyone who caught a fish, no matter what species had a shot at the title !!!! It is a reward system for good size fish.

It works out that a 40 cm whiting could beat a 90 cm spanish mack or 50 cm squire etc etc.

But, the Flathead bit was tricky, but I am sure it's close enough. ::)

Phill
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ifishcq1
19-11-2008, 06:36 PM
Lucky Phil and M&L
Phil's idea would be one of the best levellers in a comp situation
I think some clubs would improve numbers if they worked on a system like that
similar to the the ansa points method
guys this takes out the guess work and no one can argue

cheers
SL

struktcha_man
19-11-2008, 08:27 PM
not bad Phil
very interseting, so your final score is based relative to the legal limit
but is this to compare across species?
surely a 45cm bream will beat a 44.9 cm bream every time.

just askin..im not up on this stuff

Dan

SWFISHER
20-11-2008, 12:22 PM
We In Our Club Weigh All Fish Excluding Catch And Release. For Every 125grams ( Be Sure It Is Of Legal Length First) You Get 1 Point. All You Need Is An Acurrate Set Of Scales. You Get To Weigh Your 2 Best Fish Of Each Species And You Get 1 Point For Each Fish After That. Catch And Release Is All About Length. Some People Choose To Do This Method Rather Than Weighing In. Add All Lenghts Together And There Is Your Catch And Release Champion. Mind You Back On The Weigh In Part Of Things We Have What You Call Is The Heaviest Species, This Means That You Actually Weigh Your Biggest Fish Of Each Species Prior To Like I Say The Best 2 Fish Of Each Species. Hope This Is Clear And Helps. Cheers Kevin

rob tranter
20-11-2008, 01:18 PM
5 Points per Legal Fish caught and released in a healthy state (if it doesn't swim away it's no points, that is if it is C&R)
Then 2 points per cm over the minimum legal length
e.g.
Legal Bream of 23cm = 5 points
Legal Bream of 30cm = 5+14=19 points

Legal Flatty of 40cm = 5 points
Legal Flatty of 47cm = 5+14=19 points

and so on and so on

Thats how we do it in our Fishing Club, and if you want to keep it you get the same points.

Good Luck

Rob T8-)